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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 02/24/20 8:04 pm ::: |
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Joke if you want, but the precise heart condition of a 78 year old presidential candidate who has had a recent heart attack and two stent insertions is a far more important voting factor, for most reasonable people, than weight or tax returns.
Trump has disclosed his complete 2018 and 2019 physical exam results. According to them, he's 6-3 and weighed 239 in 2018 and 243 in 2019. His left ventricle ejection fraction is 60%-65%, perfectly normal. In 2018 he got a perfect score on the Montreal Cognitive Assessment, 30/30.
Perhaps Howee would enlighten us on what specific tax return data would change his vote if he saw Trump's 1040 return, and what 1040 factors influenced his voting preference as he (hypothetically) scrutinized the tax returns of Clinton and Sanders in 2016 and those of all the Democrat candidates in 2020. I suspect I know the answers, not only for Howee but for virtually everyone: Zilch. |
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Howee
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Posted: 02/25/20 1:56 am ::: |
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GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Joke if you want, but the precise heart condition of a 78 year old presidential candidate who has had a recent heart attack and two stent insertions is a far more important voting factor, for most reasonable people, than weight or tax returns. |
Nah. Bernie's current performance on the campaign trail certainly seems to indicate a very functional cardio system. This is FAR less of a concern than a man who lies about his weight, and refuses to divulge financial records that every president typically does.
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Trump has disclosed his complete 2018 and 2019 physical exam results. According to them, he's 6-3 and weighed 239 in 2018 and 243 in 2019. His left ventricle ejection fraction is 60%-65%, perfectly normal. In 2018 he got a perfect score on the Montreal Cognitive Assessment, 30/30. |
And you really think he weighs in the 240 category, eh? Most likely you've never seen the pictures that he couldn't censor, as in Bloomsburg's recent ads. And he says he's 6'3". He undoubtedly had thick heels on that day....I've seen him standing next to Barack Obama and they're dead even. Barack only claimed to be 6'1"....he was the rare *truthful* sort, who didn't have to lie to make himself appear to be physically superior to what everyone can SEE he actually is.
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Perhaps Howee would enlighten us on what specific tax return data would change his vote if he saw Trump's 1040 return, and what 1040 factors influenced his voting preference as he (hypothetically) scrutinized the tax returns of Clinton and Sanders in 2016 and those of all the Democrat candidates in 2020. I suspect I know the answers, not only for Howee but for virtually everyone: Zilch. |
And yer wrong AGAIN, Glenn....there is HUGELY relevant data in these tax returns, starting with those who've been called on to submit them for scrutiny: Clinton, Sanders, Obama, Trump? Only ONE of them (hint: his name rhymes with Rump) REFUSES TO REVEAL HIS FINANCIAL/TAX RECORDS--I suspect I know the reason why, AND YOU DO, TOO. The bastard is HIDING *truth* from the public, truth that reveals he's lied about his actual net worth, and/or may have done unethical things, etc.
That number--1 un-forthcoming coward--is all the data we need to glean from any of it. What is relevant in any Open Tax Return is best left to the legal and financial experts to discern. All we non-tax geeks need to remember is that ONE--only ONE--of these public servants is hiding his wrongdoings.
THAT penchant for deceit and lying is a far more loathsome, fear-inducing factor than the condition of Bernie's left ventricle.
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Stonington_QB
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Shades
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Posted: 02/25/20 11:00 am ::: |
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GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Joke if you want, but the precise heart condition of a 78 year old presidential candidate who has had a recent heart attack and two stent insertions is a far more important voting factor, for most reasonable people, than weight or tax returns.
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You were trying to sell the idea of fake democrat billionaire Bloomberg as a great choice for the Democratic Party, but you failed to point out he also has stents. Why is that?
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Genero36
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Genero36
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Posted: 02/27/20 4:04 pm ::: |
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Genero36
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 02/28/20 1:37 pm ::: |
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Unlike Sanders, Bloomberg has never has a heart attack, and his two stents were put in 20 years ago. He's had full testing every year since then including ejection fraction measurements per echocardiogram.
Bloomberg releases new heart health information and calls on Sanders to do the same
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Bloomberg's last annual health exam was in July and included cardiac stress testing and a stress echocardiogram, according to a letter from Dr. Stephen Sisson at Johns Hopkins University that the Bloomberg campaign shared with CNN. According to Sisson, Bloomberg's left ventricular ejection fraction was "normal" at 60-65% |
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Bloomberg spokesman Stu Loeser said in a separate statement to CNN that Sanders should release the same left ventricular ejection fraction data.
"Releasing this single scientific number about heart health could start to put to rest any concerns about Senator Sanders' secrecy about his recent heart attack," Loeser said. "Mike Bloomberg's doctor shared Mike's number. Will Senator Sanders ask his doctor to do the same?" |
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CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta said the ejection fraction "is the single best test of the overall strength of the heart and how well the heart is pumping blood to the rest of the body." |
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Howee
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toad455
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toad455
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Posted: 03/01/20 6:27 pm ::: |
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Warren & Klobuchar will likely drop out after Super Tuesday. It'll basically be between Biden & Sanders after Tuesday.
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 03/01/20 6:55 pm ::: |
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I'm not surprised. He wasn't going anywhere without the black vote and he wasn't going to get it.
I'm actually surprised that he got as far as he did, tbh. A man MARRIED to another man?? Happy, but still surprised. Gives me hope that this ol' country isn't as backward as I had thought.
Will be interesting to see what he does next.
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Hawkeye
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Posted: 03/01/20 7:15 pm ::: |
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Could very well be Biden's VP pick.
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toad455
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Posted: 03/01/20 7:25 pm ::: |
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Hawkeye wrote: |
Could very well be Biden's VP pick. |
I agree. A Biden/Buttigieg ticket just might take down #45.
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 03/01/20 8:15 pm ::: |
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Buttigieg had breakfast with Jimmy Carter this morning. Would be interesting to know if Carter suggested Pete suspend his rum.
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Carter then nodded to Buttigieg's uncertain path ahead, saying, "He doesn't know what he's going to do after South Carolina." |
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/01/politics/jimmy-carter-pete-buttigieg-democratic-presidential-primary/index.html
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Shades
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Posted: 03/01/20 10:39 pm ::: |
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I’m in one of the Super Tuesday states, and I’m still seeing Buttigieg ads being run on television.
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tfan
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Posted: 03/01/20 11:33 pm ::: |
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Tom Steyer ads are still being run in California on Sunday evening (3/1/2020) after he has dropped out (suspended his campaign).
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 03/02/20 1:51 am ::: |
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Pete may have been running out of money
and I am cynical enough to believe that Biden said drop out before Super Tuesday and you are at the top of my VP list
(Probably wouldn't be the worst move for Sanders to try with Warren, but Warren if she does well in California 2nd or 3rd comes in 3rd or 4th in TX and wins Mass is probably still in the mix)
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Stonington_QB
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Posted: 03/02/20 1:42 pm ::: |
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Klobuchar has dropped out of the race...
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toad455
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Posted: 03/02/20 1:50 pm ::: |
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Stonington_QB wrote: |
Klobuchar has dropped out of the race... |
People were speculating that she was waiting until after Tuesday to steal some delegates from Sanders. It was happening, just a day or so sooner than people thought.
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