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root_thing



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PostPosted: 10/13/19 11:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
PickledGinger wrote:
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And I have no problems exposing smarmy, self-righteous people who criticize the actions of others while they are not similarly at risk.


So you’re saying it’s wrong to call people out for being puppets to a system that is violating human rights when they have nothing of equal value at stake?!? Okay. I guess I can’t criticize Putin anymore because I don’t have a dictatorship to lose. Rolling Eyes What?!?

What would have happened if Silver and Thai would have just said NOTHING rather than voicing their opinion in support something that alienates a huge chunk of the NBA’s domestic fandom?


Go back and read my other posts. I clearly point out that I'm fine with criticism of China over human rights. What I don't like is the simultaneous disparagement of Silver and Tsai in a way that suggests the critic is somehow morally superior. Criticize China all you like, but acknowledge that Silver and Tsai are in a no win situation. Note that neither Silver nor Tsai criticized Daryl Morey, and they defended his right to speak. What both men tried to do was point out that beyond the human rights issue, there is also a real resentment by Chna toward the West based on historical interference. Obviously, Silver and Tsai are just searching for something to say that sort of defends China without further discussing the human rights issue. Nonetheless, the perception of being pushed around by the West is a real sore point with China, and it does factor into the situation.



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PostPosted: 10/14/19 7:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Is Katie still the head coach?
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PostPosted: 10/14/19 10:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Is Katie still the head coach?


Was she ever? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 11:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Smith gone: https://sports.mynorthwest.com/711315/ap-source-liberty-not-renewing-katie-smiths-contract/



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 11:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Smith gone: https://sports.mynorthwest.com/711315/ap-source-liberty-not-renewing-katie-smiths-contract/


Finally.
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 12:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Smith gone: https://sports.mynorthwest.com/711315/ap-source-liberty-not-renewing-katie-smiths-contract/


https://liberty.wnba.com/news/new-york-liberty-announce-head-coach-katie-smiths-contract-not-renewed/

I wish you well Katie, I hope you can get more experience and succeed as a coach!

Excited to see who we bring on board!
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 1:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
she was so bad Liberty Management had no choice. She is just not a good coach

Good luck to Katie, wish her well

Hopefully we get coach that knows what they doin
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 1:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Really no other choice. Didn't want her screwing up Ionescu's career. Gotta bring in a strong coaching staff with the ability to develop young talent (Ionescu, Durr, Nurse, Johannes).



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 1:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
[jumps on soap box]...and some people said I was crazy when I called for this at the beginning of the season. [jumps off soap box]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 1:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I know some people were worried--no criticism intended--but I never believed Katie would be back.

I wish her well. And perhaps she'll be a good head coach in time. But she did a poor job for the Liberty and this move was essential.
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 2:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I'm not surprised but still a bummer that Katie couldn't be successful in her first stint as a head coach.
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 2:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
While I would never be “ecstatic” about someone losing their job, clearly Smith was inadequate as a head coach. Wish her well.



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 3:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Ouuuch NY fans Laughing



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 3:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
So....thoughts on replacements?

I hear Pokey Chatman might be available Shocked Cool
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 4:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
One almost senses that management couldn't make up their minds so they did nothing and let the contract run out. Razz

Like most fans, I wish Katie Smith well. I'm sure she's a nice person and worked very hard, but Smith clearly wasn't ready. A change had to be made.

We've talked about possible candidates before, but management and ownership are both new. There's very little in the way of a track record to indicate which direction they're likely to go. Maybe we get someone totally out of left field.



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 4:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Is Richie Adubato still alive? Bring us back to the glory days of Liberty For All.
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 4:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I can only imagine she'd politely decline, and it'd probably take some real outlay from Tsai anyway, but you've got to at least put a phone call in to Hammon, don't you?



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 5:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Said former Spurs player Pau Gasol: “Becky Hammon can coach NBA basketball. Period.”


The only way Hammon should even take a call on the job is if they’d give her a package deal like Laimbeer got from MGM: President, GM (he could be but taking a load off), and coach.

Even then, why would you give up on the opportunity to be the first woman head coach in the NBA for a WNBA job? She’s helped break through that glass ceiling and other women are now flowing into NBA jobs. She needs to keep going in the NBA. On to the next level.



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 7:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Nancy Lieberman or Carol Ross Idea
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 8:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Maybe they waited to announce Smith's contract expiring so that they wouldn't have to wait too long to interview an assistant on one of the Finals teams (though probably not Marianne Stanley lol).
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 8:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Brandi Poole? Chris Koclanes?



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 8:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Brandi Poole? Chris Koclanes?


I can't imagine either of those seem very likely.

Maybe they go after Thibault Jr.?
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PostPosted: 10/16/19 9:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Brandi Poole? Chris Koclanes?


I can't imagine either of those seem very likely.

Maybe they go after Thibault Jr.?

If you're going the assistant route I'd expect he's on the list. Shelley Patterson as well, probably. But if the Sparks can hire a failed Knicks coach, maybe the Liberty will hire a failed Lakers coach. I hear Magic's been out of work for a little while Smile.



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PostPosted: 10/16/19 11:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
If we're going the wild and crazy route, I'd vote for Jeff Van Gundy. Yeah, he's got a great TV job, but he's from a coaching family and I think it's still in his blood. Jeff walked away from millions of dollars before (Knicks) and he's shown he doesn't care about status (transferred from Yale to junior college). Crazy is his middle name -- this is a guy who tried to tackle Alonzo Mourning, who outweighed him by 90 lbs. Working a short 34 game season with players who are more likely to listen to him could be the lower stress coaching opportunity JVG's been looking for. He has openly expressed admiration for the women's game, and the Liberty job won't have Dolan as an obstacle anymore.



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PostPosted: 10/17/19 12:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
well if we're going for some ex-NBA coaches

what is Brooklyn born, St. John's alum Mark Jackson doing?
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