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PostPosted: 07/13/19 9:31 pm    ::: Liberty @ Storm - 7/14/19 Reply Reply with quote

Seattle, WA - 7:00 PM ET
TV: JoeTV

Stream:
https://leaguepass.wnba.com

Game page:
https://www.wnba.com/game/20190714/NYLSEA/

ESPN Gamecast:
http://www.espn.com/wnba/game?gameId=401105011



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 11:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This in my view is a needed win for NY standings-wise, if that's anyone's concern. Not having Stokes has changed the picture for me somewhat, especially given their worst defensive performance of the year against Chicago. Tonight's game is still one they should win. They're putting way more talent on the floor than Seattle, but Seattle is coached up to the point where they're still number one in the league in defense putting Mercedes Russell out as the starting C. We'll see what happens. Worst in the league in defense again. Not feeling confident that is going to sort itself out. At least for tonight, Zahui's presence should help against Russell, who had a great game against NY last time.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 12:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Storm have no chance against anyone if Howard doesn't play.


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PostPosted: 07/14/19 12:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Storm have no chance against anyone if Howard doesn't play.


Agreed. Langhorne starts and Paris would have to play 20-25 minutes with Paris & Russell on the floor together for certain stretches.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 2:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

craigmont wrote:
Storm have no chance against anyone if Howard doesn't play.


Who says she's not? Was there an update?



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 3:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
craigmont wrote:
Storm have no chance against anyone if Howard doesn't play.


Who says she's not? Was there an update?


Nobody yet, we'll see what happens.


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PostPosted: 07/14/19 4:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Its time to get over Stokes...
I dont think you will see her in a Liberty Jersey again
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PostPosted: 07/14/19 4:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Its time to get over Stokes...
I dont think you will see her in a Liberty Jersey again
IMHO


Agreed! And it's no big loss, either.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 5:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Lib Fan wrote:
Its time to get over Stokes...
I dont think you will see her in a Liberty Jersey again
IMHO


Agreed! And it's no big loss, either.

I am not up to date on current events. What is wrong with Stokes?



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 5:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howard is playing.

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/27183537/storm-howard-play-abuse-allegations?platform=amp&fbclid=IwAR0059rNDYGlQcefULuKqwz1dl8_abNhbSWcHk-G95Zy30iPYF_JFKiiO_E


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PostPosted: 07/14/19 5:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Durr not starting (again). Let's see if she plays tonight. Hartley starting again at SG.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

craigmont wrote:
Howard is playing.

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/27183537/storm-howard-play-abuse-allegations?platform=amp&fbclid=IwAR0059rNDYGlQcefULuKqwz1dl8_abNhbSWcHk-G95Zy30iPYF_JFKiiO_E


Welp, I'll sit this one out. Haven't missed a Storm game on league pass all season, but I can't do it today. I wonder if Fain and Woodward will have anything to say about it, or if it will be an elephant in the room.


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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sims and Williams are still playing, so it’s literally no surprise that Howard is.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Durr not starting (again). Let's see if she plays tonight. Hartley starting again at SG.


Ugh...Hartley can't play worse then last game I hope


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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

LibFan25 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Durr not starting (again). Let's see if she plays tonight. Hartley starting again at SG.


Ugh...Hartley can't play worse then last game I hope


Or Boyd.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mavcarter wrote:
Sims and Williams are still playing, so it’s literally no surprise that Howard is.


Yeah, not surprised at all. I guess I was holding out hope the Storm would lead the charge somehow. If they even can with no charges filed.

I can't watch LA either.


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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Johannes looks good out there.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Liberty shot only 8 attempts that quarter. Half of our points came from FTs.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

8 TOs. 5 offensive rebounds yielded. Somehow still only down 7.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Some UGLY bball by NY. Only 1 point scored this quarter(0-7 FG).



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 6:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Is it too late to possibly trade Hartley? Hartley to Dallas for a bag of chips?



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Infuriating first half. 14 turnovers. 8 offensive rebounds yielded. Langhorne with three 3s in a game for the first time in her career and it's only halftime. Watching your favorite team beat itself with repeated physical and mental mistakes is beyond frustrating. Against a really good team NY would be down 30.

How many times are we going to watch Boyd attempt a 5-foot bounce pass to a post player? If you don't have a space difference between the offensive players, guess who else there's going to be a lot of in that area? Defensive players. That type of pass is one that Boyd makes repetitively. I'm sick of it. Bad turnovers give teams better looks going the other way. They can shoot in rhythm because they are sometimes wide open. Thus, players like Langhorne suddenly make 3 in a row.

I'm really aggravated at this point. And I know Johannes is new, and you don't want to mess with rotations. I know she may not know all the plays yet...although I'm willing to bet she might. She certainly appears to know them better than Gray, who once again had to be gestured to in order to cut and screen in the right place...this time by Nurse...whose body language afterward showed a great deal of frustration. But at this point, there's no way the team can possibly function worse with Johannes on the floor than it is with Boyd and Hartley.

Zahui hasn't played that well either so maybe there's some travel fatigue involved but whatever. If Hartley and Boyd can't do the job let's get people in who at least have a chance to. Readiness for the WNBA isn't a problem for Johannes, so playing her minutes should not be an issue.

14 freaking TOs. It looks like we are playing a preseason game. Incredibly we are still only down 13.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Have been watching the PHX/MINN game, any mention of Howard's scandal in the broadcast?
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PostPosted: 07/14/19 7:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Have been watching the PHX/MINN game, any mention of Howard's scandal in the broadcast?


None whatsoever.



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PostPosted: 07/14/19 8:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
Tally24 wrote:
Have been watching the PHX/MINN game, any mention of Howard's scandal in the broadcast?


None whatsoever.


Disgusting. Shameful.


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