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ChiChi

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Posted: 12/11/05 5:58 pm ::: What's up with the Sting? |
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Anyone have any info on the Charlotte Sting's status for next season? I understand Muggsy will still be the coach. Will Trudi Lacey still be the GM?
Is Mr. Johnson committed to the team, and if not, can some Mystics fans get Ms. Johnson to talk a little trash to get him interested?
I'm excited about the new Bobcats arena, but not real hopeful about where the team is going as far as ownership/management.
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pilight

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ChiChi

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styxfan22
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Posted: 12/11/05 11:57 pm ::: |
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The Sting are my sleeper pick for next year:
PG: Darling
SG: Currie
SF: Sam
PF: Smith
C: TSB
Bench: Miller, Feaster, McCarville, Whoever they take with the Comets' pick (Zolman, Kim Smith?)
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jimmyk

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Posted: 12/12/05 12:11 am ::: |
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| If the Sting get Shanna Zolman, I will seriously consider season tickets. |
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Four
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Posted: 12/12/05 12:39 am ::: |
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| styxfan22 wrote: |
The Sting are my sleeper pick for next year:
PG: Darling
SG: Currie
SF: Sam
PF: Smith
C: TSB
Bench: Miller, Feaster, McCarville, Whoever they take with the Comets' pick (Zolman, Kim Smith?) |
I don't like Currie.
I don't like Augustus either...
There are players out there that I do like and enjoy watching play...But I feel that Currie and Augustus are very similar in that they are very, very good most of the time, but not great. I think a player is great when they can step up in big games and in times of adversity. The times I have seen both play, probably around 5 times each, neither of them blow me away (especially tourney time). I just think there are much better players out there who get no where near the attention those two get.
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MNfan22

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Posted: 12/12/05 12:44 am ::: |
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The Sting are my sleeper pick for next year:
PG: Darling
SG: Currie
SF: Sam
PF: Smith
C: TSB
Bench: Miller, Feaster, McCarville, Whoever they take with the Comets' pick (Zolman, Kim Smith?) |
Sleeper to do what ?
Signed, Just Curious
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Keegan
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Posted: 12/12/05 12:44 am ::: |
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| I just think there are much better players out there who get no where near the attention those two get. |
... like? |
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Four
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Posted: 12/12/05 1:35 am ::: |
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| I just think there are much better players out there who get no where near the attention those two get. |
... like? |
I didn't have anyone in particular in mind when I wrote it but I would have to say:
Sophia Young, get alot of attention but less or on the same wave length as SA and MC and I think Sophia is better.
Cappie Pondexter, same reasons as above.
Crystal Smith, very solid but has never gotten the oppurtunity to go late in post season.
Kim Smith, Liz Shimek, Jamie Broback, Khara Smith, Shay Doron
Pretty much everyone reading these boards know who these players are but if you asked a casual viewer or a less devoted fan...They could probably only name a few players off the cuff, and those players would be Augustus, Currie, Parker, and maybe Davenport. I have the opinion that other players should be advertised and talked up just as much. If the same teams and players are getting all the air time and recognition, that does not do much for the spread in popularity of the game.
The only reason I am here is because I happened to catch a nationally televised Minnesota game last year, of course it was against Augustus and LSU...But it was the first game in which I could actually say that watching womens basketball was enjoyable, and it wasn't because of Augustus.
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Keegan
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Posted: 12/12/05 3:55 am ::: |
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Crystal Smith, very solid but has never gotten the oppurtunity to go late in post season.
Kim Smith, Liz Shimek, Jamie Broback, Khara Smith, Shay Doron |
These players are "much better" than Augustus and Currie?
Augustus' and Currie's games are made for the pros. Most of the above players are good college players but will struggle to find their niche in the WNBA, though I think Doron and maybe Kim Smith may make an impact.
Sometimes hype isn't justified and it's usually overblown but these players are talked about for a reason. I think the most "overhyped" player at the moment could be Jessica Davenport, who's 6'4" and big but slow and immobile and has limited moves. |
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styxfan22
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Posted: 12/12/05 6:49 am ::: |
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The Sting are my sleeper pick for next year:
PG: Darling
SG: Currie
SF: Sam
PF: Smith
C: TSB
Bench: Miller, Feaster, McCarville, Whoever they take with the Comets' pick (Zolman, Kim Smith?) |
Sleeper to do what ?
Signed, Just Curious |
To be one of the best teams in the Eastern Conference, maybe finish 2nd or 3rd. They seemed to play with a lot more energy and enthusiasm after Mugs took over, and they should be adding a great player with the 3rd pick in the draft. They have too much talent to be as bad as last season.
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suemar

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Posted: 12/12/05 8:48 am ::: |
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| I plan on a trip to Charlotte again this year. The areana being in downtown area now will be great. The city is small but neat. i love Reeds gourmet store with wine bar. The Sting however, well, I just hope they play more competive ball this year. It was too sad last year. I do like watching TSB. Ahy Canada!
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gopherfan

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Posted: 12/12/05 9:27 am ::: |
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| styxfan22 wrote: |
The Sting are my sleeper pick for next year:
PG: Darling
SG: Currie
SF: Sam
PF: Smith
C: TSB
Bench: Miller, Feaster, McCarville, Whoever they take with the Comets' pick (Zolman, Kim Smith?) |
I think Muggsy should put Janel in the starting line up like he did last year with the 4 games they had left, they did win a few game with her in the starting line up and some close games. She didn't get to do any of the scoring but she the little things and got the rebounds. |
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Posted: 12/12/05 2:17 pm ::: |
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| styxfan22 wrote: |
The Sting are my sleeper pick for next year:
PG: Darling
SG: Currie
SF: Sam
PF: Smith
C: TSB
Bench: Miller, Feaster, McCarville, Whoever they take with the Comets' pick (Zolman, Kim Smith?) |
I think Muggsy should put Janel in the starting line up like he did last year with the 4 games they had left, they did win a few game with her in the starting line up and some close games. She didn't get to do any of the scoring but she the little things and got the rebounds. |
I agree.
Hopefully she has stepped up her game in the off season, while healing up. But Janel makes other people better, the team starts scoring more and she opens up the lane.
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MysticsFan05
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Posted: 12/12/05 2:18 pm ::: |
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Sometimes hype isn't justified and it's usually overblown but these players are talked about for a reason. I think the most "overhyped" player at the moment could be Jessica Davenport, who's 6'4" and big but slow and immobile and has limited moves. |
I disagree. Have you seen her play yet this year? She dominates the low post. I know Ohio St. hasn't faced any real competition yet, but she can definitely rebound and is excellent with the outlet pass. She is defintiely not immobile. I don't think scoring moves are what is going to make her effective in the WNBA - it's rebounding.
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gopher5
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Posted: 12/12/05 2:27 pm ::: |
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| Four wrote: |
| gopherfan wrote: |
| styxfan22 wrote: |
The Sting are my sleeper pick for next year:
PG: Darling
SG: Currie
SF: Sam
PF: Smith
C: TSB
Bench: Miller, Feaster, McCarville, Whoever they take with the Comets' pick (Zolman, Kim Smith?) |
I think Muggsy should put Janel in the starting line up like he did last year with the 4 games they had left, they did win a few game with her in the starting line up and some close games. She didn't get to do any of the scoring but she the little things and got the rebounds. |
I agree.
Hopefully she has stepped up her game in the off season, while healing up. But Janel makes other people better, the team starts scoring more and she opens up the lane. |
I think the reason Janel started was because Tangela was hurt. I don't see Janel starting over TSB or Tangela if both are still with the team. If Janel does remain there next season (I wish she would request a trade ala Powell), I hope she is healthy and is able to earn playing time and is utilized.
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Keegan
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Posted: 12/12/05 3:31 pm ::: |
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I haven't seen Davenport play this season yet but LSU/Ohio State is being broadcast down here.
It's not that I don't think she'll make it; I just don't think she'll end up being a top tier post. I wouldn't complain if she ended up on the Mercury! |
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gopherfan

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Posted: 12/12/05 6:26 pm ::: |
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| I think the reason Janel started was because Tangela was hurt. I don't see Janel starting over TSB or Tangela if both are still with the team. If Janel does remain there next season (I wish she would request a trade ala Powell), I hope she is healthy and is able to earn playing time and is utilized. |
Their are plenty of other Forward/Center players he could of put in to replace Tangela but he didn’t so their has to be some other reason why he started Janel and not anyone else. He has some good options in Janel and he needs to use them, I would like to see Janel continue getting the 10-17 mins that she needs so they can see that she belongs in the starting line up. I want her to be traded to, but where would she go? |
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Posted: 12/12/05 9:08 pm ::: |
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| gopher5 wrote: |
| Four wrote: |
| gopherfan wrote: |
| styxfan22 wrote: |
The Sting are my sleeper pick for next year:
PG: Darling
SG: Currie
SF: Sam
PF: Smith
C: TSB
Bench: Miller, Feaster, McCarville, Whoever they take with the Comets' pick (Zolman, Kim Smith?) |
I think Muggsy should put Janel in the starting line up like he did last year with the 4 games they had left, they did win a few game with her in the starting line up and some close games. She didn't get to do any of the scoring but she the little things and got the rebounds. |
I agree.
Hopefully she has stepped up her game in the off season, while healing up. But Janel makes other people better, the team starts scoring more and she opens up the lane. |
I think the reason Janel started was because Tangela was hurt. I don't see Janel starting over TSB or Tangela if both are still with the team. If Janel does remain there next season (I wish she would request a trade ala Powell), I hope she is healthy and is able to earn playing time and is utilized. |
Did Janel have surgery on her back? I have seen nothing since she was sent back from Europe. How's her Mom doing?
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Ballwinner

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Posted: 12/13/05 12:48 am ::: |
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| Ha ha. It's worth the price of admission to watch him strut around with Earl Cureton. |
The matching maroon suits were money.
The Sting may indeed be a good "sleeper" pick. In 2007, they may wake up in KC and wonder if the Queen City was but a dream.
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Admiral_Needa

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Posted: 12/13/05 2:20 am ::: |
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Sometimes hype isn't justified and it's usually overblown but these players are talked about for a reason. I think the most "overhyped" player at the moment could be Jessica Davenport, who's 6'4" and big but slow and immobile and has limited moves. |
I disagree. Have you seen her play yet this year? She dominates the low post. I know Ohio St. hasn't faced any real competition yet, but she can definitely rebound and is excellent with the outlet pass. She is defintiely not immobile. I don't think scoring moves are what is going to make her effective in the WNBA - it's rebounding. |
I agree. She's defintiely not immobile. Cheryl Ford didn't come into the league with a lot of scoring moves either... it was all about rebounding. |
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gopher5
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Posted: 12/13/05 10:04 am ::: |
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Did Janel have surgery on her back? I have seen nothing since she was sent back from Europe. How's her Mom doing? |
I have not heard or seen anything on either her back or how her Mom is doing. She has been to most of the Gopher games this year.
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daspoon
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Posted: 12/13/05 6:48 pm ::: |
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I wonder what Sheri Sam is doing now that she got kicked off her overseas team?
Think that she will re-group and lead the Sting this upcoming season?
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ChiChi

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Posted: 12/13/05 6:57 pm ::: |
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| styxfan22 wrote: |
| The Sting are my sleeper pick for next year |
From your keyboard...
| Ballwinner wrote: |
| The Sting may indeed be a good "sleeper" pick. In 2007, they may wake up in KC and wonder if the Queen City was but a dream. |
Noooooooooooooooooo.
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| I feel that Currie and Augustus are very similar in that they are very, very good most of the time, but not great. |
So, would you say they are "virtually bursting with adequatulance" (I love newsradio too)? Personally, I would be thrilled to death if the Sting somehow got Currie. I don't exactly bend over backwards to catch Duke games, but I thought she was very focused in some big games.
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| I think Muggsy should put Janel in the starting line up like he did last year with the 4 games they had left |
I hope they send her back to Minnesota, if Muggsy is not impressed. It was too bad last year, she really seemed like a positive, "team" player. I don't know if it was more that her back injury was serious, or Trudi Lacey was the problem. But why hang on to her, why not make her and Minnesota fans and happy if you can't find a use for her?
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Posted: 12/13/05 7:01 pm ::: |
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I dont know if Janel is fitting with the Sting like a lot of you have said. A trade would be a bad idea. Personally, I think Minnesota would make a trade but who would they give up? A draft pick? One of their wing people? Not sure. Thats the real question. Although, if I were SMS, i'd get rid of Svet ASAP._________________ JENNASMITH13.com
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gopherfan

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Posted: 12/13/05 7:51 pm ::: |
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| I hope they send her back to Minnesota, if Muggsy is not impressed. It was too bad last year, she really seemed like a positive, "team" player. I don't know if it was more that her back injury was serious, or Trudi Lacey was the problem. But why hang on to her, why not make her and Minnesota fans and happy if you can't find a use for her? |
I would love for Janel come back to Minnesota, but their no room for Janel unless they get rid of Ohlde or Hayden, Janel wouldn’t see any time on the court. I would suggest getting rid of one of them but I might get a swift kick in the ass if I did. Janel rookie season wouldn't of suck as merely as bad as it did if they wouldn't of miss diagnosed her back problems. |
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styxfan22
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Posted: 12/13/05 7:58 pm ::: |
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| How about McCarve for Tamika Williams?
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 12/13/05 8:29 pm ::: |
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Why would Minnesota make that trade? Tamika Williams can start or come off the bench. At 6-3, she uses her body to defend bigger players and to force rebounds.
I didn't think McCarville's game would translate to the WNBA. Yes, she didn't get many minutes, but I always thought Powell would be a very good WNBA player...didn't get the same vibe about Janel.
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Posted: 12/13/05 8:29 pm ::: |
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| How about McCarve for Tamika Williams? |
Williams and the frist pick. |
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Posted: 12/13/05 8:30 pm ::: |
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| ROFL! No way is McCarville worth Tamika Williams straight up, much less for the #1 pick!
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Posted: 12/13/05 8:41 pm ::: |
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| TW would be a reasonable price for Minnesota to pay for the attendance boost they'd get with Janel.
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PUmatty

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Posted: 12/13/05 8:54 pm ::: |
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| TW would be a reasonable price for Minnesota to pay for the attendance boost they'd get with Janel. |
How long is that attendance boost when people realize they are coming to watch McCarville sit on the bench. It would be suicide for the Lynx.
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gopherfan

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Posted: 12/13/05 8:56 pm ::: |
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| ROFL! No way is McCarville worth Tamika Williams straight up, much less for the #1 pick! |
Right, because Tamika Williams must of had one of those break out years last year. She hasn't proven to be much over the past 2 years. |
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Posted: 12/13/05 9:08 pm ::: |
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| TW would be a reasonable price for Minnesota to pay for the attendance boost they'd get with Janel. |
How long is that attendance boost when people realize they are coming to watch McCarville sit on the bench. It would be suicide for the Lynx. |
I'm assuming Janel would play better once she got away from Trudi and be the first post off the bench.
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Posted: 12/13/05 9:15 pm ::: |
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| TW would be a reasonable price for Minnesota to pay for the attendance boost they'd get with Janel. |
How long is that attendance boost when people realize they are coming to watch McCarville sit on the bench. It would be suicide for the Lynx. |
She would be coming off the bench, but at least not behind T.W or S.L.T. and depending on foul trouble from Ohlde and Hayden which doesn’t take them very long to get into, she could have a good amount of minutes. |
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| ROFL! No way is McCarville worth Tamika Williams straight up, much less for the #1 pick! |
I agree 100%! You send a post player who is proven, but hasnt had decent minutes in the last season to another team for a player than has yet to prove herself even in the little minutes she has gotten. Tamika Williams is worth about three Sting players haha_________________ JENNASMITH13.com
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I could find about 3 other threads with the same discussion. There are a few places people would like to see McCarville play including Minnesota and Chicago. But who knows, maybe Charlotte will end up being a great place. I just think we should wait and see.
[quote="ChiChi"]So, would you say they are "virtually bursting with adequatulance" (I love newsradio too)? Personally, I would be thrilled to death if the Sting somehow got Currie. I don't exactly bend over backwards to catch Duke games, but I thought she was very focused in some big games.[quote]
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Posted: 12/13/05 11:22 pm ::: |
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| ROFL! No way is McCarville worth Tamika Williams straight up, much less for the #1 pick! |
I agree 100%! You send a post player who is proven, but hasnt had decent minutes in the last season to another team for a player than has yet to prove herself even in the little minutes she has gotten. Tamika Williams is worth about three Sting players haha |
I would love to have Tamika on the Mercury, as the banger to complement Vodi.
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Right, because Tamika Williams must of had one of those break out years last year. She hasn't proven to be much over the past 2 years. |
Williams has proven to be a solid role player who could start on the right teams. McCarville has shown what in the WNBA? Even Nicole Powell showed more in her rookie season. |
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gopherfan

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| McCarville has shown what in the WNBA? Even Nicole Powell showed more in her rookie season. |
It's a little different when someone has Unidentified back problems. |
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| McCarville has shown what in the WNBA? Even Nicole Powell showed more in her rookie season. |
It's a little different when someone has Unidentified back problems. |
Not if the possibility exists that back problems will persist. What team wants to take that on?
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gopherfan

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Posted: 12/14/05 5:06 pm ::: |
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| McCarville has shown what in the WNBA? Even Nicole Powell showed more in her rookie season. |
It's a little different when someone has Unidentified back problems. |
Not if the possibility exists that back problems will persist. What team wants to take that on? |
What difference would that make, if she got the surgery or if it was some what healed. |
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Tamika Williams is starter material and, as a RFA, will likely be signed by someone else. - Washington?? Indiana?? Chicago??
The only fair trade would be McCarville, Feaster & their 1st round pick(likely Pondexter) to Minnesota for Nicole Ohlde & Amber Jacobs.
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Tamika Williams is starter material and, as a RFA, will likely be signed by someone else. - Washington?? Indiana?? Chicago??
The only fair trade would be McCarville, Feaster & their 1st round pick(likely Pondexter) to Minnesota for Nicole Ohlde & Amber Jacobs. |
I don't see the Lynx letting Tamika go. I think they will match any offer to keep her on the team. She is one of the more experienced players and a vocal team leader plus they have salary cap room.
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Unless someone plans to throw a max deal (or something similar) at Tamika (which sounds unreasonable, unless it's a one year deal, and it's someone like Indi or the Merc who need the post help) she won't want to go anywhere IMO. She's captain of the Lynx. She may not start, but she is the type of player you get on the floor somehow. She commands minutes. She does small things, has a good team attitude, and hustles.
I will never forget a couple years back when the Lynx played the Sparks in the first round, nearly upsetting them, almost on Tamika's back.
I don't know exactly how she'd fit in, but I'd take her on the Comets in a split second.
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