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| If I’m a WNBA Gm I’m watching cooper outplay dangerfield at the moment. Tea Coopers game is made for the WNBA. Sort of like that Cubic Girl y’all remember? |
Dangerfield is very overrated, IMO. |
I actually thought she was pretty darn good. I still think she is , but I now believe Tea Cooper will be better at the next level. |
Three things:
1. Crystal is a very good PG, but can be a poor decision maker. As a senior, she makes plays about once or twice a game, every game, that a freshmen would make. She shots the ball pretty well, she’s a good passer, and she could be a very good defender at the next level.
2. I think Te’a Cooper is very, very good. What she has now that she hasn’t in 4 years of college, is a good coach. Dawn is a great recruiter, motivator, and ambassador, but her X’s and O’s, to me, are not elite. Kim on the other hand is an excellent coach and I think she’s done wonders with Cooper
3. Both of their problems IMO, are height.
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| If I’m a WNBA Gm I’m watching cooper outplay dangerfield at the moment. Tea Coopers game is made for the WNBA. Sort of like that Cubic Girl y’all remember? |
Dangerfield is very overrated, IMO. |
I actually thought she was pretty darn good. I still think she is , but I now believe Tea Cooper will be better at the next level. |
Three things:
1. Crystal is a very good PG, but can be a poor decision maker. As a senior, she makes plays about once or twice a game, every game, that a freshmen would make. She shots the ball pretty well, she’s a good passer, and she could be a very good defender at the next level.
2. I think Te’a Cooper is very, very good. What she has now that she hasn’t in 4 years of college, is a good coach. Dawn is a great recruiter, motivator, and ambassador, but her X’s and O’s, to me, are not elite. Kim on the other hand is an excellent coach and I think she’s done wonders with Cooper
3. Both of their problems IMO, are height. |
Bart I couldn’t agree more with everything you have stated here. Both will struggle due to height. You have to be able to create your own shot at that size and that’s where I believe cooper may have the advantage. Dangerfield relies on screens to get her shot off. Not a lot of creating on her own resulting in good shots.
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UConn’s offense isn’t structured for players to go iso to create their own looks. Wasn’t this same concern used to raise doubts about Nurse? We all see how that turned out.
Obviously, I’m not calling Dangerfield the next Kia Nurse. However, I’m not so sure we can say Dangerfield can’t create her own looks because of the offense she’s in.
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| Dangerfield is Ketia Swanier redux
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UConn’s offense isn’t structured for players to go iso to create their own looks. Wasn’t this same concern used to raise doubts about Nurse? We all see how that turned out.
Obviously, I’m not calling Dangerfield the next Kia Nurse. However, I’m not so sure we can say Dangerfield can’t create her own looks because of the offense she’s in. |
Nurse has the size and strength. If you don’t have those you won’t be able to create your own shot period. Nurse and Dangerfield are in different boats. Nurse as a WNBA PG would be disastrous. Dangerfield has no other option but to play PG at the next level. I can see her as a back up PG at most in her future within the league.
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| Dangerfield is Ketia Swanier redux |
Exactly. She'll stick on a roster as long as she's on a rookie contract. After that she's done unless her game improves.
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UConn’s offense isn’t structured for players to go iso to create their own looks. Wasn’t this same concern used to raise doubts about Nurse? We all see how that turned out.
Obviously, I’m not calling Dangerfield the next Kia Nurse. However, I’m not so sure we can say Dangerfield can’t create her own looks because of the offense she’s in. |
Nurse has the size and strength. If you don’t have those you won’t be able to create your own shot period. Nurse and Dangerfield are in different boats. Nurse as a WNBA PG would be disastrous. Dangerfield has no other option but to play PG at the next level. I can see her as a back up PG at most in her future within the league. |
Nurse’s size and strength was never in question. It was her ability to create her own looks off the dribble because she didn’t do it often, which is where the comparison came in. On this very board, I remember several posters using the fact most of her scores came on wide open 3s and layups against her.
Leilani Mitchell is coming off the best season of her career, and I’ve never seen anyone consider her a grade A shot creator. Dangerfield has nice range and quickness, which plays into her favor. The biggest concern would probably be her durability, as she’s missed games and is smaller. She’s still a very good point guard, and on the right team I think she has the chance to be useful.
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| Posted: 01/13/20 2:17 pm ::: |
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| Dangerfield is Ketia Swanier redux |
Exactly. She'll stick on a roster as long as she's on a rookie contract. After that she's done unless her game improves. |
Disagree. Dangerfield is a much better shooter, dribbler, passer, leader and scorer than Swanier. Swanier was faster than Dangerfield in a straight line but not in the same ballpark as Dangerfield when assessing their skills as a PG.
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Both of their problems IMO, are height. |
Cooper is listed at 5’8 while Dangerfield is listed at 5’5.
That’ll be a huge difference at the next level.
Jefferson was listed as 5’7, which was fudging the truth. Jefferson is slight, while Dangerfield is more muscular. Will Dangerfield be less injury prone than Jefferson? Will Dangerfield being pick later than #2 give her less opportunity to succeed? Probably.
I’m nervous that Reeve might look at Dangerfield at #6 because PG may be an area of need, and Reeve probably feels she can’t lose with a UConn player.
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| Posted: 01/13/20 10:08 pm ::: |
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| Reeve might be seeing a Monty JR here...
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| FLB has given us an example of a tiny PG who can succeed and keep a place in the league beyond rookiness. But it ain't easy. |
Yeah - drafted 25 th. I guess Hammon is another, but they are rare.
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A good PG can only be as good as the players she has to work with. Dangerfield with a full complement of skilled players should do very well at the next level.
Right now, she"s only playing with two other skilled players on the team, no front court to speak of, offensively, and yet, no skilled bench players. And she must score for UConn to win. A tough very gig!
Remember, women's basketball is not a one-on-one game position by position, it's a team game. Good PG's come in all shapes and sizes and mostly all of them have a shortcoming or two.
Would Minnesota be glad to get her? Hell yes! Would Dangerfield be glad to get drafted by Minnesota? Hell yes!
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Would Minnesota be glad to get her? |
I don’t know if you should be representing what Minnesota wants over me. I admit you might represent what Reeve wants though.
The player that might be available at #6 that I’m most intrigued about is Elena Bella Alarie. A player like her isn’t common. Short guards are a dime a dozen. At this time I’d rather take Alarie at #6 and look for another dime a dozen guard at #14. Cooper might be available then. Harris out of SC. Maybe Gondrezick if she declares. Slocum if she declares? So many guard possibilities.
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| Posted: 01/15/20 9:09 am ::: |
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| If I’m a WNBA Gm I’m watching cooper outplay dangerfield at the moment. Tea Coopers game is made for the WNBA. Sort of like that Cubic Girl y’all remember? |
Dangerfield is very overrated, IMO. |
I actually thought she was pretty darn good. I still think she is , but I now believe Tea Cooper will be better at the next level. |
Three things:
1. Crystal is a very good PG, but can be a poor decision maker. As a senior, she makes plays about once or twice a game, every game, that a freshmen would make. She shots the ball pretty well, she’s a good passer, and she could be a very good defender at the next level.
2. I think Te’a Cooper is very, very good. What she has now that she hasn’t in 4 years of college, is a good coach. Dawn is a great recruiter, motivator, and ambassador, but her X’s and O’s, to me, are not elite. Kim on the other hand is an excellent coach and I think she’s done wonders with Cooper
3. Both of their problems IMO, are height. |
Bart I couldn’t agree more with everything you have stated here. Both will struggle due to height. You have to be able to create your own shot at that size and that’s where I believe cooper may have the advantage. Dangerfield relies on screens to get her shot off. Not a lot of creating on her own resulting in good shots. |
CD can create her own shot, especially in the mid-range...which is the area where I think she has improved the most in four years. I have watched every minute of every game of hers for four years. She has some decision making problems, but her basketball talent is great. She is quick, especially on defense, and she is a very good shooter.
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My brain cells are working overtime to figure out how this would happen + if those two would actually make a good backcourt pairing...?
