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PostPosted: 04/02/19 4:03 am    ::: Rebkell Fantasy Basketball League Reply Reply with quote

REBKELL FANTASY BASKETBALL LEAGUE

Next Week's Games
adamj95 (2-7) vs. toad455 (6-3)
Admiral Needa (4-5) vs. Mojo/myrtle (7-2)
calbearman76/tbinta (5-4) vs. Erimus (0-9)
hoopmom (4-5) vs. NYSports56 (5-4)
J-Spoon (6-3) vs. WNBA 09 (6-3)

Code:
        STANDINGS
                     W  L    Pts
Mojo/myrtle          7  2  1197.0
toad455              6  3  1173.3
J-Spoon              6  3  1148.4
WNBA 09              6  3  1147.0
calbearman76/tbinta  5  4  1017.1
NYSports56           5  4   999.1
hoopmom              4  5  1224.7
Admiral Needa        4  5  1165.0
adamj95              2  7   852.7
Erimus               0  9   856.9

This Week's Games
hoopmom (4-5) 151.1, adamj95 (2-7) 133.0 (FINAL)
NYSports56 (5-4) 125.1, Admiral Needa (4-5) 114.6 (FINAL)
calbearman76/tbinta (5-4) 101.3, toad455 (6-3) 83.0 (FINAL)
WNBA 09 (6-3) 112.9, Erimus (0-9) 91.0 (FINAL)
J-Spoon (6-3) 157.0, Mojo/myrtle (7-2) 105.5 (FINAL)

BOX SCORES
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hoopmom 151.1, adamj95 133.0 (FINAL)

ADAMJ95 (2-7)
21.2 - Lexie Brown, G, MIN (20 Pts, 1 Reb)
11.5 - Briann January, G, PHOE (2 Pts, 5 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 TO)
25.2 - Chiney Ogwumike, FC, LA (12 Pts, 6 Reb, 2 Ast, 1 Stl)
59.5 - Elena Delle Donne, GF, WASH (28 Pts, 15 Reb, 1 Ast, 4 Blk)
15.6 - LaToya Sanders, FC, WASH (8 Pts, 3 Reb, 2 Ast, 1 Blk, 2 TO)
133.0

HOOPMOM (4-5)
15.2 - Odyssey Sims, G, MIN (5 Pts, 1 Reb, 6 Ast, 1 Stl, 3 TO)
33.8 - Chelsea Gray, G, LA (11 Pts, 9 Reb, 4 Ast, 3 Stl, 3 TO)
56.4 - Natasha Howard, F, SEA (33 Pts, 7 Reb, 2 Ast, 2 Stl, 3 Blk, 3 TO)
22.0 - Candice Dupree, F, IND (8 Pts, 10 Reb, 2 Ast, 1 TO)
23.7 - Imani McGee-Stafford, C, DALL (6 Pts, 11 Reb, 1 Ast, 1 Stl)
151.1

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NYSports56 125.1, Admiral Needa 114.6 (FINAL)

ADMIRAL NEEDA (4-5)
17.7 - Kayla McBride, G, LV (11 Pts, 1 Reb, 1 Ast, 2 Stl, 2 TO)
19.9 - Kia Nurse, G, NY (14 Pts, 2 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 TO)
33.4 - Sami Whitcomb, GF, SEA (15 Pts, 2 Reb, 8 Ast, 2 Stl, 1 Blk, 5 TO)
38.8 - Jonquel Jones, FC, CONN (12 Pts, 9 Reb, 2 Ast, 3 Stl, 2 Blk, 2 TO)
4.8 - Teaira McCowan, C, IND (2 Pts, 4 Reb, 2 TO)
114.6

NYSPORTS56 (5-4)
30.9 - Erica Wheeler, G, IND (18 Pts, 7 Reb, 5 Ast, 3 TO)
20.6 - Tiffany Hayes, G, ATL (16 Pts, 3 Reb, 2 Ast, 2 TO)
18.3 - Napheesa Collier, F, MIN (8 Pts, 4 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 Stl, 2 TO)
21.4 - A'ja Wilson, F, LV (5 Pts, 2 Reb, 2 Ast, 2 Stl, 2 Blk, 1 TO)
33.9 - Natalie Achonwa, FC, IND (16 Pts, 12 Reb, 1 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 TO)
125.1

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calbearman76/tbinta 101.3, toad455 83.0 (FINAL)

CALBEARMAN76/TBINTA (5-4)
16.9 - Betnijah Laney, G, IND (8 Pts, 2 Reb, 1 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 Blk, 1 TO)
23.3 - Courtney Williams, G, CONN (8 Pts, 4 Reb, 5 Ast, 1 Stl)
22.0 - Cheyenne Parker, F, CHI (4 Pts, 10 Reb, 2 Blk)
6.7 - Gabby Williams, F, CHI (5 Pts, 1 Reb, 1 Ast, 1 TO)
32.4 - Sylvia Fowles, C, MIN (16 Pts, 7 Reb, 4 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 TO)
101.3

TOAD455 (6-3)
16.5 - Lellani Mitchell, G, PHOE (7 Pts, 5 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 TO)
24.1 - Jordin Canada, G, SEA (12 Pts, 3 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 Blk, 2 TO)
25.6 - DeWanna Bonner, F, PHOE (10 Pts, 8 Reb, 4 Ast)
4.5 - Crystal Langhorne, FC, SEA (2 Pts, 1 Ast, 1 Stl, 2 TO)
12.3 - Tina Charles, C, NY (9 Pts, 4 Reb, 1 Ast, 3 TO)
83.0

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WNBA 09 112.9, Erimus 91.0 (FINAL)

ERIMUS (0-9)
0.0 - Diana Taurasi, G, PHOE (0 Pts)
29.0 - Brittney Sykes, G, ATL (7 Pts, 10 Reb, 6 Ast, 1 Stl, 2 TO)
38.9 - Nneka Ogwumike, F, LA (22 Pts, 7 Reb, 3 Ast, 2 Stl, 2 TO)
8.6 - Tianna Hawkins, F, WASH (2 Pts, 3 Reb, 2 Ast)
14.5 - Kalani Brown, C, LA (5 Pts, 5 Reb, 1 Ast, 1 Blk, 1 TO)
91.0

WNBA 09 (6-3)
29.3 - Courtney Vandersloot, G, CHI (9 Pts, 4 Reb, 9 Ast, 2 Stl, 4 TO)
23.3 - Natasha Cloud, G, WASH (2 Pts, 4 Reb, 7 Ast, 2 Stl)
22.6 - Alyssa Thomas, F, CONN (11 Pts, 8 Reb, 2 Ast, 1 TO)
24.1 - Glory Johnson, F, DALL (10 Pts, 8 Reb, 1 Ast, 1 Stl)
13.6 - Amanda Zahui B, C, NY (7 Pts, 3 Reb, 1 Stl, 1 Blk, 3 TO)
112.9

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J-Spoon 157.0, Mojo/myrtle 105.5 (FINAL)

J-SPOON (6-3)
16.4 - Kelsey Plum, G, LV (10 Pts, 2 Reb, 2 Ast, 1 Blk, 2 TO)
40.6 - Diamond DeShields, G, CHI (22 Pts, 8 Reb, 4 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 Blk, 3 TO)
32.9 - Alysha Clark, F, SEA (12 Pts, 7 Reb, 3 Ast, 3 Stl, 1 TO)
22.8 - Elizabeth Williams, FC, ATL (13 Pts, 4 Reb, 2 Ast, 1 Stl, 1 TO)
44.3 - Liz Cambage, C, LV (16 Pts, 14 Reb, 3 Ast, 4 Blk, 5 TO)
157.0

MOJO/MYRTLE (7-2)
25.0 - Jasmine Thomas, G, CONN (14 Pts, 5 Reb, 4 Ast, 1 TO)
13.6 - Allie Quigley, G, CHI (10 Pts, 3 Reb, 1 Stl, 3 TO)
17.7 - Emma Meesseman, F, WASH (13 Pts, 1 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 TO)
17.8 - Kayla Thornton, F, DALL (9 Pts, 4 Reb, 2 Ast, 1 Stl, 2 TO)
31.4 - Brittney Griner, C, PHOE (23 Pts, 7 Reb, 1 Blk, 3 TO)
105.5


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ROSTERS

ADAMJ95
Sue Bird, G, SEA
Lexie Brown, G, MIN
Damiris Dantas, F, MIN
Elena Delle Donne, GF, WASH
Dearica Hamby, F, LV
Briann January, G, PHOE
Chiney Ogwumike, FC, LA
LaToya Sanders, FC, WASH
Riquna Williams, G, LA
Jackie Young, G, LV

ADMIRAL NEEDA
Isabelle Harrison, F, DALL
Jonquel Jones, FC, CONN
Kayla McBride, G, LV
Teaira McCowan, C, IND
Kia Nurse, G, NY
Arike Ogunbowale, G, DALL
Candace Parker, FC, LA
Danielle Robinson, G, MIN
Shatori Walker-Kimbrough, G, WASH
Sami Whitcomb, GF, SEA

CALBEARMAN76/TBINTA
Rebekkah Brunson, F, MIN
Sylvia Fowles, C, MIN
Betnijah Laney, G, IND
Jewell Loyd, G, SEA
Sancho Lyttle, F, PHOE
Cheyenne Parker, F, CHI
Theresa Plaisance, FC, DALL
Katie Lou Samuelson, GF, CHI
Courtney Williams, G, CONN
Gabby Williams, F, CHI

ERIMUS
Brittany Boyd, G, NY
Kalani Brown, C, LA
Kennedy Burke, G, IND
Asia Durr, G, NY
Bria Hartley, G, NY
Tianna Hawkins, F, WASH
Marina Mabrey, G, LA
Nneka Ogwumike, F, LA
Brittney Sykes, G, ATL
Diana Taurasi, G, PHOE

HOOPMOM
Essence Carson, G, PHOE
Candice Dupree, F, IND
Chelsea Gray, G, LA
Marie Gulich, C, ATL
Natasha Howard, F, SEA
Imani McGee-Stafford, C, DALL
Kelsey Mitchell, G, IND
Odyssey Sims, G, MIN
Maria Vadeeva, FC, LA
Tamera Young, F, LV

J-SPOON
Liz Cambage, C, LV
Alysha Clark, F, SEA
Nia Coffey, F, ATL
Kahleah Copper, GF, CHI
Diamond DeShields, G, CHI
Tiffany Mitchell, G, IND
Kelsey Plum, G, LV
Shekinna Stricklen, GF, CONN
Carolyn Swords, C, LV
Elizabeth Williams, FC, ATL

MOJO/MYRTLE
Skylar Diggins-Smith, G, DALL
Brittney Griner, C, PHOE
Shenise Johnson, G, IND
Jantel Lavender, FC, CHI
Angel McCoughtry, GF, ATL
Emma Meesseman, F, WASH
Allie Quigley, G, CHI
Tierra Ruffin-Pratt, GF, LA
Jasmine Thomas, G, CONN
Kayla Thornton, F, DALL

NYSPORTS56
Natalie Achonwa, FC, IND
Rebecca Allen, G, NY
Ariel Atkins, G, WASH
Jessica Breland, F, ATL
Napheesa Collier, F, MIN
Rashanda Gray, F, NY
Tiffany Hayes, G, ATL
Azura Stevens, FC, DALL
Erica Wheeler, G, IND
A'ja Wilson, F, LV

TOAD455
Monique Billings, F, ATL
DeWanna Bonner, F, PHOE
Jordin Canada, G, SEA
Tina Charles, C, NY
Sydney Colson, G, LV
Crystal Langhorne, FC, SEA
Lellani Mitchell, G, PHOE
Renee Montgomery, G, ATL
Kristi Toliver, G, WASH
Cecilia Zandaslasini, F, MIN

WNBA 09
Alex Bentley, G, ATL
Natasha Cloud, G, WASH
Stephanie Dolson, C, CHI
Allisha Gray, G, DALL
Glory Johnson, F, DALL
Aerial Powers, F, WASH
Mercedes Russell, C, SEA
Alyssa Thomas, F, CONN
Courtney Vandersloot, G, CHI
Amanda Zahui B, C, NY


Week 9 Waiver Wire Priority
1 - Erimus
2 - adamj95
3 - hoopmom
4 - NYSports56
5 - calbearman76/tbinta
6 - Admiral Needa
7 - J-Spoon
8 - WNBA 09
9 - toad455
10 - Mojo/myrtle

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RULES
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SCHEDULE
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DRAFT
Complete Draft List

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PostPosted: 04/02/19 4:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm in... Razz Cool

Last time I had a great draft but finished last in Turnovers... I wonder why... Idea Arrow


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Count me in.



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PostPosted: 04/02/19 2:01 pm    ::: Re: Rebkell WNBA Fantasy LEAGUE Reply Reply with quote

NYSports56 wrote:
(not to be confused with the Rebkell Fantasy WNBA draft thread)

Hi! In the above mentioned thread, there seemed to be some interest in an actual WNBA fantasy basketball league, so I thought I'd step up and volunteer to run it.

Although I have never run a fantasy league, I have played in them and extensive experience running other types of leagues. I ran several Strat-o-Matic baseball leagues in the past, including an 8-10 team league that lasted for more than 10 years. I have also run numerous leagues for various boardgames, including one that played four 16 game seasons a year (plus playoffs) for over 15 years. The point is, I'm not going to start this and walk away.

I am envisioning a league of 4-10 teams. Each team will draft a full roster of players as in the typical fantasy league. We'll have the time between the WNBA draft and the start of the regular season to get our teams drafted. Details on how we'll do that will be determined once we know who the players are and what their availability is.

Each week, each team will be paired with an opponent to play head to head. Each team will start a team of 5 players: 2 guards, 2 forwards, and 1 center. Each player will earn points based on her performance in her team's first game of the week only.

The NBA has an official scoring system for fantasy basketball, and I believe it is also used on daily fantasy websites. Unless people disagree, I think we should use it too:

Points: 1
Rebounds: 1.2
Assists: 1.5
Steals: 3
Blocks: 3
Turnovers: -1

We will have to come up with a way to determine the positions of players. If there is an official listing on the WNBA site, we should use that. If not, perhaps we can use the listings of a daily fantasy site to make our official position designations.

There's a whole lot more to be determined, but I think this will do for now as a first post to see who's interested and to start some discussion about some of the league details.

So who wants to play?


I am interested. About the only concern I have is which position the players are listed by the WNBA. EXAMPLE: Plaisance for Dallas is listed as a forward if they lose Cambage, Plaisance could end up starting as a center and yet George (as of right now) would be the listed center but possibly playing few mpg. For the Sparks. Parker and Ogwumike at approx 30mpg are listed as forwards and Lavender at 17mpg is the center and so it could mean drafting and starting a 17mpg center and having a 30mpg player on the bench. Any thoughts? Are there problems with other fantasy basketball leagues concerning positions? I don't know.


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Admiral_Needa wrote:
[color=darkred]I'm in... Razz Cool

Last time I had a great draft but finished last in Turnovers... I wonder why... Idea Arrow


Welcome, Admiral! I just wanted to mention that this is not a "rotisserie" style fantasy league as it seems your last one was. Rather than competing in a season-long competition to see who can finish best in each category, there will be head to head competition each week, and each team will compile a Win/Loss record as in a regular sports league. There will be playoffs at the end.


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PostPosted: 04/02/19 7:10 pm    ::: Re: Rebkell WNBA Fantasy LEAGUE Reply Reply with quote

Mojo wrote:

I am interested. About the only concern I have is which position the players are listed by the WNBA. EXAMPLE: Plaisance for Dallas is listed as a forward if they lose Cambage, Plaisance could end up starting as a center and yet George (as of right now) would be the listed center but possibly playing few mpg. For the Sparks. Parker and Ogwumike at approx 30mpg are listed as forwards and Lavender at 17mpg is the center and so it could mean drafting and starting a 17mpg center and having a 30mpg player on the bench. Any thoughts? Are there problems with other fantasy basketball leagues concerning positions? I don't know.


I don't know about fantasy basketball, but this issue does come up in fantasy football every now and then. A player is a lot more valuable if he's listed as a tight end than if he's listed at wide receiver, because there aren't that many high scoring tight ends. These days, there are a lot of borderline cases where it's hard to determine exactly what position a player plays. Running backs score more points than wide receiver, so when a WR plays running back (such as Ty Montgomery of the Packers or Cordarelle Patterson of the Patriots), he becomes far more valuable. If you can start a player who is listed as a WR who will be scoring RB points, you can still start two other running backs.

I am told the problem is much worse in leagues that record scoring for individual defensive players (IDP). Apparently, the designation of linebacker vs. defensive lineman (which is very unclear for edge rushers) is extremely important to determine the value of the player.

There's really not much you can do about this; you just have to come up with a method for determining what the player's position is, and whatever that method says, you stick to it. If Plaisance is listed as a forward, you've got to start her at forward, regardless of the position she plays on the court. You get the points no matter where she plays, but you need to start a different center.

Once we determine what our source is for player positions, the only thing we need to do is determine what happens if the listing changes mid-season (this doesn't happen all that frequently in my experience with fantasy football). We can either do nothing and sitck with the original position for the rest of the season, or we can adapt to the changes and have the player switch positions for the purposes of our league.

The advantage of sticking with the original position is that plans don't get ruined, and it's less confusing. However, since rosters can be updated, the question of what do do with newly acquired players whose designation has changed midseason is troublesome. How do you know a player's position at the start of the season when you acquire them midseason? You could use the position listed at the time of acquisition, but then what about players who get dropped and later acquired? It's a bit of a can of worms.

I think the preferable way is to have a player switch positions when it's called for. Teams will have to adapt when this happens, but it shouldn't be too frequent. The only problem with this is, how do we know a change has happened? Plaisance is listed as a center to start, but what if her listing changes to forward? How are we going to know? On an automated fantasy site it would be easy, because they'd no longer let you ctart her at center. But we're doing this by hand--the only way we'll know is if someone checks and realizes that a player is listed differently than they were before.

So both methods have plusses and minuses: this is the type of issue that we should let the majority of the league entrants decide. However we choose, there will be a single position that each player can play, for better or worse.


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With basketball you can do a positionless game. Just pick five players each day/week/whatever.



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PostPosted: 04/02/19 7:49 pm    ::: Re: Rebkell WNBA Fantasy LEAGUE Reply Reply with quote

NYSports56 wrote:
Mojo wrote:

I am interested. About the only concern I have is which position the players are listed by the WNBA. EXAMPLE: Plaisance for Dallas is listed as a forward if they lose Cambage, Plaisance could end up starting as a center and yet George (as of right now) would be the listed center but possibly playing few mpg. For the Sparks. Parker and Ogwumike at approx 30mpg are listed as forwards and Lavender at 17mpg is the center and so it could mean drafting and starting a 17mpg center and having a 30mpg player on the bench. Any thoughts? Are there problems with other fantasy basketball leagues concerning positions? I don't know.


I don't know about fantasy basketball, but this issue does come up in fantasy football every now and then. A player is a lot more valuable if he's listed as a tight end than if he's listed at wide receiver, because there aren't that many high scoring tight ends. These days, there are a lot of borderline cases where it's hard to determine exactly what position a player plays. Running backs score more points than wide receiver, so when a WR plays running back (such as Ty Montgomery of the Packers or Cordarelle Patterson of the Patriots), he becomes far more valuable. If you can start a player who is listed as a WR who will be scoring RB points, you can still start two other running backs.

I am told the problem is much worse in leagues that record scoring for individual defensive players (IDP). Apparently, the designation of linebacker vs. defensive lineman (which is very unclear for edge rushers) is extremely important to determine the value of the player.

There's really not much you can do about this; you just have to come up with a method for determining what the player's position is, and whatever that method says, you stick to it. If Plaisance is listed as a forward, you've got to start her at forward, regardless of the position she plays on the court. You get the points no matter where she plays, but you need to start a different center.

Once we determine what our source is for player positions, the only thing we need to do is determine what happens if the listing changes mid-season (this doesn't happen all that frequently in my experience with fantasy football). We can either do nothing and sitck with the original position for the rest of the season, or we can adapt to the changes and have the player switch positions for the purposes of our league.

The advantage of sticking with the original position is that plans don't get ruined, and it's less confusing. However, since rosters can be updated, the question of what do do with newly acquired players whose designation has changed midseason is troublesome. How do you know a player's position at the start of the season when you acquire them midseason? You could use the position listed at the time of acquisition, but then what about players who get dropped and later acquired? It's a bit of a can of worms.

I think the preferable way is to have a player switch positions when it's called for. Teams will have to adapt when this happens, but it shouldn't be too frequent. The only problem with this is, how do we know a change has happened? Plaisance is listed as a center to start, but what if her listing changes to forward? How are we going to know? On an automated fantasy site it would be easy, because they'd no longer let you ctart her at center. But we're doing this by hand--the only way we'll know is if someone checks and realizes that a player is listed differently than they were before.

So both methods have plusses and minuses: this is the type of issue that we should let the majority of the league entrants decide. However we choose, there will be a single position that each player can play, for better or worse.


Plaisance did go from forward to center the year Paris was hurt. But don't know if the official listing changed. I will throw out this for discussion:
How do other leagues do it?
What about 3 center/forwards, two guards, or like already mentioned, 5 starters any position.
I haven't played fantasy basketball. How many reserves or pickups allowed?


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PostPosted: 04/02/19 7:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
With basketball you can do a positionless game. Just pick five players each day/week/whatever.

You could certainly do that, but I'd rather not. It's more immersive if you're using genuine positions, and also more interesting running your team when you've got to think about the positions. If Brittany Griner plays for your team and is injured, you can't replace her with Brittany Boyd--you have to either use your backup center or acquire one.

Also, if it turns out that one position consistently outscores another (I have no experience with fantasy basketball, so I don't know if this is the case), it could turn out that every team is stocked with, say guards, and that another position is barely represented in the league.

I don't think this position thing is going to be a major issue at all. We just have to decide how we will do things and move on from there.


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Just go by what the roster says. Then the better fantasy GM's will research and plan things out better.



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PostPosted: 04/02/19 8:08 pm    ::: Re: Rebkell WNBA Fantasy LEAGUE Reply Reply with quote

Mojo wrote:

Plaisance did go from forward to center the year Paris was hurt. But don't know if the official listing changed. I will throw out this for discussion:
How do other leagues do it?
What about 3 center/forwards, two guards, or like already mentioned, 5 starters any position.
I haven't played fantasy basketball. How many reserves or pickups allowed?

I can't speak for basketball, but most fantasy baseball and football leagues are position-specific, and only allow players to start if they are listed at the position. There are some leagues that use what is called a "flex" player, and that player can be from any position. But that is almost always in addition to a regular lineup that features players playing at their listed position.

Using the Plaisance example, if her official listing never changed, you wouldn't be able to change and use her at center. But that would probably be more convenient for you anyway; to draft her as a forward and then be forced to use her at center could really disrupt your team's plans if you already have a superstar at center.

Again, in my experience, this doesn't happen very often, so when it does, it's just one of those obstacles you have to deal with in a fantasy season, just like injuries and trades. We don't need to blur the center and forward position together any more than we need to combine guards and forwards due to players like Kia Nurse who sometimes plays the 2 and sometimes plays the 3. Whatever she's listed at, that's where she's playing in our league. Draft accordingly.

As for how many reserves and pickups are allowed, I think I'm going to make a separate post for that issue. Stay tuned.


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PostPosted: 04/02/19 10:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Looking at last years rosters.
There are several listed by the WNBA at F-C and several at F-G.
An iteresting listing is Della Donne at F-G.
Minnesota's roster would not pull up to see how they are listed.


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PostPosted: 04/02/19 10:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ROSTER STUFF:

Typically fantasy leagues feature a roster of least double the number players needed to start. I'm going to suggest that our rosters have 12 players each: the number of players each team dresses each game.

Any more than 12 and I think we'll have issues with talent depth. With only 12 teams to choose from (most mens sports leagues have more like 30), we're going to seriously be going deep into benches, especially if there are a lot of people playing. It's a little more fun if there is quality on your bench, because there are more real choices when that is the case.

Any less than 12 and I think we'll have issues with roster flexibility because of the way I think we are going to have to limit transactions.

The reason we have to limit transactions is that we are doing this all by hand. If we allow unlimited transaction, experience shows that people will be tweaking their rosters left and right. It will be too hard for most players to keep track of who is available and who is not. I don't want to run into the situation where two teams both think they have the same player.

We must either limit the number add/drops to 1 or 2 a week, or give a team a certain number of add/drops for the entire season.

When a player goes to the injured reserve list in the WNBA, we will allow her team to place her on I/R in our league, and to replace her with an unclaimed player. This will not count as an add/drop. When the injured player is taken off I/R, the replacement player must be dropped, unless the team owner wants to spend an add/drop to drop a different player.

Minor injuries that keep a player out for a game or two will require you to keep her on your roster. This is another reason I feel we need at least 12 players on each team.

Trades are another matter. Trades are fun. They also ruin leagues when they get out of control and one team winds up with 9 of the 10 starters in the All-Star game. For this reason, and also for the above mentioned difficulty in keeping track of things when running by hand, there needs to be some kind of cap on the trading. Each player acquired by trade could count as an add/drop, or we could treat it as a separate thing. We'll have to decide.


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PostPosted: 04/02/19 10:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Mojo wrote:
Looking at last years rosters.
There are several listed by the WNBA at F-C and several at F-G.
An iteresting listing is Della Donne at F-G.
Minnesota's roster would not pull up to see how they are listed.

That is not good. I don't like the idea of allowing players who are listed that way to give their owners a choice, although you could do it that way.

If that is the way the WNBA lists things, we may have to use a daily online fantasy source instead. I'll look into that, but my feeling is that we won't have that information until right before the WNBA season starts.

Any other ideas for how we could decide?


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I've been checking around, and have not been able to find anything that definitely lists players at any one position. Every depth chart I find lists players at more than one position; actually moreso than the listings on the WNBA site.

There really aren't that many players who have double listings from the teams that I looked at. Although I don't like it, I think we are going to have to declare that players listed that way are able to play both positions, so they are a bit more valuable than they would normally be. Again, draft accordingly.


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Mojo wrote:
Looking at last years rosters.
There are several listed by the WNBA at F-C and several at F-G.
An iteresting listing is Della Donne at F-G.
Minnesota's roster would not pull up to see how they are listed.


Some other interesting listings include... Idea Arrow


Quote:
Jonquel Jones F
Isabelle Harrison F
Tina Charles C
Natasha Howard F
Angel McCoughtry F-G
Elizabeth Williams C-F
Diamond DeShields G
Shocked


And there are a number of players that have dual listings... For example, Evelyn Akhator is currently listed as a F-C on the Sky's website, but only as a F on the WNBA.com site.


Quote:
ESPN's Policy: Idea Arrow

ESPN uses several subjective criteria to determine additional eligibility. Among those are:

- How often the player touches the ball
- Where the player's shots usually come from
- Defensive assignments
- Who else is on the floor when the player is in the game
- Injuries on the team (temporary or long term injury)
- Where the player is usually positioned in the offensive sets


http://www.espn.com/fantasy/basketball/fba/story?page=fbarulesrosterscustom2009



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Im in!



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OK, so far we've got:

NYSports56
Admiral_Needa
adamj95
WNBA_09
mojo (you said you were interested--does that mean you're in?)

I think we're going to have to cap the league at 8 players. When I listed 10 as a max, I was thinking for some reason that the WNBA had 14 teams. With just 12 teams, I think 8 is the max, which is plenty diluted as it is. Games are more exciting to watch when the fantasy players involved are the focus of the action, rather than side notes. In a diluted league, you have more of those minor players involved.

It's also beneficial to have a pool of unclaimed players that offer legitimate help to players who need them. Even with just 8 teams, I'm thinking the pool won't be as strong as desired.


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PostPosted: 04/03/19 1:06 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yes I will give it a try.
So has a decision been made how many starters per position and what source will determine positions?
When will you address draft date, rules, players per team, pickups, etc?


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All the decisions are yet to be made, Mojo. This idea's only 24 hours old. Smile

I've been throwing around my ideas, but I want to wait and see who's playing and what they think about all of this before anything is finalized. Here's what I've got so far:

The starting lineups will be comprised of 2 guards, 2 forwards, and 1 center. If the majority of the league members prefer, we can add a flex spot to make a 6th player. My vote's against it, but I have no problem being overruled on this.

As for position designation, I think we should use the ones on the WNBA site.

The draft will begin very soon after the WNBA has its own draft. It is not realistic to expect the entire draft to be completed in one session where everyone is there. It just needs to be finished by the time the WNBA season starts. In order to meet that pace, people will have to make 1 pick every 3 days on the average. How we accomplish that depends on what everyone wants to do and how compatable everyone's availablilty is.

Players per team is going to be 12.

The number of pickups allowed is still to be determined. I gave my thoughts in an earlier post, I'd like to hear what other people think before I finalize anything.


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PostPosted: 04/04/19 9:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I may have to pass. Health issues could conflict with draft.


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Sorry to hear that, mojo. If there's a draft format that you think would be possible for you, let me know.


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LINEUPS:

As stated above, each week, a team will field a starting lineup of 5 players, consisting of 2 guards, 2 forwards, and 1 center (and perhaps one additional "flex" player, subject to league vote).

After the rosters are set, each entrant should post a default starting lineup here in the thread, for use any time they forget to post one for the specific week.

At the start of the week, players should post their lineup. If it's different than the default, mention it in the post. Also, say whether or not it's your new default lineup.

Players will earn points based upon their first game of the week.

Lineups can be changed at any time, provided that it is done before the start time of the game of the player(s) being replaced. The replacement player must be yet to play her first game of the week.

There is one issue that we should consider: what to do when a player who is expected to play doesn't (in other words, they're listed as a "DNP" on the box score because they didn't play any minutes).

There are four ways I think we could address this:

1) Do nothing. Those are the breaks. It's no different than starting a player who injures her ankle leaping for the opening jump ball.

2) Allow a substitution for such a player, but only if the substitute has not played her first game of the week.

3) Allow a substitution for the player, and you are permitted to use a player who has played her first game of the week if she has a second game still to play (you would use that game to determine her points earned).

4) Have each team keep a depth chart, and automatically consult the depth chart for the replacement. If the replacement player has already played, you still get to use the points she earned that first game.

1) is the easiest option. Cruel but fair.
2) is good, but somewhat inflexible. If the DNP's game is late in the week, there may be nothing you can do.
3) offers more flexibility, but there will still be times that there is nothing you can do. In addition, there is the possibility for abuse: you can start a player you know won't play so that you can take advantage of a better matchup in the substitute's second game. This probably isn't the best option.
4) requires more work for everyone maintaining their depth charts. Also, I think I would personally find it annoying to have a player score points retroactively. Perhaps you don't watch a game because there's no fantasy interest, and then suddenly you learn that your fantasy opponent got 20 points from the game. Not for me, but a lot of fantasy players do like this.

Interested in everyone's thoughts on all of this, especially the league members. I personally like option 2.


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PostPosted: 04/04/19 10:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

NYSports56 wrote:
Sorry to hear that, mojo. If there's a draft format that you think would be possible for you, let me know.


I guess I'm out. I could end up back in the hospital during the draft and I don't want to screw up the draft by not being able to draft when it's my turn.


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PostPosted: 04/06/19 3:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I was looking at the WNBA schedule, and I think the following weekly format will be the one we use:

Each week (except one) will begin on Monday and last through Sunday. It looks like there are no games whatsoever on Monday this year, so that seems to be the logical way to group things. It appears to me that every team plays every week, with one exception: the week of the All-Star game. Chicago and Dallas don't play that week. Because of that, the week following the All-Star game will begin on Wednesday instead of Monday. That way Chicago and Dallas can use the Tuesday games to complete the previous week's action.

The WNBA season is 17 weeks long, just like an NFL season. Most NFL fantasy leagues do not use the final week at all, because starters are often rested and it's a shame to use such a week for the final championship game. I think we should do that as well, and so we will have a 16 week season, including playoffs.

There will be 3 or 4 weeks of playoffs at the end, depending on the number of players. So it's either a 12 or 13 game regular season.

That's the sensible way to do it, I think. But it does occur to me that starting on Monday has one possible drawback: most of the games that matter to our league will be played on weekdays rather than weekends. If the league members tend to watch and follow the league more on the weekends, the fun factor might be higher if the weekend games mattered more. I'm still planning on starting the weeks on Monday, but I'm just throwing my thoughts out there in case the league members feel it should start on the weekends.


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