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PostPosted: 11/09/19 9:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Archive of the full game here (minus the opening four minutes), for anyone that wants it: https://www.facebook.com/Pac12Conference/videos/618598528964177/



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PostPosted: 11/09/19 10:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I hope Augustus doesn't plan to be on the Olympic team. It would be a waste of a roster spot. You add in Delle Donne, Charles, Stewart, Wilson, Griner, etc. and it's a different team. Does look post heavy, maybe Charles sits out and they keep Plum, Collier or Ogunbowale?

PG: Bird/Diggins-Smith
SG: Taurasi/Gray
SF: Delle Donne/DeShields
PF: Stewart/Charles/Wilson
C: Fowles/Griner/NOgwumike



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PostPosted: 11/09/19 10:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Anyone have the link to post game video?


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PostPosted: 11/09/19 10:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bird/CGray
Taurasi/Diggins/DeShields
Ogwumike/(Moore or McCoughtry)
Delle Donne/Stewart/Wilson
Griner/Fowles

Designated Eight


Availability concerns
Delle Donne
Moore
McCoughtry
Stewart

Alternates
Charles
Collier
AGray
Plum



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PostPosted: 11/09/19 10:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Jordin Canada's in the pool...


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PostPosted: 11/09/19 10:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Jordin Canada's in the pool...


I don’t think they’ll let her go into the deep end without a lifeguard on duty. Wink



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PostPosted: 11/09/19 11:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's probably a good reminder that they can't just throw any old team together and expect them to easily beat all comers.



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PostPosted: 11/09/19 11:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
It's probably a good reminder that they can't just throw any old team together and expect them to easily beat all comers.

I think they've probably got too many easy excuses for anyone to take it seriously as a warning. 4th game in 8 days, lots of players who are still playing their way into shape, several players missing from the full first-choice roster, limited preparation time, head coach not even there - there are too many ways to let themselves off.



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PostPosted: 11/10/19 12:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hey Richyyy, were you happy with what you saw of Winterburn? I was surprised that she, Giomi, and Chavez were out there for crucial minutes instead of Boley, Hebard, and Moore.



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PostPosted: 11/10/19 12:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Bird getting schooled by Ionescu.


PLEASE dear Gawd....let Birdy ('n Taurasi 'n Augustus) show some graciousness and bow out. They just ain't got it no mo'.

The New Order is before you: with names like Jonquel, Arike, Diamond, Kelsey, Kayla, Ariel, Natasha, Courtney (V. or W) even Chennedy, Sabrina, Satou and Ruthie to join a core of players named Elena, Britney, A'ja, Chelsea, Allisha, Odyssey and Skyler, THIS kind of changeover would guarantee USA its best team of the future.

Give the ol' girls a lovely tea set as a parting gift, with multitudinous thanks for their inspiring service.

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PostPosted: 11/10/19 12:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howee wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Bird getting schooled by Ionescu.


PLEASE dear Gawd....let Birdy ('n Taurasi 'n Augustus) show some graciousness and bow out. They just ain't got it no mo'.

The New Order is before you: with names like Jonquel, Arike, Diamond, Kelsey, Kayla, Ariel, Natasha, Courtney (V. or W) even Chennedy, Sabrina, Satou and Ruthie to join a core of players named Elena, Britney, A'ja, Chelsea, Allisha, Odyssey and Skyler, THIS kind of changeover would guarantee USA its best team of the future.

Give the ol' girls a lovely tea set as a parting gift, with multitudinous thanks for their inspiring service.

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A lot of others should, but I'm not sure if Jonquel or Satou will ever be on Team USA.


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PostPosted: 11/10/19 12:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
myrtle wrote:
It's probably a good reminder that they can't just throw any old team together and expect them to easily beat all comers.

I think they've probably got too many easy excuses for anyone to take it seriously as a warning. 4th game in 8 days, lots of players who are still playing their way into shape, several players missing from the full first-choice roster, limited preparation time, head coach not even there - there are too many ways to let themselves off.


the point is why would you put together a team where half the players are old and/or "playing their way into shape". Having one or two of those is ok, but having half the team that way is ridiculous.



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Howee wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Bird getting schooled by Ionescu.


PLEASE dear Gawd....let Birdy ('n Taurasi 'n Augustus) show some graciousness and bow out. They just ain't got it no mo'.

The New Order is before you: with names like Jonquel, Arike, Diamond, Kelsey, Kayla, Ariel, Natasha, Courtney (V. or W) even Chennedy, Sabrina, Satou and Ruthie to join a core of players named Elena, Britney, A'ja, Chelsea, Allisha, Odyssey and Skyler, THIS kind of changeover would guarantee USA its best team of the future.

Give the ol' girls a lovely tea set as a parting gift, with multitudinous thanks for their inspiring service.

NAXXXT! Cool


team usa read our posts here. the weren't even trying to show that at least they attempted to play. they put in more effort against their own male practice squads than this. this whole thing against college teams is a joke other than for publicity.

and yes, bird, taurasi, and augustus should give the spots to others.

after michael jordan appeared in the first dream, when usa basketball begged him to be in the next dream team. he firmly said "no, let someone else has a chance to play". this is what legend is. bird, taurasi, and augustus surely lack that.



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root_thing wrote:
Hey Richyyy, were you happy with what you saw of Winterburn? I was surprised that she, Giomi, and Chavez were out there for crucial minutes instead of Boley, Hebard, and Moore.

I thought it was fantastic to see Graves trust her to play crunch time in literally her first game in America, against the damn national team (and often guarding Diana Taurasi, for crying out loud). She didn't do a lot, but she looked reasonably comfortable and confident out there.

My only real fear with her going to such a strong and highly-ranked school was that she could end up glued to the bench and barely playing for four years, so it's good to see her get a chance right at the start. I'd love to see her actually be part of the genuine rotation, not just sopping up minutes in the many inevitable blowouts that Oregon will have.



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Team USA really screwed the pooch on this. This loss really de-legitimizes the WNBA (given that Team USA's an extension of the league here) as it relates to being the theoretical pinnacle of women's basketball - what some may call the highest concentration of talent in a league in the world. Doesn't matter that Oregon had clear homefield advantage; doesn't matter who played for Team USA or who didn't - no excuses. People are surely going to think less of the professionals now that they've seen them lose to "a bunch of kids". Terrible performance, terrible loss, and monstrously terrible optics. Not to be so gloom-and-doom, but this really feels like a worst-case scenario. Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: 11/10/19 5:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

well, so what about the 1999 team that lost to tennessee - that actually had cream of the crop players ?


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Stormeo wrote:
Team USA really screwed the pooch on this. This loss really de-legitimizes the WNBA (given that Team USA's an extension of the league here) as it relates to being the theoretical pinnacle of women's basketball - what some may call the highest concentration of talent in a league in the world. Doesn't matter that Oregon had clear homefield advantage; doesn't matter who played for Team USA or who didn't - no excuses. People are surely going to think less of the professionals now that they've seen them lose to "a bunch of kids". Terrible performance, terrible loss, and monstrously terrible optics. Not to be so gloom-and-doom, but this really feels like a worst-case scenario. Evil or Very Mad


Again, kudos to Oregon, but Team USA were missing Delle Donne, Stewart, Griner, Charles, Wilson, Moore, McCoughtry, Loyd, etc. This was essentially their "C" team.



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PostPosted: 11/10/19 9:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Stormeo wrote:
Team USA really screwed the pooch on this. This loss really de-legitimizes the WNBA (given that Team USA's an extension of the league here) as it relates to being the theoretical pinnacle of women's basketball - what some may call the highest concentration of talent in a league in the world. Doesn't matter that Oregon had clear homefield advantage; doesn't matter who played for Team USA or who didn't - no excuses. People are surely going to think less of the professionals now that they've seen them lose to "a bunch of kids". Terrible performance, terrible loss, and monstrously terrible optics. Not to be so gloom-and-doom, but this really feels like a worst-case scenario. Evil or Very Mad


Again, kudos to Oregon, but Team USA were missing Delle Donne, Stewart, Griner, Charles, Wilson, Moore, McCoughtry, Loyd, etc. This was essentially their "C" team.


It’s still a team of professionals losing to a team of college amateurs.


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SpaceJunkie wrote:
Howee wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Bird getting schooled by Ionescu.


PLEASE dear Gawd....let Birdy ('n Taurasi 'n Augustus) show some graciousness and bow out. They just ain't got it no mo'.

The New Order is before you: with names like Jonquel, Arike, Diamond, Kelsey, Kayla, Ariel, Natasha, Courtney (V. or W) even Chennedy, Sabrina, Satou and Ruthie to join a core of players named Elena, Britney, A'ja, Chelsea, Allisha, Odyssey and Skyler, THIS kind of changeover would guarantee USA its best team of the future.

Give the ol' girls a lovely tea set as a parting gift, with multitudinous thanks for their inspiring service.

NAXXXT! Cool


A lot of others should, but I'm not sure if Jonquel or Satou will ever be on Team USA.


True....one is Jamaican, one German, right? I'd think, though, that if offered the chance to play for USA, they'd prefer their medal odds with that option as compared to their native countries. However, it isn't always about *the medals*.... Cool

ps....anybody have a box score handy? I couldn't find one anywhere last night.



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Howee wrote:
PLEASE dear Gawd....let Birdy ('n Taurasi 'n Augustus) show some graciousness and bow out. They just ain't got it no mo'.
. . . .
ps....anybody have a box score handy? I couldn't find one anywhere last night.


The box score is on the USAB site as a PDF. Your "ain't got it no mo'" trio had 33 points on 11-21 shooting, with 17 assists and 3 turnovers.
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Howee wrote:
True....one is Jamaican, one German, right? I'd think, though, that if offered the chance to play for USA, they'd prefer their medal odds with that option as compared to their native countries. However, it isn't always about *the medals*.... Cool

ps....anybody have a box score handy? I couldn't find one anywhere last night.

Jonquel Jones was originally Bahamian, but was naturalised by Bosnia and Herzegovina a while back. Not sure she's actually played a game for them yet, but she's at least theoretically Bosnian. Sabally has played for Germany in 3x3 and at age-group levels. Not sure if she's played for the senior 5-on-5 team yet, but she's German.

Box score from last night: http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=279671



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Satou is also technically an American, having been born in New York. The current Administration is trying to find a way to revoke birthright citizenship, but since the Sabally family chose to live in Germany, Satou can hardly be accused of being an "anchor baby." Smile



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PostPosted: 11/10/19 11:33 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

She's reportedly about to leave Oregon for a little while to play for Germany in their upcoming qualifiers though, so she clearly intends to be German for basketball purposes. Could be good for her WNBA future though, as historically players with US ties are much more likely to show up consistently.



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