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CamrnCrz1974



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PostPosted: 11/06/19 3:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
ClayK wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Kara Lawson was a finance major. Kellie Harper was a math major. Both were on the dean's list all the way through. I don't think playing and traveling affected their studies one bit.

At one time something like 60% of the Lady Vol basketball team was on the dean's list, and it wasn't all "easy" majors by any means.


No question it can be done ...

But I've talked with more than a few scholarship athletes who were told they shouldn't or couldn't take certain classes (afternoon labs, for example) or should avoid certain majors.

It all depends, but the person controlling the one-year scholarships -- with transfer limitations on top of that -- definitely has the power in this situation.


It probably depends on the school, too. Some schools are just not all that academically oriented. They'd rather their athletes just played ball (UNC is a good example). Others are not that way at all. Stanford, for one.


As an aside, one of the biggest benefits for Duke female athletes is the ability to participate in the CAPE (College Athletic Pre-Medical Experience) program. It was (and I believe still is) America's only premedical mentoring program for female student-athletes. The goal is to engage them with mentors, role models, lectures, discussion groups, and clinical experiences so they do not become discouraged in a (largely) still male-dominated world of medicine.

CAPE has its origins in a mentoring relationship that began in 1999 between Georgia Schweitzer, then a sophomore Duke WBB player, and Henry Friedman, the James B. Powell Jr. Professor of neuro-oncology at Duke Medical Center.

There are usually approximately 50 female undergrad students enrolled in CAPE per year. The majority are athletes (including cheerleaders), but some are Baldwin Scholars whom CAPE admits to satisfy NCAA requirements that student-athletes not receive unique treatment.

To put this into perspective, students usually are not exposed to patients until their second or third year of medical school. Giving undergraduates the opportunity to interact with patients is one of CAPE's most valuable traits.

CAPE students are gradually introduced to brain tumor patients in the brain tumor clinic, first by sitting in as a physician takes medical histories, then by observing physical exams. Next, students assist with taking histories, and eventually do it on their own (something they say is a major milestone).

Students can enter the program beginning in the fall of their sophomore year, and they spend their first semester shadowing physicians, performing new-patient consultations, and observing craniotomies at the Tisch Brain Tumor Center. Other activities include mentoring dinners with female medical students and physicians, a yearly lecture by the dean of the medical school, and a monthly journal club, where CAPE students discuss articles related to medical ethics and the art of balancing a professional medical career and personal lives (including family).

A few of CAPE's notable basketball alumni include:
--- Georgia (Schweiter) Beasley
--- Alison Bales
--- Emily Waner
--- Elizabeth Williams

Links (articles from 2008/2009, the tenth anniversary of CAPE)
https://today.duke.edu/2009/08/jockdoc.html
https://alumni.duke.edu/magazine/articles/athletes-training-future-doctors


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PostPosted: 11/20/19 6:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

My very early thoughts/first impressions, as it pertains to the Pac-12 (added onto it to talk about all 12 teams):
    Oregon will win the NCAA title so long as Graves continues to have at least 2-3 quality bench players he can rely on throughout the whole season. Chavez, Giomi, Shelley, and Winterburn all look to be in that mix.
    Stanford though will go as far as their talented underclassmen will take them, which could also be the title if *incoming pun* Coach Tara VanDerveer plays her Cards right. Twisted Evil Seriously though, what does her in-conference rotation look like? She has a LOT of pieces to work with between now and then to figure it out.
    It looks to be another year of Oregon State winning a bunch of games, with a lot of them being closer contests than they should be, but ultimately falling one weekend short of a Final Four (as has been the case since their first one).
    Arizona looked great at Texas, as The Aari McDonald Show works great in big-game settings. This team though isn't a Top 4 Pac-12 team, until her other teammates become consistent within their respective roles (Barnes should figure those out soon if she hasn't already).
    Cal put up a good fight at UConn, and Charmin Smith has already shown she can recruit by producing a Top 10 recruiting class next year. She'll need her young guards to grow up sooner rather than later, but good signs all around for this program overall.
    USC could be the 12th place team this year. They have talent, but as of now they don't have experience as a unit or enough bodies, and I'm skeptical of Trakh's general ability to get his team to overachieve even a little (given his, umm... "trakh" record Twisted Evil Twisted Evil ). They didn't have a wealth of experience and bodies to begin with, either.
    Utah will emerge from their slow start and could finish about where they did last year conference-wise, while Colorado will (as per usual) emerge from their easy non-conference schedule generally unscathed before running into a brick wall of conference opponents.
    While UCLA and ASU are still question marks, they're pretty consistent these days at being top-half Pac-12 teams.
    WSU has become a question mark given their good start, which for them is a good thing. We might learn more about them once they play Baylor and South Carolina (and Indiana) consecutively at the end of the month.
    ...And I could talk for hours about how I feel about my Washington Huskies but I will spare anyone reading and just say, judging by the first three games (with one of them ending up a total sh!t show), l'm convinced even more that we'll only get 12-13 total wins. Sad




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PostPosted: 11/20/19 7:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

As weird as it sounds, Giomi looks like a big key for Oregon this year Shocked Their post depth just isn't great and so far she looks like she can contribute well off the bench.

And in general they can't afford injury to their big three. But that's true for most teams.



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PostPosted: 11/21/19 4:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
As weird as it sounds, Giomi looks like a big key for Oregon this year Shocked Their post depth just isn't great and so far she looks like she can contribute well off the bench.


Yeah, she's looked surprisingly good. It's early, but if she keeps this up, she looks competent enough to start the season after this one - if one Sedona Prince doesn't have anything to say about it!
Redshirting her first year really helped her out. Who knows how different things would be had one of Campisano and McGwire done that (in which one of them would've been in line to start their graduate year and not stuck behind the Hebard-Sabally duo all four years, and maybe Giomi would've been one of the odd ones out).


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PostPosted: 11/21/19 5:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
As weird as it sounds, Giomi looks like a big key for Oregon this year Shocked Their post depth just isn't great and so far she looks like she can contribute well off the bench.

And in general they can't afford injury to their big three. But that's true for most teams.


Nothing weird about that, to me..... Shocked Hebard certainly can't do it all at the 5, night in and night out, and there are there those times when the extra inches can help, too.



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