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Iluvacc
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myrtle
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 02/15/20 8:54 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
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Randy wrote: |
Stormeo wrote: |
Rejoice, Mother Jones! Your most ‘talented-est’ daughter has now left her d r e a d f u l circumstance under that horrible monster of a coach, Mr. James Get-Out-Of-My-Child’s-Wa[y]de, and, behold!, has joined the exact same team as... your second-most ‘talented-est’ daughter! Rejoice! Praise thee!
Samuelson’s mom wanted out of Chicago, Stevens wanted out of Dallas like it was long ago rumored, and Dallas almost got fair value (*probably not though!). |
What' going to happen when Kaela Davis' mom and Mother Jones get into it over who should be playing the most minutes???? Could be fireworks - stock up on popcorn. |
This type of content gets me almost as hyped for the season to start as the free agent frenzy |
Sits beside Luuuc. |
maybe we need a thread that just follows moms' tweets... |
There are no maybes about it. From the bits & pieces I've seen (not just WNBA, but also NBA and occasionally here down under as well), parents, siblings, partners & exes are all very capable of swerving out of their lanes and making spectacles of themselves. Sadly I just don't have the time or energy to keep track of it all. I find it draining enough just keeping tabs on Liz's Instagram.
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justintyme
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Posted: 02/16/20 1:08 am ::: |
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Dream are signing Stricklen.
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pilight
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Posted: 02/16/20 1:14 am ::: |
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Dream are signing Stricklen. |
I'm more convinced than ever that they're going to try for Tina Charles
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mavcarter #NATC
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Posted: 02/16/20 1:40 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
Dream are signing Stricklen. |
I'm more convinced than ever that they're going to try for Tina Charles |
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Or maybe said poster should quit being a nuisance when people don’t agree? |
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Stormeo
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tfan
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Posted: 02/16/20 1:54 am ::: |
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I don’t know the breakdown, but Samuelson was playing some amount of 4 for Chicago and having to defensively battle in the post for maybe the first time in her life. I didn’t see her playing any 2, so “future replacement for Allie Quigley” doesn’t seem right. Samuelson can hit from 3, but she does not have a 2 guard’s quickness and agility. It struck me last year that in a game Wade was playing Samuelson at 4 and Williams at 1, while they were a 3 and 4 in college (and Williams was a 4 as a rookie).
“Mother Jones” is what Samuelson and her sisters are supposed to call their mom, for those of you who were also confused by that reference.
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 02/16/20 2:01 am ::: |
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mavcarter wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
Dream are signing Stricklen. |
I'm more convinced than ever that they're going to try for Tina Charles |
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It looks to me like Atlanta is going make-over instead of rebuild
signing players like GloJo and Stricklen (or Tiff Mitchell) who are decent vets looks like a team that intends to try and compete
If the Dream could add Charles to Hayes and or C. Williams and the players above they might think they could get somewhere
and there are some other OK players out there they could sign for less than max like TY Young, Price, Rodgers, D-Rob to fill out the back-court
it might not be great but a good coach might feel like they could get the best out those parts and possibly make some noise
I understand you may disaree with the philosophy but I see what Pilight sees this off season Atl looks like it is making a choice to get better with established players rather than waiting for internal growth. They probably took swings at Diggins and Bonner as well.
and Stormeo I already got the trades figure out
Billings and #4 to NY for Charles
Hayes and Coffey to Conn for C. Williams
Atl
Montgomery/D-Rob
C. Williams/Rodgers or Prince/Cazorla
GloJo/Stricklen
Charles/Breland/Waiver wire
K. Brown/E. Will
That team can make the playoffs how far they get maybe the 2nd or 3rd round maybe not
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Richyyy
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Posted: 02/16/20 2:34 am ::: |
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Stormeo wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
Dream are signing Stricklen. |
And what would her motivation be for leaving a contender for a lottery team?? Unless the Dream are offering her the $185k max and the Sun offered her, like, half of that, expecting her to take it. |
Conn already gave 215k to her replacement, and have to worry about both Thomases becoming free agents next year. Once the Bonner deal was done she was always moving on if she wanted to get remotely paid. |
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Stormeo
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mavcarter #NATC
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Posted: 02/16/20 3:10 am ::: |
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signing players like GloJo and Stricklen (or Tiff Mitchell) who are decent vets looks like a team that intends to try and compete |
They have to go after vets that no one wants for the price they’re going to pay. Somebodies got to play for the Dream, and with three players already moving on it seems like almost everyone is for sale. Good thing about the Johnson deal is that it’s only for one year. I’m wondering what Stricklen signed for.
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it might not be great but a good coach might feel like they could get the best out those parts and possibly make some noise |
Agreed, that should be the objective of every coach.
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Atl
Montgomery/D-Rob
C. Williams/Rodgers or Prince/Cazorla
GloJo/Stricklen
Charles/Breland/Waiver wire
K. Brown/E. Will
That team can make the playoffs how far they get maybe the 2nd or 3rd round maybe not |
Realistically, what playoff team is that roster replacing?
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pilight
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Posted: 02/16/20 8:58 am ::: |
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The Dream aren't going anywhere with Montgomery at PG
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Realistically, what playoff team is that roster replacing? |
The Lynx, an 18-16 that's lost both back court starters and replaced them with nothing
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toad455
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Posted: 02/16/20 9:22 am ::: |
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The Dream aren't going anywhere with Montgomery at PG
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Realistically, what playoff team is that roster replacing? |
The Lynx, an 18-16 that's lost both back court starters and replaced them with nothing |
Agreed. Lynx are looking like a lotto team unless they start signing players.
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Shades
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Posted: 02/16/20 12:35 pm ::: |
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The Dream aren't going anywhere with Montgomery at PG
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Realistically, what playoff team is that roster replacing? |
The Lynx, an 18-16 that's lost both back court starters and replaced them with nothing |
Spooner’s dreams aren’t reality, and the reality is the Lynx are in a lot better shape than the Dream.
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justintyme
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Posted: 02/16/20 1:07 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
The Dream aren't going anywhere with Montgomery at PG
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Realistically, what playoff team is that roster replacing? |
The Lynx, an 18-16 that's lost both back court starters and replaced them with nothing |
Spooner’s dreams aren’t reality, and the reality is the Lynx are in a lot better shape than the Dream. |
As long as all the over-seas players come back (and KCK is healthy), I do agree they aren't in dire straits.
I wish they would do something about that PG hole, as I really don't like trusting rookie PGs (which is what Lexie more-or-less would be if thrust into that role, or else the draftee). But with normal progression of their young players like Phee, Brown, and Shep, and having Zandalasini back and healthy, they aren't exactly imploding.
My frustration with the team was more along the lines of them being a few big moves away from challenging for a title again, rather than them having to make moves to not suck.
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 02/16/20 6:41 pm ::: |
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The Winners and Losers of the First Week of WNBA Free Agency
Angel McCoughtry and Skylar Diggins-Smith are on the move, the Sparks are trying to regain their form, and the Fever … well, who knows? Here’s a roundup of all the action from a wild week in the WNBA. |
Article at The Ringer
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toad455
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Posted: 02/17/20 9:12 am ::: |
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UPDATE
Remaining list.
CORE PLAYERS
Tina Charles (NYL)
RESERVED PLAYERS
Lindsay Allen (LVA)
Bridget Carleton (MIN)
Alaina Coates (ATL)
Anna Cruz (MIN)
Temi Fagbenle (MIN)
Reshanda Gray (NYL)
Marine Johannes (NYL)
Sonja Petrovic (PHX)
Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe (NYL)
Angel Robinson (PHX)
Marianna Tolo (LAS)
Yvonne Turner (PHX)
Marta Xargay (PHX)
Cecilia Zandalasini (MIN)
RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rachel Banham (CON)
Liz Cambage (LVA)
Jamierra Faulkner (CHI) - not playing in 2020
Chelsea Gray (LAS)
Courtney Williams (CON)
UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kayla Alexander
Seimone Augustus
Alex Bentley
Sue Bird
Essence Carson
Ana Dabovic
Blake Dietrick
Brooke McCarty-Williams
Emma Meesseman
Kim Mestdagh
Epiphanny Prince
Sugar Rodgers
Carolyn Swords
Tamera Young
Shavonte Zellous
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 02/18/20 9:30 am ::: |
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Richyyyyyyyy's snark is dialed-down to 1/10 (booooo!) but the info is still there:
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When WNBA Free Agency Went Wild - Part One
Free agency in the WNBA started slightly late this year due to extended negotiations over the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, but it’s already the most dramatic period of player movement the league has ever seen. The new CBA led to a spike in the team salary cap of over 30%, which meant teams had money burning holes in their pockets. #WNBATwitter has been buzzing as players have been signed, traded, and generally criss-crossed the WNBA landscape all week. What does it all mean for the W in 2020? We take a look at all the biggest moves below (and don’t worry, we’ll cover the dealings of every other team in Part 2, later this week).
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https://herhoopstats.substack.com/p/when-wnba-free-agency-went-wild
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Richyyy
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 02/18/20 10:03 am ::: |
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It does sound better when you write it
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WfanFrJmp
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Posted: 02/18/20 2:41 pm ::: |
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Luuuc wrote: |
It does sound better when you write it |
Indeed, great articles! Thank y'all so much for sharing them!
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 02/18/20 3:47 pm ::: |
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[quote="toad455"]UPDATE
Remaining list.
CORE PLAYERS
Tina Charles (NYL)
RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Liz Cambage (LVA)
Chelsea Gray (LAS)
Courtney Williams (CON)
So What is going on here?
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 02/18/20 3:50 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
UPDATE
Remaining list.
RESERVED PLAYERS
Lindsay Allen (LVA)
Bridget Carleton (MIN)
Alaina Coates (ATL)
Temi Fagbenle (MIN)
Reshanda Gray (NYL)
Marine Johannes (NYL)
Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe (NYL)
Marianna Tolo (LAS)
Marta Xargay (PHX)
Cecilia Zandalasini (MIN)
RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rachel Banham (CON)
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UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kayla Alexander
Alex Bentley
Essence Carson
Blake Dietrick
Brooke McCarty-Williams
Epiphanny Prince
Sugar Rodgers
Carolyn Swords
Tamera Young
Shavonte Zellous |
And where (if anywhere) do these players land?
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Shades
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Posted: 02/18/20 4:02 pm ::: |
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#14 for Johannes, Spooner? Just think of nice choices that will be available at that pick. You could probably list them off right now.
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