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[toad455]

[Admiral_Needa]

Nice Nurse

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[Bob Lamm]

[GlennMacGrady]

Liberty offense put up enough points and had 20 assists, but the defense eats moose. They've given up over 90 points in each of the last four games.

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[Admiral_Needa]

[root_thing]

It was clear that Gray and Raincock were too short to handle Fowles. Because NY had to drop defenders back to help out, MN was able to get open shots on the perimeter. Also, NY has no shotblockers without Zahui (and Allen really). The Lynx guards could drive to the basket with impunity. So why not use Han? At 6-9, she might help. You're already getting killed in the middle, and overall New York is last in the league in points allowed by a whopping 5.5 ppg. Are you afraid if Han plays you'll be lower than last?

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[Bob Lamm]

[lynxmania]

Collier starting defending on Boyd and then switching onto Charles. Very impressive for a player and a rookie. Loving her versitility.

[zune69]

If This continues, Han will not show up next season.

[NYL_WNBA_FAN]

[NYL_WNBA_FAN]

I know I'm in the minority on Han, but I think she gives us even less chance to win right now than the people who did play. The player I see is not going to be able to get into help defense position. She hasn't once in any of the few minutes she's played so far. She's tall and gangly and brand new to North American basketball. She's going to grow into her body, but right now I see her as very uncoordinated in any types of movement be they laterally or running. As a team the Liberty don't do that well to begin with, but she's even worse than what we already put out there. Now if your thought is that we aren't winning anyway, so let the young player play, I can see that line of thinking. But, the thing is, no coach is going to sacrifice that in the tenth game of the season. Certainly not 10-34 Katie Smith. But no coach is going to sacrifice the best chance to win at this stage of the season. And even if Han was playing, let's assume that the language is at minimum making it take longer for her to learn the schemes. If she's not ready to play (I maintain she isn't) is it beneficial for her to play and struggle almost completely? I'm not sold that's the learning experience you want for her.

If we had the Stokes of 2015 and early 2016 on this team, we'd probably be over .500. That's particularly frustrating. The offense is just scratching the surface of what it can be (the ball movement is still a work in progress and Durr is still learning) but you can see the upside of having Nurse, Durr and Tina offensively. It's a potent combo. Even without the defensive presence, avoiding all those mindless TOs in the third quarter would have helped too. Might have been able to win this game on the strength of offense alone.

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[toad455]

[NYL_WNBA_FAN]

I don't think you have to worry about her being cut. Katie likes her potential. And Tsai would likely not approve. Nayo will likely be the one to go. It's not like she is adding a ton herself.

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[toad455]

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[Bob Lamm]

I'm not going to discount any of the valid criticisms of Han that have been made here. But I don't agree that she gives us less chance to win than Raincock-Ekunwe. Nayo was completely nonexistent on the offensive end last night. Han adds offense; someone actually has to cover her. And on defense Han adds height and perhaps will block a shot or two.

Raincock-Ekunwe played more than 19 minutes. Han played less than two. The only thing I saw Nayo contribute was five rebounds. I can't believe that at her height Han wouldn't get some rebounds if she played 19 minutes.

Should Tina Charles play 38 minutes, as she did last night? No. Is Raincock-Ekunwe playing so well that she should get 19 minutes to Han's two? No. I'm not advocating taking minutes from Gray, Zahui, or Stokes to give them to Han. But right now, while Zahui B and Stokes are away, Han should get a real look.

[toad455]

Especially considering that neither Gray or Charles could guard Fowles. Han should be getting 10 mpg now. Curious what happens on Friday and if any changes are made. Bias needs a few more minutes so Nurse doesn't play all 40 again. Gotta play a three guard line-up with Bias-Wright-Durr.

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It seems they’re slotting Charles at center, not that it makes a huge difference what position they call it. It’s like arguing about who plays center on the Sparks. It looks like the plan was to have Han back up Charles.

38:12 Charles
..1:48 Han
40:00 Total

I noted in the game thread that Gray started out slow, but she got better further into the game. I don’t know if she got into early foul trouble or Raincock was better defensively, but those two split time at the other post position.

20:37 Gray
19:53 Raincock
40:00 Total

If you want to call Nurse the SF, then all the SF minutes went to her

40:00 Nurse
40:00 Total

Having fun yet? Moving onto the guard positions

32:53 Durr
..7:07 Wright
40:00 Total

26:51 Boyd
..2:28 Bias
10:41 Wright
40:00 Total


I think that’s a decent distribution if you’re trying to win. Roles are defined, which is always a good thing. Players seem to be buying into their roles.

This is a lot better situation than Dallas. Only two defined positions over there, Gray and Thornton. Another defined role is Ogunbowale shooting the most no matter how many minutes she gets.

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[PUmatty]

I'm not in practice, but maybe Han isn't doing well.

[toad455]

[Michelle89]

Nayo played a lot of SF overseas so maybe that is worth a try.

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[Shades]

Maybe Smith is under orders to make sure Han doesn’t get hurt or worn down. Don’t they have Asian qualifying tournaments coming up?

Ting is supposed to be the best Chinese player on the national squad, and she seems to be bubble-wrapped on the Lynx.

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