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PostPosted: 11/13/19 9:42 pm    ::: EuroBasket 2021 Reply Reply with quote

Time for a thread with qualification on Thursday.

I put all of the videos for the first day of games on one page:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2019/11/watch-1st-day-of-eurobasket-2021-qualifiers-here/
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PostPosted: 11/15/19 12:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

One day in and we already have interesting results:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2019/11/eurobasket-2021-qualifiers-day-1-november-14th/
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PostPosted: 11/15/19 4:42 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

awhom111 wrote:
One day in and we already have interesting results:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2019/11/eurobasket-2021-qualifiers-day-1-november-14th/


Yeahhh go Holland!



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PostPosted: 11/15/19 12:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So why is Yvonne Turner on the Hungarian National Team instead of Vandersloot and/or Quigley? Did they get kicked off the team because their marriage is illegal in Hungary?



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PostPosted: 11/15/19 12:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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So why is Yvonne Turner on the Hungarian National Team instead of Vandersloot and/or Quigley? Did they get kicked off the team because their marriage is illegal in Hungary?

They were naturalising players repeatedly for a while. Cyesha Goree was in there somewhere as well. I figured they had some kind of deal with each of them, which was the passport in return for a fairly limited run of actually having to show up to play.

Both Jonquel Jones (Bosnia) and Satou Sabally (Germany) are now officially officially tied to their European countries, by the way. Ashley Walker is also apparently Romanian, which is either new or I'd forgotten about. Every round of these games I find myself checking the boxscores primarily to see if any random American-sounding names jump out, rather than to see who won.



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PostPosted: 11/15/19 2:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
root_thing wrote:
So why is Yvonne Turner on the Hungarian National Team instead of Vandersloot and/or Quigley? Did they get kicked off the team because their marriage is illegal in Hungary?


They were naturalising players repeatedly for a while. Cyesha Goree was in there somewhere as well. I figured they had some kind of deal with each of them, which was the passport in return for a fairly limited run of actually having to show up to play.


It would be more interesting if VanderQuig were barred for being gay. That would qualify as political persecution and open up the possibility of applying for reinstatement as Americans. Of course, that assumes USA Basketball would want them which hasn't been the case in the past.



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PostPosted: 11/15/19 3:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Jonquel Jones with Bosnia is interesting. Guess she doesn't have any decent teammates back in the Bahamas.



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PostPosted: 11/15/19 3:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Jonquel Jones with Bosnia is interesting. Guess she doesn't have any decent teammates back in the Bahamas.

I remember asking Sancho Lyttle if she and Sophia Young had ever thought about getting together to build a meaningful St Vincent and the Grenadines team, and she basically laughed the idea off because it would've been the two of them and then nothing much else. The Bahamas are a lot bigger, but it probably would've been a pretty similar story for Jones.

The interesting thing with her, as we talked about on here ages ago when she was getting the passport, is that she very much played in international FIBA competition for the Bahamas. She was young, but it we're talking full senior competition. And FIBA let her switch anyway. As far as I know it's easily the most relaxed nationality switch they've allowed in the women's game.



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PostPosted: 11/15/19 8:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
root_thing wrote:
So why is Yvonne Turner on the Hungarian National Team instead of Vandersloot and/or Quigley? Did they get kicked off the team because their marriage is illegal in Hungary?

They were naturalising players repeatedly for a while. Cyesha Goree was in there somewhere as well. I figured they had some kind of deal with each of them, which was the passport in return for a fairly limited run of actually having to show up to play.

Both Jonquel Jones (Bosnia) and Satou Sabally (Germany) are now officially officially tied to their European countries, by the way. Ashley Walker is also apparently Romanian, which is either new or I'd forgotten about. Every round of these games I find myself checking the boxscores primarily to see if any random American-sounding names jump out, rather than to see who won.


I am sure that Satou could play for Gambia if she asked for it to happen. Walker's been Romanian for a while.

Assuming a full strength team, Vandersloot's skill set is probably the most duplicated among the other players. Based on reading stuff about her over the years, I am pretty sure that Vandersloot's camp was the one that initiated naturalization. She's probably going to double or triple her income over the course of a decade so it might work out in the long run over holding out for Team USA.

Hungary has been fielding Goree in 3x3 events and given how much they focus on that, I wonder if they will field three naturalized players if they qualify (no limit in that format). They could toss out a lineup of Medgyessy (no Vandersloot, but an exceptional passer), Turner, Quigley, and Goree.
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PostPosted: 11/16/19 9:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sunday's games in one place:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2019/11/watch-day-2-of-eurobasket-2021-qualifiers-here-sunday/
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PostPosted: 11/17/19 8:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Day 2:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2019/11/eurobasket-2021-qualifiers-game-2-november-17th/
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PostPosted: 11/17/19 9:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

What happened to DeWanna Bonner being Macedonian (and now presumably North Macedonian)? I don't remember if she ever even played one game for them, and they don't seem to be bothering to call her up for these qualifiers.



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PostPosted: 11/18/19 12:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A quick aside: Satou Sabally was born and raised in Berlin and has been playing for the German National Team since she was old enough. So, she’s never been on the radar.


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PostPosted: 11/18/19 1:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PickledGinger wrote:
A quick aside: Satou Sabally was born and raised in Berlin and has been playing for the German National Team since she was old enough. So, she’s never been on the radar.


I agree that Sabally has never been on the radar for USA Basketball, but according to ESPN, Satou was born in the US and after a few years in Gambia moved to Germany:

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American-born Satou Sabally moved to Gambia when she was 2, and Germany when she was 7. The daughter of a German mother and a Gambian father, it was a basketball scholarship at the University of Oregon that brought her back to the country of her birth.

https://www.espn.com/espnw/life-style/story/_/id/26357646/what-athletes-eat-oregon-basketball-player-satou-sabally-gambian-rice-dish


Oregon's school newspaper, The Daily Emerald, has her listed as being born in New York. So do Wikipedia and Eurobasket.com.

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Sabally was born in New York City but has played extensively for Team Germany in international play. She played in three different international competitions over recent years. Her standout performance came in the 2014 U16 European Championships, where she averaged 20.1 points and 11.1 rebounds a game.


https://www.dailyemerald.com/sports/oregon-completes-class-with-german-recruit-satou-sabally/article_3c203979-e702-5658-b306-368eb724e154.html

Her sister Nyara was born in Bandon, Oregon.



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PostPosted: 11/18/19 9:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Pfft...technicalities Wink


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PostPosted: 11/18/19 10:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just to be extra technical Wink, she's been playing for the German age-group teams for years, but as far as I could find the games this week were her debut with the senior German national team.



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