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| Naw, there’s not a lot of talk about Harris, and definitely not in the first round. She’s under the radar for first round. |
Semantics. 
Do you or anybody else have an opinion about Jocelyn Willoughby of Virginia? I've only seen her once that I can remember. At 6-0, she looks to have a strong, pro-ready body, and her stats are pretty good. Willoughby seems to have the offensive game of a small forward, so she's fine on that end. However, the only time I saw her she was defending at center -- probably because she's so strong and Aiyeoton unexpectedly retired. That would be a major transition at the next level. |
Haven't seen a whole lot of her but I see there are a couple taped Virginia games on YouTube lol. Her 3-point %, which right now is at exactly 40%, will make or break her imo. Her 2-point % is a bit on the low side for a SF prospect (45%), but the biggest knock on her is her ATO being well below 1. Otherwise, pretty good rebounder and leads her team in steals. She could become a 3-and-D type of role player at the next level. I have her on my prospects list and current mock draft as a SF prospect, too, I think she's worth taking a flier on.
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| Posted: 01/24/20 3:21 pm ::: |
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| The draft is scheduled for April 17th
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| Posted: 01/25/20 10:33 pm ::: |
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| Hey NY your getting the next great player this decade. Take advantage!
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| Posted: 01/26/20 6:24 pm ::: |
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Here’s something I thought I’d never say.
Kathleen Doyle of Iowa on the draft radar?
I have a tough time seeing her stick on a roster long term, although that’s up to her if she gets the opportunity. She’s having a Big Ten POY level of a season.
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| Posted: 01/28/20 9:01 pm ::: |
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| Dangerfield is Ketia Swanier redux |
Exactly. She'll stick on a roster as long as she's on a rookie contract. After that she's done unless her game improves. |
Disagree. Dangerfield is a much better shooter, dribbler, passer, leader and scorer than Swanier. Swanier was faster than Dangerfield in a straight line but not in the same ballpark as Dangerfield when assessing their skills as a PG. |
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| Posted: 01/28/20 9:54 pm ::: |
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This is a pretty futile thing to do considering we have no idea about early entries and it feels like some picks will end up being traded but since I haven't done one in awhile. Also going to include Salaby and Carter because it makes it much easier IMO
1. NY Ionescu
2. Dallas Cox
3. Indy Salaby
4. Atl Carter
5. PX Mompremier
6. Minn Bella Alarie
7. Sea Charles
8. Chi Hebard
9. Dallas Cooper
10 Conn Dangerfield
11. Conn Gilespie
12. Was Harris
13. NY Holmes
14. Minn Pivec
15. Dallas Martin
and right about here I start to lose interest
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| Posted: 01/28/20 10:39 pm ::: |
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Spooner, you seem to be paying attention... at least to Cooper, anyway. She has yet another impressive game tonight. She’s definitely flirting with first round if she can keep it up.
As far as Mompremier goes, she’s been hurt lately. I’m not sure what’s up with that. I haven’t seen anything from her this year that shows me that she deserves to be up that high. As of now I have Hebard above her.
Some people love Pivec in the first round, but I’d rather have Gorecki as a value pick in a later round.
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| Posted: 01/28/20 11:08 pm ::: |
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This is a pretty futile thing to do considering we have no idea about early entries and it feels like some picks will end up being traded but since I haven't done one in awhile. Also going to include Salaby and Carter because it makes it much easier IMO
1. NY Ionescu
2. Dallas Cox
3. Indy Salaby
4. Atl Carter
5. PX Mompremier
6. Minn Bella Alarie
7. Sea Charles
8. Chi Hebard
9. Dallas Cooper
10 Conn Dangerfield
11. Conn Gilespie
12. Was Harris
13. NY Holmes
14. Minn Pivec
15. Dallas Martin
and right about here I start to lose interest |
I think Holmes is someone that should go in the first round. I think she’ll be better in the pros than in college. She’s had a really solid senior year, and I could see a teams like Phoenix, Chicago and Seattle being intrigued due to her skill set and size.
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Stormeo
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| Posted: 01/29/20 12:18 am ::: |
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| J-Spoon wrote: |
This is a pretty futile thing to do considering we have no idea about early entries and it feels like some picks will end up being traded but since I haven't done one in awhile. Also going to include Salaby and Carter because it makes it much easier IMO
1. NY Ionescu
2. Dallas Cox
3. Indy Salaby
4. Atl Carter
5. PX Mompremier
6. Minn Bella Alarie
7. Sea Charles
8. Chi Hebard
9. Dallas Cooper
10 Conn Dangerfield
11. Conn Gilespie
12. Was Harris
13. NY Holmes
14. Minn Pivec
15. Dallas Martin
and right about here I start to lose interest |
I think Holmes is someone that should go in the first round. I think she’ll be better in the pros than in college. She’s had a really solid senior year, and I could see a teams like Phoenix, Chicago and Seattle being intrigued due to her skill set and size. |
I totally agree
it is no coincidence that I put her at 13 being a NY fan
but I think she has the potential for a slight fall depending on who moves up
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| Posted: 01/29/20 11:26 pm ::: |
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| Joyner Holmes is interesting. After her freshman year I was sure she would be a POY candidate, then she had several setbacks. I think she could turn out to be really really good player in the right situation.
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| Posted: 01/30/20 8:13 am ::: |
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| Joyner Holmes is interesting. After her freshman year I was sure she would be a POY candidate, then she had several setbacks. I think she could turn out to be really really good player in the right situation. |
This _____ If we keep our 2nd first rd pick and shes around i want her.
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| Posted: 01/30/20 10:07 am ::: |
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| Joyner Holmes is interesting. After her freshman year I was sure she would be a POY candidate, then she had several setbacks. I think she could turn out to be really really good player in the right situation. |
This _____ If we keep our 2nd first rd pick and shes around i want her. |
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| Posted: 01/30/20 12:58 pm ::: |
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| Hey NY your getting the next great player this decade. Take advantage! |
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| Posted: 02/01/20 2:59 am ::: |
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https://www.vnews.com/Dartmouth-Women-s-Basketball-host-Princeton-Ivy-League-play-32305354
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| Along with the rankings, they entered Friday No. 1 in the country in fewest turnovers. Starting guard Bella Alarie, who scored 23 points against the Big Green, is an expected top-10 pick in this spring’s WNBA draft. Connecticut Sun coach Curt Miller was at Leede Arena on Friday night to watch her play. |
Miller doesn’t pick until #10 & #11.
We’re not going to let Miller draft her....
Are we, Reeve?
Are we, Hughes?
Are we, Wade?
Are we, Bibb?
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| Posted: 02/01/20 6:05 pm ::: |
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We’re not going to let Miller draft her....
Are we, Reeve?
Are we, Hughes?
Are we, Wade?
Are we, Bibb? |
Like I said, I have her at #3 right now, if no one early-declares. If Indiana wants to stop rebuilding & start winning, Alarie’s face-up/perimeter game is a better complement to (and would take less adjusting to) McCowan than Hebard or Mompremier; More upside imo, too. Her Team USA 3x3 experience should legitimize her on its own, but her stats this year are also great - 18.2 PPG, 50% FG, 54% 3PT on ~2 attempts/game, 8.6 RPG, 2.3 BPG. Only 11 games played, but Ivy League schools play less games than everyone else anyway. Her competition isn’t ideal, but then again, neither was Delle Donne’s; and as we’ve said, Alarie’s a poor-man’s version of her. And if only one junior early-declares, Alarie I think should still be a lottery pick. No one else at this point particularly jumps out at me after Ionescu & Cox. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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| Posted: 02/01/20 9:04 pm ::: |
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| Joyner Holmes is interesting. After her freshman year I was sure she would be a POY candidate, then she had several setbacks. I think she could turn out to be really really good player in the right situation. |
This _____ If we keep our 2nd first rd pick and shes around i want her. |
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I'm not convinced. But ok as a second round pick I guess. Even though some of it is injury, she's shown no inclination to actually get into shape that I have seen. Plus I like to see bball 'smarts' from someone with potential, and she too often just does dumb things (IMO).
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| Posted: 02/01/20 10:31 pm ::: |
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| Joyner Holmes is interesting. After her freshman year I was sure she would be a POY candidate, then she had several setbacks. I think she could turn out to be really really good player in the right situation. |
This _____ If we keep our 2nd first rd pick and shes around i want her. |
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I'm not convinced. But ok as a second round pick I guess. Even though some of it is injury, she's shown no inclination to actually get into shape that I have seen. Plus I like to see bball 'smarts' from someone with potential, and she too often just does dumb things (IMO). |
They’re saying second first round pick (#9), not the second round pick (#15 or #21) .
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| Posted: 02/02/20 11:29 am ::: |
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| Joyner Holmes is interesting. After her freshman year I was sure she would be a POY candidate, then she had several setbacks. I think she could turn out to be really really good player in the right situation. |
This _____ If we keep our 2nd first rd pick and shes around i want her. |
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I'm not convinced. But ok as a second round pick I guess. Even though some of it is injury, she's shown no inclination to actually get into shape that I have seen. Plus I like to see bball 'smarts' from someone with potential, and she too often just does dumb things (IMO). |
They’re saying second first round pick (#9), not the second round pick (#15 or #21) . |
Currently, playing at a sophomore level.
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My rationale was, maybe Marianne Stanley wants a Delle Donne-type player of her own in Indiana; and Atlanta with or without McCoughtry still has a hole at PG and a need for 3-point shooting (though Dangerfield at 4 to any team would probably be downright