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calbearman76
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Posted: 03/11/19 2:58 pm ::: |
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PRballer wrote: |
Regardless of tonight’s outcome, do you have UCF in the field? Of course if they win they get in. :) |
I have them in and rate them slightly higher than Charlie Creme. While they have only 1 top 50 win (Quinnipiac), they also beat Villanova who just fell out. But what puts them in is that they have only 1 bad loss, the others are to UConn, Syracuse and Central Michigan. They have 5 top 100 wins, and while that might not be important evaluating a top 4 seed it does count when trying to get in. I expect a 9 seed if they lose tonight.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 03/11/19 3:32 pm ::: |
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calbearman76 wrote: |
PRballer wrote: |
Regardless of tonight’s outcome, do you have UCF in the field? Of course if they win they get in. |
I have them in and rate them slightly higher than Charlie Creme. While they have only 1 top 50 win (Quinnipiac), they also beat Villanova who just fell out. But what puts them in is that they have only 1 bad loss, the others are to UConn, Syracuse and Central Michigan. They have 5 top 100 wins, and while that might not be important evaluating a top 4 seed it does count when trying to get in. I expect a 9 seed if they lose tonight. |
So how does that get them in over, say, VaTech who also beat Nova, but in addition beat #18 Miami and #28 Rutgers and unlike UCF doesn't have a loss to the RPI 166 team or to any other 100+ team. Much better wins, no horrible losses. If UCF had played VT's ACC schedule, they'd easily have double digit losses too. UCF hasn't demonstrated they are capable of beating anyone with a pulse.
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pilight
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myrtle
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calbearman76
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Posted: 03/11/19 5:56 pm ::: |
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The comparison of UCF and Virginia Tech is intriguing. UCF played a more difficult non-conference schedule (NCSOS 37(UCF) 234 (VaT)), they have a better record 26-5 vs 20-11 despite a tougher overall SOS, 55 vs 69, and they are 15 in the RPI vs 75. On the other hand VaT has two good wins over Rutgers and Miami. For me the difference is the 4-0 record over the 51-100 vs 4-3 for Vat.. The quadrant 1 records are 1-4 vs 2-8., a push to me. And finally Virginia Tech was only 6-10 in conference, finishing in a tie for 10th. If wins were the only thing that mattered I would take Virginia Tech, but overall I like UCF
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myrtle
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Posted: 03/11/19 6:26 pm ::: |
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watching UCF today...of course it is v. UConn, but they look like a team VaTech would love to play a playin game against.
But...I really really don't like any team with a losing conference record, which is why I always say Tenn shouldn't be in. Actually it's just one of the reasons, but it's a big one!
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 03/11/19 6:33 pm ::: |
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calbearman76 wrote: |
The comparison of UCF and Virginia Tech is intriguing. UCF played a more difficult non-conference schedule (NCSOS 37(UCF) 234 (VaT)), they have a better record 26-5 vs 20-11 despite a tougher overall SOS, 55 vs 69, and they are 15 in the RPI vs 75. On the other hand VaT has two good wins over Rutgers and Miami. For me the difference is the 4-0 record over the 51-100 vs 4-3 for Vat.. The quadrant 1 records are 1-4 vs 2-8., a push to me. And finally Virginia Tech was only 6-10 in conference, finishing in a tie for 10th. If wins were the only thing that mattered I would take Virginia Tech, but overall I like UCF |
You overlooked UCF's loss to 166. That's worse than losing to any of those ACC teams. ZERO of UCF's conf wins were against tournament teams.
At least on the men's side they usually say they want to see that teams have demonstrated the ability to win games in the tournament. VT has done that; UCF has not.
BTW, UCF is in the process of getting its ass kicked again tonight.
And now their Q1 is 1-5.
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pilight
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Posted: 03/11/19 9:27 pm ::: |
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
ZERO of UCF's conf wins were against tournament teams |
Untrue! Quinnipiac is tournament bound, as is Mercer.
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purduefanatic
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Posted: 03/11/19 9:39 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
ArtBest23 wrote: |
ZERO of UCF's conf wins were against tournament teams |
Untrue! Quinnipiac is tournament bound, as is Mercer. |
I don't think Q-Pac or Mercer is in the AAC. If they were, they wouldn't be heading to the NCAA Tournament either.
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