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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/23/20 12:09 pm ::: |
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This article doesn’t say one word about why she is in New York and not still in the same position with the Aces. |
I had the same reaction. Raimon talks about how great it was to build a winning culture in Las Vegas from the ground up. Then she leaves for a similar position in New York. If it were a promotion, I'd understand. But a lateral move does seem to require an explanation. |
Feels like it was a trade for coaches. Laimbeer probably wanted Tanisha Wright, so maybe his deal was to send Raimon to New York instead of just letting her go. Just speculation here. |
Quite an interesting speculation!
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Posted: 05/23/20 2:23 pm ::: |
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Keia Clarke has been the quiet force known to fans as putting in the work to keep us together...not any more...She's been putting in WORK promoting the team this week...the coup de grace...BREAKFAST CLUB ON 105! Shock jocks yes but they behaved and actually had informed questions...worth a listen...GREAT EXPOSURE
Next up...GET US ON THE KAY SHOW OR ON WFAN PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/nyliberty/status/1264243466223202304?s=20
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root_thing
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Posted: 05/23/20 3:31 pm ::: |
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You don't really know what is going on with Bankina any more than I do. I guess the simplest thing is to wait an see who (if any one of the 3) gets suspended or not, or comes over the play games that may or may not happen. But don't worry, if it turns out that Zahui B. comes over and the other don't I'll probably have forgotten about all this and won't post a self congratulatory BOOYAH.....but you are welcome do so if you are right. |
Yesterday's announced exemption now makes this argument moot, but I had already done the research. You're right, I don't know what happened with Babkina. However, based on her Instagram account, Babkina was in Miami on February 17, returned to her Turkish team on February 25, then back in Miami on May 8. The US never restricted travel from Turkey. However, Turkey itself banned international travel on March 27. Babkina's team played its last game on March 14, so there was a window of 12 days when she could travel from Turkey to the US unimpeded.
I've never used the term BOOYAH in my entire life!
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toad455
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toad455
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Posted: 05/23/20 8:08 pm ::: |
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First cut is clearly Gray, second is Odom. Her chances aren't good unless two foreigners stay home and Stokes gets traded.
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root_thing
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Posted: 05/23/20 8:31 pm ::: |
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Their predictions are similar to those made on this board. At this point, I don’t think there are any more tea leaves to read. We’re just three days away.
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Posted: 05/24/20 1:11 pm ::: |
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toad455
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Posted: 05/24/20 1:39 pm ::: |
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I believe the YES Network has now interviewed all of the Liberty's picks except for Odom. I'd like to give the credit for doing this but it may be they have nothing else to do or air right now.
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/24/20 3:13 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
I believe the YES Network has now interviewed all of the Liberty's picks except for Odom. I'd like to give the credit for doing this but it may be they have nothing else to do or air right now. |
They don't have lots of great options, but they still could ignore the Liberty and the WNBA as is so common in sports media. So I give them credit for these video interviews.
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Posted: 05/24/20 9:42 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
You don't really know what is going on with Bankina any more than I do. I guess the simplest thing is to wait an see who (if any one of the 3) gets suspended or not, or comes over the play games that may or may not happen. But don't worry, if it turns out that Zahui B. comes over and the other don't I'll probably have forgotten about all this and won't post a self congratulatory BOOYAH.....but you are welcome do so if you are right. |
Yesterday's announced exemption now makes this argument moot, but I had already done the research. You're right, I don't know what happened with Babkina. However, based on her Instagram account, Babkina was in Miami on February 17, returned to her Turkish team on February 25, then back in Miami on May 8. The US never restricted travel from Turkey. However, Turkey itself banned international travel on March 27. Babkina's team played its last game on March 14, so there was a window of 12 days when she could travel from Turkey to the US unimpeded.
I've never used the term BOOYAH in my entire life! |
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Posted: 05/24/20 10:46 pm ::: |
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https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/29216547/wnba-teams-set-make-tough-decisions-roster-cuts
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Teams typically would be able to evaluate players by their on-the-court actions. Now it's more based on how quickly they pick things up on Zoom conference calls or how well they understand plays online. |
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Kolb said he's been in constant contact with the international players, who are in China, Sweden, Australia, France and Canada.
"We're taking everything into consideration including things we never anticipated before like long flights," he said. "Now it's a big deal. How do they feel about that? |
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Kolb said the team has been working with the league and its immigration lawyers to try to figure things out for the foreign players. There is a chance one or more of the Liberty's international players could decide she wants to stay abroad. |
I’m glad to see communication has been constant with our foreigners. I hope we can figure things out with them and those who want to come over, can have that option and we don’t have to suspend them.
Guess we will find out Tuesday.
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Posted: 05/24/20 11:27 pm ::: |
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How high do you figure this rim is at?
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Richyyy
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Posted: 05/24/20 11:33 pm ::: |
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https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/29216547/wnba-teams-set-make-tough-decisions-roster-cuts
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Kolb said the team has been working with the league and its immigration lawyers to try to figure things out for the foreign players. There is a chance one or more of the Liberty's international players could decide she wants to stay abroad. |
I’m glad to see communication has been constant with our foreigners. I hope we can figure things out with them and those who want to come over, can have that option and we don’t have to suspend them.
Guess we will find out Tuesday. |
Frankly, I bet they're hoping that at least one or two of the foreigners say they don't want to come. Obviously you want the players with your coaches and developing year-on-year but they've got more than 12 players that they genuinely want to look at as potential pieces of their future, and this 'season' could end up being some kind of bizarre one-month event under strange circumstances. That might barely be worth it for someone like Han or Johannes.
You don't want to have to cut them, but if they agree to just stay home, great. Assess the Americans this year, kick in the rebuild with the international players in 2021. |
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/25/20 12:39 am ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
Frankly, I bet they're hoping that at least one or two of the foreigners say they don't want to come. Obviously you want the players with your coaches and developing year-on-year but they've got more than 12 players that they genuinely want to look at as potential pieces of their future, and this 'season' could end up being some kind of bizarre one-month event under strange circumstances. That might barely be worth it for someone like Han or Johannes.
You don't want to have to cut them, but if they agree to just stay home, great. Assess the Americans this year, kick in the rebuild with the international players in 2021. |
So far we've seen nothing to suggest that the team is eager to release (or trade) any of the 15 players. Tuesday should be quite interesting. Perhaps it'll go as you're suggesting.
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root_thing
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 05/25/20 1:33 am ::: |
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Ok so maybe
Ionescu/Clarendon
Durr/Jones
Nurse/Willoughby/Odom
Allen/Walker/Shook
Zahui B/Stokes
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toad455
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Posted: 05/25/20 8:44 am ::: |
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Ok so maybe
Ionescu/Clarendon
Durr/Jones
Nurse/Willoughby/Odom
Allen/Walker/Shook
Zahui B/Stokes |
Seems about right. I do wonder if whenever the season begins if any player that is listed as suspended and then suddendly can (& wants) to come over would be able to?
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root_thing
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Posted: 05/25/20 9:58 am ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
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Ok so maybe
Ionescu/Clarendon
Durr/Jones
Nurse/Willoughby/Odom
Allen/Walker/Shook
Zahui B/Stokes |
Seems about right. I do wonder if whenever the season begins if any player that is listed as suspended and then suddendly can (& wants) to come over would be able to? |
If it's like the old CBA, anyone with a season suspension can't return. However, the reason to use that type of suspension is to free-up cap space. The Liberty are way under the cap and can carry everybody with room to spare. They would likely use temporary suspensions if allowed. The question is whether they have justification to do it. In the past, players were usually temporarily suspended because they were away doing national team duty. It is possible that someone -- the league office, players union or other teams -- may object to the Liberty using suspensions as a way to deal with roster crowding and scheduling uncertainty.
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toad455
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Posted: 05/26/20 11:11 am ::: |
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Han Xu & Marine Johannes will be suspended and will not come over this season. Reshanda Gray has been waived.
PG: Ionescu/Clarendon
SG: Durr/Jones
SF: Nurse/Willoughby/Odom
PF: Allen/Walker/Shook
C: Zahui B/Stokes
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/26/20 11:46 am ::: |
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Gray was the easy cut. Han was likely the easist to convince to stay home. More or less came down to which other foreigner would like to stay home otherwise Odom is getting cut.
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 05/26/20 12:01 pm ::: |
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Given this roster, especially with Johannes staying in France, I'd guess we'll see more of Nurse at #2 than I had been expecting.
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Posted: 05/26/20 12:30 pm ::: |
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This has got to be a record for rookies making a roster, right?_________________
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Richyyy
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Posted: 05/26/20 12:33 pm ::: |
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This has got to be a record for rookies making a roster, right? |
Does it still count as making a roster if we never play a game in 2020? |
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