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[NYSports56]

2019 REBKELL FANTASY BASKETBALL LEAGUE

LEAGUE CHAMPION: J-SPOON

CHAMPIONSHIP GAME: MOJO/MYRTLE(9-3) vs. J-SPOON(10-4)
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J-Spoon 138.9, Mojo/myrtle 116.9 (FINAL)

MOJO/MYRTLE
18.9 - Jasmine Thomas, G, CONN (10 Pts, 2 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 TO)
12.5 - Allie Quigley, G, CHI (9 Pts, 3 Ast, 1 TO)
29.9 - Emma Meesseman, F, WASH (13 Pts, 7 Reb, 7 Ast, 2 TO)
19.2 - Brianna Turner, F, PHOE (10 Pts, 6 Reb, 1 Blk, 1 TO)
36.4 - Brittney Griner, C, PHOE (22 Pts, 7 Reb, 4 Ast, 1 Blk, 3 TO)
116.9

J-SPOON
44.4 - Diamond DeShields, G, CHI (30 Pts, 7 Reb, 2 Ast, 2 Stl, 3 TO)
16.0 - Kelsey Plum, G, LV (7 Pts, 5 Reb, 2 Stl, 3 TO)
28.3 - Alysha Clark, F, SEA (17 Pts, 4 Reb, 1 Ast, 2 Stl, 1 TO)
22.6 - Elizabeth Williams, FC, ATL (15 Pts, 8 Reb, 2 TO)
27.6 - Liz Cambage, C, LV (15 Pts, 3 Reb, 3 Blk)
138.9


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ROSTERS

ADAMJ95
Sue Bird, G, SEA
Lexie Brown, G, MIN
Damiris Dantas, F, MIN
Elena Delle Donne, GF, WASH
Dearica Hamby, F, LV
Briann January, G, PHOE
Chiney Ogwumike, FC, LA
LaToya Sanders, FC, WASH
Riquna Williams, G, LA
Jackie Young, G, LV

ADMIRAL NEEDA
Isabelle Harrison, F, DALL
Jonquel Jones, FC, CONN
Kayla McBride, G, LV
Teaira McCowan, C, IND
Kia Nurse, G, NY
Arike Ogunbowale, G, DALL
Candace Parker, FC, LA
Danielle Robinson, G, MIN
Shatori Walker-Kimbrough, G, WASH
Sami Whitcomb, GF, SEA

CALBEARMAN76/TBINTA
Kaela Davis, GF, DALL
Sylvia Fowles, C, MIN
Betnijah Laney, G, IND
Jewell Loyd, G, SEA
Sancho Lyttle, F, PHOE
Cheyenne Parker, F, CHI
Theresa Plaisance, FC, CONN
Katie Lou Samuelson, GF, CHI
Courtney Williams, G, CONN
Gabby Williams, F, CHI

ERIMUS
Brittany Boyd, G, NY
Kalani Brown, C, LA
Kennedy Burke, G, IND
Asia Durr, G, NY
Bria Hartley, G, NY
Tianna Hawkins, F, WASH
Marina Mabrey, G, LA
Nneka Ogwumike, F, LA
Brittney Sykes, G, ATL
Diana Taurasi, G, PHOE

HOOPMOM
Essence Carson, G, PHOE
Candice Dupree, F, IND
Chelsea Gray, G, LA
Marie Gulich, C, ATL
Natasha Howard, F, SEA
Imani McGee-Stafford, C, DALL
Kelsey Mitchell, G, IND
Odyssey Sims, G, MIN
Maria Vadeeva, FC, LA
Tamera Young, F, LV

J-SPOON
Liz Cambage, C, LV
Alysha Clark, F, SEA
Nia Coffey, F, ATL
Kahleah Copper, GF, CHI
Diamond DeShields, G, CHI
Tiffany Mitchell, G, IND
Kelsey Plum, G, LV
Shekinna Stricklen, GF, CONN
Carolyn Swords, C, LV
Elizabeth Williams, FC, ATL

MOJO/MYRTLE
Skylar Diggins-Smith, G, DALL
Brittney Griner, C, PHOE
Bria Holmes, G, CONN
Angel McCoughtry, GF, ATL
Emma Meesseman, F, WASH
Allie Quigley, G, CHI
Tierra Ruffin-Pratt, GF, LA
Jasmine Thomas, G, CONN
Kayla Thornton, F, DALL
Brianna Turner, F, PHOE

NYSPORTS56
Natalie Achonwa, FC, IND
Ariel Atkins, G, WASH
Seimone Augustus, G, MIN
Jessica Breland, F, ATL
Napheesa Collier, F, MIN
Rashanda Gray, F, NY
Tiffany Hayes, G, ATL
Azura Stevens, FC, DALL
Erica Wheeler, G, IND
A'ja Wilson, F, LV

TOAD455
Monique Billings, F, ATL
DeWanna Bonner, F, PHOE
Jordin Canada, G, SEA
Tina Charles, C, NY
Sydney Colson, G, LV
Temi Fagbenle, C, MIN
Crystal Langhorne, FC, SEA
Lellani Mitchell, G, PHOE
Renee Montgomery, G, ATL
Kristi Toliver, G, WASH

WNBA 09
Alex Bentley, G, ATL
Natasha Cloud, G, WASH
Stephanie Dolson, C, CHI
Allisha Gray, G, DALL
Glory Johnson, F, DALL
Aerial Powers, F, WASH
Mercedes Russell, C, SEA
Alyssa Thomas, F, CONN
Courtney Vandersloot, G, CHI
Amanda Zahui B, C, NY



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RULES
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SCHEDULE
Full Schedule

DRAFT
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[Admiral_Needa]

I'm in...

Last time I had a great draft but finished last in Turnovers... I wonder why...

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CP3 was my #1 Pick!

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2002 WNBA Virtual GM Overall Winner
2006 WNBA Triple Threat Overall Winner
2007 NBA ESPN Fast Break Overall Winner

[adamj95]

Count me in.

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4 time WNBA Champion, 3rd all time in Assists, Minnesota's own: LINDSAY WHALEN.

[Mojo]

[NYSports56]

[NYSports56]

[pilight]

With basketball you can do a positionless game. Just pick five players each day/week/whatever.

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I'm a lonely frog
I ain't got a home

[Mojo]

[NYSports56]

[Shades]

Just go by what the roster says. Then the better fantasy GM's will research and plan things out better.

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Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned

[NYSports56]

[Mojo]

Looking at last years rosters.
There are several listed by the WNBA at F-C and several at F-G.
An iteresting listing is Della Donne at F-G.
Minnesota's roster would not pull up to see how they are listed.

[NYSports56]

ROSTER STUFF:

Typically fantasy leagues feature a roster of least double the number players needed to start. I'm going to suggest that our rosters have 12 players each: the number of players each team dresses each game.

Any more than 12 and I think we'll have issues with talent depth. With only 12 teams to choose from (most mens sports leagues have more like 30), we're going to seriously be going deep into benches, especially if there are a lot of people playing. It's a little more fun if there is quality on your bench, because there are more real choices when that is the case.

Any less than 12 and I think we'll have issues with roster flexibility because of the way I think we are going to have to limit transactions.

The reason we have to limit transactions is that we are doing this all by hand. If we allow unlimited transaction, experience shows that people will be tweaking their rosters left and right. It will be too hard for most players to keep track of who is available and who is not. I don't want to run into the situation where two teams both think they have the same player.

We must either limit the number add/drops to 1 or 2 a week, or give a team a certain number of add/drops for the entire season.

When a player goes to the injured reserve list in the WNBA, we will allow her team to place her on I/R in our league, and to replace her with an unclaimed player. This will not count as an add/drop. When the injured player is taken off I/R, the replacement player must be dropped, unless the team owner wants to spend an add/drop to drop a different player.

Minor injuries that keep a player out for a game or two will require you to keep her on your roster. This is another reason I feel we need at least 12 players on each team.

Trades are another matter. Trades are fun. They also ruin leagues when they get out of control and one team winds up with 9 of the 10 starters in the All-Star game. For this reason, and also for the above mentioned difficulty in keeping track of things when running by hand, there needs to be some kind of cap on the trading. Each player acquired by trade could count as an add/drop, or we could treat it as a separate thing. We'll have to decide.

[NYSports56]

[NYSports56]

I've been checking around, and have not been able to find anything that definitely lists players at any one position. Every depth chart I find lists players at more than one position; actually moreso than the listings on the WNBA site.

There really aren't that many players who have double listings from the teams that I looked at. Although I don't like it, I think we are going to have to declare that players listed that way are able to play both positions, so they are a bit more valuable than they would normally be. Again, draft accordingly.

[Admiral_Needa]

[WNBA 09]

Im in!

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[NYSports56]

OK, so far we've got:

NYSports56
Admiral_Needa
adamj95
WNBA_09
mojo (you said you were interested--does that mean you're in?)

I think we're going to have to cap the league at 8 players. When I listed 10 as a max, I was thinking for some reason that the WNBA had 14 teams. With just 12 teams, I think 8 is the max, which is plenty diluted as it is. Games are more exciting to watch when the fantasy players involved are the focus of the action, rather than side notes. In a diluted league, you have more of those minor players involved.

It's also beneficial to have a pool of unclaimed players that offer legitimate help to players who need them. Even with just 8 teams, I'm thinking the pool won't be as strong as desired.

[Mojo]

Yes I will give it a try.
So has a decision been made how many starters per position and what source will determine positions?
When will you address draft date, rules, players per team, pickups, etc?

[NYSports56]

All the decisions are yet to be made, Mojo. This idea's only 24 hours old.

I've been throwing around my ideas, but I want to wait and see who's playing and what they think about all of this before anything is finalized. Here's what I've got so far:

The starting lineups will be comprised of 2 guards, 2 forwards, and 1 center. If the majority of the league members prefer, we can add a flex spot to make a 6th player. My vote's against it, but I have no problem being overruled on this.

As for position designation, I think we should use the ones on the WNBA site.

The draft will begin very soon after the WNBA has its own draft. It is not realistic to expect the entire draft to be completed in one session where everyone is there. It just needs to be finished by the time the WNBA season starts. In order to meet that pace, people will have to make 1 pick every 3 days on the average. How we accomplish that depends on what everyone wants to do and how compatable everyone's availablilty is.

Players per team is going to be 12.

The number of pickups allowed is still to be determined. I gave my thoughts in an earlier post, I'd like to hear what other people think before I finalize anything.

[Mojo]

I may have to pass. Health issues could conflict with draft.

[NYSports56]

Sorry to hear that, mojo. If there's a draft format that you think would be possible for you, let me know.

[NYSports56]

LINEUPS:

As stated above, each week, a team will field a starting lineup of 5 players, consisting of 2 guards, 2 forwards, and 1 center (and perhaps one additional "flex" player, subject to league vote).

After the rosters are set, each entrant should post a default starting lineup here in the thread, for use any time they forget to post one for the specific week.

At the start of the week, players should post their lineup. If it's different than the default, mention it in the post. Also, say whether or not it's your new default lineup.

Players will earn points based upon their first game of the week.

Lineups can be changed at any time, provided that it is done before the start time of the game of the player(s) being replaced. The replacement player must be yet to play her first game of the week.

There is one issue that we should consider: what to do when a player who is expected to play doesn't (in other words, they're listed as a "DNP" on the box score because they didn't play any minutes).

There are four ways I think we could address this:

1) Do nothing. Those are the breaks. It's no different than starting a player who injures her ankle leaping for the opening jump ball.

2) Allow a substitution for such a player, but only if the substitute has not played her first game of the week.

3) Allow a substitution for the player, and you are permitted to use a player who has played her first game of the week if she has a second game still to play (you would use that game to determine her points earned).

4) Have each team keep a depth chart, and automatically consult the depth chart for the replacement. If the replacement player has already played, you still get to use the points she earned that first game.

1) is the easiest option. Cruel but fair.
2) is good, but somewhat inflexible. If the DNP's game is late in the week, there may be nothing you can do.
3) offers more flexibility, but there will still be times that there is nothing you can do. In addition, there is the possibility for abuse: you can start a player you know won't play so that you can take advantage of a better matchup in the substitute's second game. This probably isn't the best option.
4) requires more work for everyone maintaining their depth charts. Also, I think I would personally find it annoying to have a player score points retroactively. Perhaps you don't watch a game because there's no fantasy interest, and then suddenly you learn that your fantasy opponent got 20 points from the game. Not for me, but a lot of fantasy players do like this.

Interested in everyone's thoughts on all of this, especially the league members. I personally like option 2.

[Mojo]

[NYSports56]

I was looking at the WNBA schedule, and I think the following weekly format will be the one we use:

Each week (except one) will begin on Monday and last through Sunday. It looks like there are no games whatsoever on Monday this year, so that seems to be the logical way to group things. It appears to me that every team plays every week, with one exception: the week of the All-Star game. Chicago and Dallas don't play that week. Because of that, the week following the All-Star game will begin on Wednesday instead of Monday. That way Chicago and Dallas can use the Tuesday games to complete the previous week's action.

The WNBA season is 17 weeks long, just like an NFL season. Most NFL fantasy leagues do not use the final week at all, because starters are often rested and it's a shame to use such a week for the final championship game. I think we should do that as well, and so we will have a 16 week season, including playoffs.

There will be 3 or 4 weeks of playoffs at the end, depending on the number of players. So it's either a 12 or 13 game regular season.

That's the sensible way to do it, I think. But it does occur to me that starting on Monday has one possible drawback: most of the games that matter to our league will be played on weekdays rather than weekends. If the league members tend to watch and follow the league more on the weekends, the fun factor might be higher if the weekend games mattered more. I'm still planning on starting the weeks on Monday, but I'm just throwing my thoughts out there in case the league members feel it should start on the weekends.