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PostPosted: 09/15/19 6:18 pm    ::: Chicago Sky 2020 Reply Reply with quote

Amazing run by CHI... So many questions going into this season, and they just about answered them all. Can they win it all with a team like this? Definitely. Idea

But next year, everybody will be better, so how should CHI get better to match them? Question



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 6:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Pray for healthy players. The Sky is not purple without Lavender.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 6:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sky keep their core and they'll be dangerous. I question whether Williams remains their back-up PG. She was thrown into that role when Faulkner got injured. They need to retain Ndour(is a 6th woman worth a max?). Curious who the Sky would want with their #8 pick?

PG: Vandersloot/Williams?/Faulkner?
SG: Quigley/Copper
SF: DeShields/Samuelson
PF: Lavender/Ndour
C: Dolson/Parker



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 6:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd seriously consider moving Quigley to the bench and starting Gabby or Copper. Quigley can't create offense and is a subpar defender. Asking Diamond to lead the team in scoring and guard the best sg/sf is too much.


Would Minnesota/Maya be interested in a trade:


Copper. Lavender & the #8 pk for Maya Moore and Fagbenie


G- Vandersloot
G- DeShields
C- Dolson
F- Ndour
F- Moore
6- Quigley
7- Parker
8- Gabby
9- Samuelson
10- Fagbenie


Maya can be the #1 option on offense. Diamond can be the primary wing defender and still put up 15-17 ppg




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PostPosted: 09/15/19 7:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
They need to retain Ndour(is a 6th woman worth a max?).


Yes.

Really isn’t even a question at this point.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 7:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Will Ndour be back next year? I don't follow Euro ball at all, but isn't Spain likely to be in the Olympics?



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:

Would Minnesota/Maya be interested in a trade:

Copper. Lavender & the #8 pk for Maya Moore and Fagbenie


Only if Maya retires. Otherwise that’s an insulting trade proposal.
If Maya is returning and game-ready next season, in my mind a trade of her only happens if it involves Ionescu or a prominent PG or SG as a part of the package.

But the fact that Maya isn’t interested in the Team USA Miami camp is concerning to me.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 7:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
Will Ndour be back next year? I don't follow Euro ball at all, but isn't Spain likely to be in the Olympics?

Certainly a strong possibility, although as we've seen before that doesn't necessarily mean she'll miss that much time. Lyttle played in lots of international tournaments for Spain without missing all that many WNBA games.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 7:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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But the fact that Maya isn’t interested in the Team USA Miami camp is concerning to me.


regardless of her mental state, she's likely totally out of shape.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 8:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:


But the fact that Maya isn’t interested in the Team USA Miami camp is concerning to me.


regardless of her mental state, she's likely totally out of shape.


I’m not sure about that, but I have no doubt she could get in game shape fairly quickly if she puts her mind to it.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 8:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
I'd seriously consider moving Quigley to the bench and starting Gabby or Copper. Quigley can't create offense and is a subpar defender. Asking Diamond to lead the team in scoring and guard the best sg/sf is too much.


Would Minnesota/Maya be interested in a trade:


Copper. Lavender & the #8 pk for Maya Moore and Fagbenie


G- Vandersloot
G- DeShields
C- Dolson
F- Ndour
F- Moore
6- Quigley
7- Parker
8- Gabby
9- Samuelson
10- Fagbenie


Maya can be the #1 option on offense. Diamond can be the primary wing defender and still put up 15-17 ppg

I'm for keeping the core together. There is no need to make any outlandish trades.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 8:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rock Hard wrote:

I'm for keeping the core together. There is no need to make any outlandish trades.


I'm also for keeping the core together. That's why I originally suggested moving Quigley to the bench and starting Copper or Gabby. I'm just worried that there's won't be enough cap space to sign Copper and Ndour after Chicago re-signs Dolson, Sloot and Quigley.


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PostPosted: 09/15/19 8:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:

I'm for keeping the core together. There is no need to make any outlandish trades.


I'm also for keeping the core together. That's why I originally suggested moving Quigley to the bench and starting Copper or Gabby. I'm just worried that there's won't be enough cap space to sign Copper and Ndour after Chicago re-signs Dolson, Sloot and Quigley.

Chicago can afford to sign Copper and N'dor. They should not resign Faulkner and tell Dolson to take a hometown discount because she is not worth a max salary.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 8:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dolson's hometown team is the Liberty



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 8:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Dolson's hometown team is the Liberty


Wink and we need a true center. Though I'm not high on Dolson myself, she's better than anything we have. Move Zahui B to back-up Charles at PF. Stokes covers Dolson.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 9:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dolson is definitely worth max, especially for the Sky’s system..



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 9:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Now that the Sky have finally tasted some success and have a good coach, I think it is more likely the players stick together. As for Dolson heading home to NY - maybe, but not everyone wants to live close to home. So do and some don't.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 9:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
Now that the Sky have finally tasted some success and have a good coach, I think it is more likely the players stick together. As for Dolson heading home to NY - maybe, but not everyone wants to live close to home. So do and some don't.


If Dolson goes to NY, Lavender starts at center & Ndour at PF. Maybe the Sky draft a post then at #8?



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 9:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mavcarter wrote:
Dolson is definitely worth max, especially for the Sky’s system..


Agreed. This is why signing both Ndour and Copper could be a problem.


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PostPosted: 09/15/19 9:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
Dolson is definitely worth max, especially for the Sky’s system..


Agreed. This is why signing both Ndour and Copper could be a problem.


They probably can re-sign everybody if they don't bring back Faulkner, as Rock said, and just replace the last bench spots with rookie(s).


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PostPosted: 09/15/19 9:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Max salaries should be reserved for the elite players of the league. There is nothing about Dolson's game that is elite. If she believes that she deserves a max contract she can go elsewhere and get it. Chicago should offer her $105,000 dollars, MAX.



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PostPosted: 09/15/19 10:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rock Hard wrote:
Max salaries should be reserved for the elite players of the league. There is nothing about Dolson's game that is elite. If she believes that she deserves a max contract she can go elsewhere and get it. Chicago should offer her $105,000 dollars, MAX.


That's not how the max salaries in this league work. There is such a narrow range allowed that bench players make max.


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PostPosted: 09/15/19 11:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
I'd seriously consider moving Quigley to the bench and starting Gabby or Copper. Quigley can't create offense and is a subpar defender. Asking Diamond to lead the team in scoring and guard the best sg/sf is too much.


Would Minnesota/Maya be interested in a trade:


Copper. Lavender & the #8 pk for Maya Moore and Fagbenie


G- Vandersloot
G- DeShields
C- Dolson
F- Ndour
F- Moore
6- Quigley
7- Parker
8- Gabby
9- Samuelson
10- Fagbenie


Maya can be the #1 option on offense. Diamond can be the primary wing defender and still put up 15-17 ppg

Then maybe Diamond should stop throwing up so many bad shots. Benching the most efficient guard in the league would be extremely shortsighted.


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PostPosted: 09/16/19 1:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Aladyyn wrote:

Then maybe Diamond should stop throwing up so many bad shots. Benching the most efficient guard in the league would be extremely shortsighted.


Rolling Eyes

How come Coach Wade didn't call the final play for Chicago's most efficient guard?... He called it for Diamond and DD made the right play... I wish DD would've taken the final shot, but she made the high i.q play by passing the ball to Ndour...Diamond took 20 shot vs LV.....19 of the 20 were quality shots. DD had 3 of her shots blocks and was probably fouled on another 3 or 4 shots. Diamond didn't shoot the ball well but she stayed aggressive and got to the FT line 8 times.............Diamond also had to guard McBride because Quigley couldn't handle the defensive assignment. Diamond was doing such a good job on McBride that Lainbeer had to go big. Hamby scored a couple of buckets on Diamond in the first half but Diamond settled down and did a better job on Hamby in the 2nd half.

I'm not saying that Chicago should definitely move Quigley to the bench. Only that I would consider doing it. Quigley's a great shooter but she can't create offense in pressure situations nor can she guard the more athletic/offensive sg's. Asking Diamond to guard the best scorer, create offense at the end of games, and be the best transition player is a heavy load to carry. I think this is probably why Coach Wade has Diamond standing behind the 3 pt line on so many of possessions. He's trying to get DD some rest.


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PostPosted: 09/16/19 5:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
Max salaries should be reserved for the elite players of the league. There is nothing about Dolson's game that is elite. If she believes that she deserves a max contract she can go elsewhere and get it. Chicago should offer her $105,000 dollars, MAX.


That's not how the max salaries in this league work. There is such a narrow range allowed that bench players make max.

And 105k is pretty damn close to it anyway. Might as well go all the way if you're going that far.

I would remind everyone that the CBA runs out in a month. We have no idea what the salary structure might look like next season, what kind of exceptions there might be, or on a basic level how tight they might make the cap in the first season even if the structure's virtually the same. 7 max/virtual-max deals on a roster has certainly been done in the past (and Phoenix had 8 highly-paid vets this season), but we just don't know what'll be possible next year.



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