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PostPosted: 02/10/20 9:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:

I know you are looking at Bella Alarie but with Sims out is Harris at 6 a thought?


No, but I think she may be the best senior PG available below Ionescu.

I haven’t heard anything official about Sims being out. At this point, I’m not feeling desperate to overdraft a guard at #6. I think there will be some good choices available at #14. A lot can still happen in free agency.



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A very weak year for internationals, but here are the top prospects:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2020/02/international-names-to-know-for-2020-draft/

Quite possible that nobody gets picked. Also possible that somebody not on the list (like my deep sleeper Chelsea D'Angelo) gets picked instead.

Next year is the international goldmine as long as nobody makes a late decision to go to college.


Who should be on our radars for next year, OOC?


The name that we will probably hear the most about is Awak Kuier from Finland. Also at that upper tier of prospects is Iliana Rupert, but she will probably fall with availability concerns since she is French. In the next tier are players like Marine Fauthoux from France and Shyla Heal from Australia. Also draft-worthy at this point are Reka Dombai from Hungary, Raquel Carrera from Spain, Lily Scanlon from Australia, and Kendra Chery and Zoe Wadoux from France. A few other players have time to impress and get themselves in the picture by next season.
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Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:

I know you are looking at Bella Alarie but with Sims out is Harris at 6 a thought?


No, but I think she may be the best senior PG available below Ionescu.

I haven’t heard anything official about Sims being out. At this point, I’m not feeling desperate to overdraft a guard at #6. I think there will be some good choices available at #14. A lot can still happen in free agency.


really Shades? It's been announced she's pregnant and will likely miss most of the season.



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https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28675092/ranking-top-25-players-women-college-basketball-three-months-2019-20-season

This is a long article that includes a summary for each player, so go check it out... and then argue it out here.

Produced by the same guys (Creme, Graham, Voepel) that decide ESPNW player of the week, so take that into consideration.

Just a reminder, these rankings are based on college performance this season and not WNBA potential.

1. Sabrina Ionescu, Oregon Ducks, G, 5-foot-11, senior
Season stats: 17.3 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 8.5 APG
Preseason ranking: 1

2. Lauren Cox, Baylor Lady Bears, F, 6-foot-4, senior
Season stats: 11.5 PPG, 8.0 RPG
Preseason ranking: 2

3. Rhyne Howard, Kentucky Wildcats, G, 6-foot-2, sophomore
Season stats: 23.1 PPG, 6.2 RPG
Preseason ranking: 17

4. Satou Sabally, Oregon Ducks, F, 6-foot-4, junior
Season stats: 16.3 PPG, 7.4 RPG
Preseason ranking: 8

5. Ruthy Hebard, Oregon Ducks, F, 6-foot-4, senior
Season stats: 16.5 PPG, 9.3 RPG
Preseason ranking: 5

6. Mikayla Pivec, Oregon State Beavers, G, 5-foot-10, senior
Season stats: 14.4 PPG, 9.7 RPG
Preseason ranking: 13

7. Dana Evans, Louisville Cardinals, G, 5-foot-6, junior
Season stats: 18.5 PPG, 4.3 APG
Preseason ranking: Not ranked

8. Megan Walker, UConn Huskies, F, 6-foot-1, junior
Season stats: 19.0 PPG, 8.9 RPG
Preseason ranking: 15

9. Aari McDonald, Arizona Wildcats, G, 5-foot-6, junior
Season stats: 20.5 PPG, 5.9 RPG
Preseason ranking: 12

10. Chennedy Carter, Texas A&M Aggies, G, 5-foot-7, junior
Season stats: 20.6 PPG, 4.6 RPG
Preseason ranking: 3

11. Elissa Cunane, NC State Wolfpack, C, 6-foot-5, sophomore
Season stats: 17.0 PPG, 10.5 RPG
Preseason ranking: Not ranked

12. Michaela Onyenwere, UCLA Bruins, F, 6-foot, junior
Season stats: 19.9 PPG, 7.9 RPG
Preseason ranking: 11

13. Aliyah Boston, South Carolina Gamecocks, F, 6-foot-5, freshman
Season stats: 13.3 PPG, 9.1 RPG
Preseason ranking: Not ranked

14. Christyn Williams, UConn Huskies, G, 5-foot-11, sophomore
Season stats: 14.9 PPG, 5.0 RPG
Preseason ranking: 10

15. Crystal Dangerfield, UConn Huskies, G, 5-foot-5, senior
Season stats: 16.0 PPG, 4.0 APG
Preseason ranking: 6

16. Tyasha Harris, South Carolina Gamecocks, G, 5-foot-10, senior
Season stats: 12.1 PPG, 5.5 APG
Preseason ranking: Not ranked

17. Kathleen Doyle, Iowa Hawkeyes, G, 5-foot-9, senior
Season stats: 18.7 PPG, 6.5 APG
Preseason ranking: Not ranked

18. Rennia Davis, Tennessee Lady Vols, G/F, 6-foot-2, junior
Season stats: 18.1 PPG, 8.3 RPG
Preseason ranking: Not ranked

19. Destiny Slocum, Oregon State Beavers, G, 5-foot-7, junior
Season stats: 14.6 PPG, 4.9 APG
Preseason ranking: 9

20. Kiah Gillespie, Florida State Seminoles, F, 6-foot-2, senior
Season stats: 15.8 PPG, 9.0 RPG
Preseason ranking: 21

21. Ashley Joens, Iowa State Cyclones, G/F, 6-foot, sophomore
Season stats: 21.3 PPG, 10.5 RPG
Preseason ranking: Not ranked

22. NaLyssa Smith, Baylor Lady Bears, F, 6-foot-2, sophomore
Season stats: 14.9 PPG, 7.5 RPG
Preseason ranking: Not ranked

23. Kiana Williams, Stanford Cardinal, G, 5-foot-8, junior
Season stats: 13.0 PPG, 3.9 APG
Preseason ranking: 14

24. Chelsea Dungee, Arkansas Razorbacks, G, 5-foot-11, junior
Season stats: 18.1 PPG, 5.0 RPG
Preseason ranking: 18

25. Beatrice Mompremier, Miami Hurricanes, F, 6-foot-4, senior
Season stats: 16.3 PPG, 10.4 RPG
Preseason ranking: 7

Dropped out: Kaila Charles, Maryland (No. 4); Bella Alarie, Princeton (No. 16); Tynice Martin, West Virginia (No. 19); DiJonai Carrington, Stanford (No. 20); Peyton Williams, Kansas State (No. 22); Elizabeth Balogun, Louisville (No. 23); Ae'rianna Harris, Purdue (No. 24); Shadeen Samuels, Seton Hall (No. 25)

Senior
Draft eligible


The #6 Pivec is the first example of college ranking not equaling WNBA draft ranking. Keep that in mind, Reeve. You already have Carleton if you re-sign her.

Spooner’s lottery pick is teetering at #25. She’s missed quite a few games, as has Chennedy Carter.
They’re being brutal to Charles and Alarie. Maryland is ranked Top 10. Princeton is not ranked but close.



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As it stands

Rd 1
#1 New York Liberty
#2 Dallas Wings
#3 Indiana Fever
#4 Atlanta Dream
#5 Dallas Wings
#6 Minnesota Lynx
#7 Dallas Wings
#8 Chicago Sky
#9 Dallas Wings
#10 Phoenix Mercury
#11 Seattle Storm
#12 Washington Mystics


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WNBA 09 wrote:
As it stands

Rd 1
#1 New York Liberty
#2 Dallas Wings
#3 Indiana Fever
#4 Atlanta Dream
#5 Dallas Wings
#6 Minnesota Lynx
#7 Dallas Wings
#8 Chicago Sky
#9 Dallas Wings
#10 Phoenix Mercury
#11 Seattle Storm
#12 Washington Mystics


Seriously, who is Dallas going after Laughing Laughing Laughing We all know it ain't staying like this!


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Stormeo wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
As it stands

Rd 1
#1 New York Liberty
#2 Dallas Wings
#3 Indiana Fever
#4 Atlanta Dream
#5 Dallas Wings
#6 Minnesota Lynx
#7 Dallas Wings
#8 Chicago Sky
#9 Dallas Wings
#10 Phoenix Mercury
#11 Seattle Storm
#12 Washington Mystics


Seriously, who is Dallas going after Laughing Laughing Laughing We all know it ain't staying like this!


Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy The Casino will cash us in !!!!



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Would Indy or Atl give up 3 or 4 for 5 and 7?


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Would Indy or Atl give up 3 or 4 for 5 and 7?


Total gamble huh Cool



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J-Spoon wrote:
Would Indy or Atl give up 3 or 4 for 5 and 7?


If I were Atlanta I'd seriously consider it



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J-Spoon wrote:
Would Indy or Atl give up 3 or 4 for 5 and 7?


If I were Atlanta I'd seriously consider it


You must be in love with this draft. Who do you want?

It would be silly to make it such a trade before declarations were decided. Somebody tell me why.



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I still can't digest the Bella Alarie hype. Her stats to me are over inflated because she plays in the Ivy league. Would she still produce her current numbers if she was in one of the power five conferences? I wonder. Razz



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I still can't digest the Bella Alarie hype. Her stats to me are over inflated because she plays in the Ivy league. Would she still produce her current numbers if she was in one of the power five conferences? I wonder. Razz


She had 26 pts in an OT loss at Iowa, so she'd perhaps be in the running for Big Ten POTY. Not sure about the conferences with actual National Championship contenders though. Smile


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Rock Hard wrote:
I still can't digest the Bella Alarie hype. Her stats to me are over inflated because she plays in the Ivy league. Would she still produce her current numbers if she was in one of the power five conferences? I wonder. Razz


She had 26 pts in an OT loss at Iowa, so she'd perhaps be in the running for Big Ten POTY. Not sure about the conferences with actual National Championship contenders though. Smile

I guess you might be on to something. Anyone with a pulse will look like a superstar in cornbread country.



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The new discovery of good post talent did not make the above list. This player is my second favorite post player second only to Lauren Cox and that is Natasha Mack. The way everyone wants Sabally and Carter to leave school early my number one wish is for Mack to declare for the draft. Cool
It just a pipe dream, I know.



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Rock Hard wrote:
I still can't digest the Bella Alarie hype. Her stats to me are over inflated because she plays in the Ivy league. Would she still produce her current numbers if she was in one of the power five conferences? I wonder. Razz


I’ve yet to see her live but from the highlights she gives me a bigger Syd Weise with a better finesse game on the block. She could surprise a few on the right squad. Do I think she’s going to be an all star from what I’ve seen? NO...Is this a weak draft though? YES



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Rock Hard wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
I still can't digest the Bella Alarie hype. Her stats to me are over inflated because she plays in the Ivy league. Would she still produce her current numbers if she was in one of the power five conferences? I wonder. Razz


She had 26 pts in an OT loss at Iowa, so she'd perhaps be in the running for Big Ten POTY. Not sure about the conferences with actual National Championship contenders though. Smile

I guess you might be on to something. Anyone with a pulse will look like a superstar in cornbread country.


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Rock Hard wrote:
The new discovery of good post talent did not make the above list. This player is my second favorite post player second only to Lauren Cox and that is Natasha Mack. The way everyone wants Sabally and Carter to leave school early my number one wish is for Mack to declare for the draft. Cool
It just a pipe dream, I know.


I just don't see Mack entering early. She'd only be a second-round pick this year.



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toad455 wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
The new discovery of good post talent did not make the above list. This player is my second favorite post player second only to Lauren Cox and that is Natasha Mack. The way everyone wants Sabally and Carter to leave school early my number one wish is for Mack to declare for the draft. Cool
It just a pipe dream, I know.


I just don't see Mack entering early. She'd only be a second-round pick this year.

Mack can make a jump shot unlike Monpremier and Hebard. She is also the best defensive post in the country. She is a great rebounder and shot blocker. The only reason that she might fall in this draft is because she is a fresh face and no one knows about her yet.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
I still can't digest the Bella Alarie hype. Her stats to me are over inflated because she plays in the Ivy league. Would she still produce her current numbers if she was in one of the power five conferences? I wonder. Razz


She had 26 pts in an OT loss at Iowa, so she'd perhaps be in the running for Big Ten POTY. Not sure about the conferences with actual National Championship contenders though. Smile

I guess you might be on to something. Anyone with a pulse will look like a superstar in cornbread country.


Laughing Laughing Laughing


I always thought the South was cornbread* country and I've lived in both regions of the country.

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All right, we gotta talk about Louisville's Jazmine Jones, who shockingly no one both on this forum and in WBB media ever seems to bring up?
    6'0 true SG that plays some SF
    14.1 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 1.6 ATO (averaging 3.4 APG)
    Leads the team in both FG% (55.6%) and SPG (1.7) so she earns the "two-way player" label at least in my book
    Averages only 1.2 3-point attempts/game but still shoots a not-terrible 36%
    Had 19 points on 7-11 FG (3-4 3PT) along with 8 boards in their most recent win, @#4 NC State

She'll never become a star player at the next level, but the way this year's draft pool is, I'd be shocked if she didn't go somewhere in the second round. Imo there's even a chance that she's picked in the first round - I'd be more than content with my Storm picking her at #11, for example. She's been a fantastic role player this year, so in theory she'd be quicker to settle into being one at the next level than many of these other prospects.


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WNBA Draft Watch 2020: Tyasha Harris leading No. 1 South Carolina Gamecocks


https://www.swishappeal.com/ncaa/2020/2/14/21133100/ncaaw-tyasha-harris-south-carolina-gamecocks-dawn-staley-sec-wnba-draft-2020-prospect



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“Ty was a difference-maker,” Staley said, per The Athletic’s Tamryn Spruill. “She’s a seasoned point guard that, and I’m gonna say this, if you look at the mock drafts, they don’t even have her talked about as being a first-rounder in the WNBA. You gotta be kidding me. You gotta be kidding me. So, if other people aren’t going to write the narrative I have to say it because she’s showing everybody around the country what she’s made of.”



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https://www.swishappeal.com/ncaa/2020/2/14/21133100/ncaaw-tyasha-harris-south-carolina-gamecocks-dawn-staley-sec-wnba-draft-2020-prospect

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“Ty was a difference-maker,” Staley said, per The Athletic’s Tamryn Spruill. “She’s a seasoned point guard that, and I’m gonna say this, if you look at the mock drafts, they don’t even have her talked about as being a first-rounder in the WNBA. You gotta be kidding me. You gotta be kidding me. So, if other people aren’t going to write the narrative I have to say it because she’s showing everybody around the country what she’s made of.”


http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=96288&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=496

Staley is doing what all coaches do with their seniors, sell them hard for the draft. But I’ve been talking about Harris in the first round at #12. Would be perfect for Thibault, which probably means he’ll pick somebody else. The Lynx could use her, but #6 seems a bit high considering the level of talent that could be there. I’d say she’s a better WNBA prospect than Dangerfield. Somebody’s going to pick Dangerfield too high, and also pick Pivec too high. Hopefully both are taken by Dallas if they keep all those first round picks. Wink



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I don't watch South Carolina WBB enough to know, but I wonder why Harris doesn't average more APG than she does (5.4), given all the weapons around her including one of the best post players in the country in Boston. Regardless, 5.4 per game ain't bad; and her fantastic ATO of 2.72 is probably the more important assists-related number anyway. She doesn't have any clear weaknesses to her game, but other than her ATO, idk, she doesn't stand out to me - maybe just because she isn't flashy like other guards in the draft pool. Still, she's certainly in the first-round of my mock (I too have her #12 to the Mystics - though I'm not gonna update it until the funky draft order inevitably gets a bit more sorted out!).

Rock Hard wrote:
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Rock Hard wrote:
The new discovery of good post talent did not make the above list. This player is my second favorite post player second only to Lauren Cox and that is Natasha Mack. The way everyone wants Sabally and Carter to leave school early my number one wish is for Mack to declare for the draft. Cool
It just a pipe dream, I know.


I just don't see Mack entering early. She'd only be a second-round pick this year.

Mack can make a jump shot unlike Mompremier and Hebard. She is also the best defensive post in the country. She is a great rebounder and shot blocker. The only reason that she might fall in this draft is because she is a fresh face and no one knows about her yet.


I promise I know about Natasha Mack! (fwiw... which is next to nothing Laughing ) She reminds me in a lot of ways of another Natasha... She's certainly good enough to where if she were to early-declare, I think she'd get enough attention in doing that to sneak into the first round - especially if Miami's Mompremier's draft stock falls if she mysteriously doesn't play the rest of the year, as nobody knows why she hasn't played since ACC season started. Injury? Personal reason? Whatever the reason, they sure are keeping it private & locked up tight. (I'd be real frustrated if I were a Miami WBB fan.)

Stanford's Carrington still isn't back from her injury either, but she at least could medical redshirt and play college ball next year if she's out the rest of this year. There doesn't appear to be as many SGs in the 2021 draft pool as there are for this year, too, so honestly she probably should just redshirt - even if she has to leave Stanford via grad-transfer to do so. (VanDerveer almost always fills up her roster to the 15-player max every year. Myrtle would likely know the roster numbers/dynamics for next season.)




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