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PostPosted: 05/23/19 8:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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So with the league agreeing to boost salaries and agreed with the players' association to split revenue after league expenses 50-50 with the players, do some the 200 agree to play this coming season?

I doubt it. I think their issue is the business model itself. From what I have heard the collapse of the CWHL has them feeling snakebit, and they don't think the NWHL is long-term sustainable.


Even with the increase in pay, they would still be making sub-living wage (the new signings were for $11-12,000 per season). If they believed in the model moving forward and the path for growth, they might play for that in the short term. But they see something like the CWHL happening where they basically put in the work of a full-time professional athlete for part-time pay, while having to hold down a full time 9-5 job to pay their bills, and then instead of the better tomorrow that they were playing for the league just collapses with no warning.

They would rather find a committed angel investor with deep pockets and diverse and overlapping interests who is in it for the long haul (*cough* NHL *cough*).

If the NWHL wants to pull them back, that's what they need to bring to the table. They need to bring a realistic business plan that demonstrates long term stability, and the ability to offer a living wage salary in the next few years.



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PostPosted: 05/24/19 4:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The NWHL and it's current 5 teams have been re-signing players for the 2019-2020 season. So there's optimism they'll play.



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PostPosted: 05/24/19 9:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Oh, I have no doubt that they will play this year without the elite players. My comment was in regards to the 200 coming back into the fold.

To put the 200 in perspective, that would be like every player on a current WNBA roster, plus 4 of each team's training camp cuts, all deciding to sit out, and then running a league with what you have left.



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PostPosted: 05/30/19 5:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Statement from the league:

https://www.nwhl.zone/news_article/show/1024916



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PostPosted: 05/30/19 5:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It seems like Toronto & Montreal expansion are on hold. If the 200 that are sitting out decide to play in 2020-2021, the league might opt to double in size assuming the players get what they want.



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PostPosted: 05/30/19 10:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Good move on the part of the NWHL.

The are making it clear that they are not the ones standing in the way of the players getting their goal. So if those backers (like the NHL) that the players think are out there don't come forward, it can't be blamed on their existence. They have now literally said that they are willing to partner with, or even straight up happily fold to make room for a league that can offer women players full time wages and medical insurance.

So if this does end up being a pipe dream on the part of the players, the perception will likely be that the NWHL is doing everything they reasonably can, and should facilitate a reintegration of them back into the league much more smoothly with hopefully minimal lingering animosity.

And if there really is some sort of angel investor/backer out there, then this would open the door to what would hopefully be a smooth transition to a major unified North American Women's Hockey league with full time players.

Either way, you can tell it was done by people who actually care about the sport of women's hockey and truly want the best, no matter what that ends up being.



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PostPosted: 08/05/19 9:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

As expected, the NWHL will remain at 5 teams for the 2019-20 season. Their schedule was announced over the weekend. All expansion plans are on hold for now. Three teams are moving to different arenas for the upcoming season with the Connecticut Whale moving from Stamford to Danbury, the Buffalo Beauts moving to nearby Amherst (NY), and the Metropolitan Riveters moving from Newark to Monmouth Junction (NJ).

https://www.nwhl.zone/schedule/day/league_instance/97589?subseason=616884



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PostPosted: 09/05/19 7:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Twitch & NWHL agree on three-year deal.

https://www.nwhl.zone/news_article/show/1046632



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PostPosted: 09/05/19 7:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Twitch & NWHL agree on three-year deal.

https://www.nwhl.zone/news_article/show/1046632

That is amazing news.



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PostPosted: 11/14/19 10:33 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Women's hockey league gets new round of funding
Emily Kaplan (ESPN)

The NWHL now has a group of more than 20 investors, including Neil Leibman, a co-owner of MLB's Texas Rangers, Joel Leonoff, the vice chairman of the Paysafe Group, Michael Gilfillan, a former co-owner of the New Jersey Devils, Lee Heffernan, the founding partner of the W Agency and Matthew Arpano, managing director at Silvercrest Asset Management Group. According to the league, everyone who invested at the start, in 2015, is still with the league.

"The funding gives us the flexibility of either selling an expansion market or our league owning it at the outset," commissioner Dani Rylan said.


https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/28078070/women-hockey-league-gets-new-round-funding


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PostPosted: 11/14/19 10:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That's big. NWHL still hanging on. That news likely leads to expansion, even if those players still refuse to play for them. That group that is sitting out is basically waiting for the backing of the NHL before rejoining the league. Curious to see what the league looks like next season.



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PostPosted: 04/27/20 9:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The NWHL will hold their draft, virtually, this Tuesday & Wednesday evening at 7pm. The draft will be available on Twitter(Rounds 1 & 2).

https://www.nwhl.zone/news/2020-nwhl-draft-set-for-april-28-29

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Round 1: Toronto, Connecticut, Buffalo, Metropolitan, Minnesota, Boston
Round 2: Connecticut, Toronto, Buffalo, Metropolitan, Minnesota, Boston
Round 3: Connecticut, Buffalo, Toronto, Metropolitan, Minnesota, Boston
Round 4: Connecticut, Buffalo, Metropolitan, Toronto, Minnesota, Boston
Round 5: Connecticut, Buffalo, Connecticut*, Minnesota, Toronto, Boston



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PostPosted: 04/27/20 8:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

NWHL no has an Original Six....hopefully it doesn't take decades to expand past that like it did in the NHL.


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PostPosted: 04/27/20 8:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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NWHL no has an Original Six....hopefully it doesn't take decades to expand past that like it did in the NHL.


Doubtful, unless all of those players in the PWHPA still opt to sit out. Possibly in a few years we see the league expand into Montreal & Pittsburgh. Then maybe Chicago & Philadephia down the road. 10 teams should probably be the current goal.



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PostPosted: 04/28/20 8:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah---I can see the league pause at 6 for 4-5 years while they build the league and get the players back. A 10-team league would be good to get to and hold there for about 10 years before going to 12-16.

Of course, this all depends on the league not acting like other women's leagues and seemingly not giving a damn about marketing themselves.

There is plenty of money to be made from women's sports, but it isn't a build it and they will come situation. Leagues and teams have to work for it as there are many other competing pulls for the sports dollar. It can be done if the owners don't treat their teams like tax write-offs and actually work their markets. That hasn't proven the case for any league or team outside of the Portland Thorns on a consistent basis.


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PostPosted: 07/29/20 5:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

NWHL to start next season in January 2021.

https://thehockeywriters.com/nwhl-season-6-start-delayed-january-2021/



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PostPosted: 12/27/20 11:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://www.nwhl.zone/news/nwhl-isobel-cup-semifinal-and-final-live-on-nbcsn

NBCSN will be showing the Isobel cup playoffs and finals in February. The league is playing in a bubble in Lake Placid. Toronto joins the league this year.

Go Beauts.


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PostPosted: 03/18/21 12:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

NWHL expanding to Montreal next season.



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PostPosted: 09/07/21 6:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://twitter.com/Marisa_Ingemi/status/1435038525909438468

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News: The NWHL will be announcing a new league name tomorrow morning, per sources. The new name will be Professional Hockey Federation.



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PostPosted: 09/07/21 8:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Correction, Premiere Hockey Federation.

https://twitter.com/NWHL/status/1435229309669675009?s=19



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PostPosted: 01/18/22 10:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PHF announced salary cap and salaries to be doubled. League will expand for 2022-23 season with Montreal and a US city.

https://www.premierhockeyfederation.com/news/phf-propelled-by-game-changing-25m-investment



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PostPosted: 01/18/22 10:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So where do we all think the US based team will be that comes in with Montreal?

I could see Detroit and Chicago being front runners with an actual New York City team or a Cleveland or Cincinnati being in the running. Going for a Denver would be too soon as travel would be too great.

I'm picking Chicago. We shall see.


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PostPosted: 01/18/22 11:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think to help balance travel, Chicago seems best. Though their current schedule has a team play a back-to-back over the weekend. This new cap increase might also see some more games getting played.



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PostPosted: 01/22/22 5:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wasn't Pittsburgh supposed to be getting a team forever ago?


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PostPosted: 01/22/22 11:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

johnjohnW wrote:
Wasn't Pittsburgh supposed to be getting a team forever ago?


I do seem to recall Pittsburgh was in the talk of an expansion team. I would be good with both Pittsburgh and Philadelphia getting teams. So next 4 in of Montreal, Chicago, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia?


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