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Richyyy
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Posted: 08/25/18 6:03 pm ::: |
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So apparently you never saw a single game Williams played during four years in Tulsa. |
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Nixtreefan
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ChicagoAnnie
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Posted: 08/26/18 3:33 pm ::: Re: Los Angeles Sparks 2019 |
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Davis4632 wrote: |
Has their championship window closed? Is Candace going to request a trade? Is Beard going to retire? Should the Sparks move on from Carson, Lavender, Sims, and Williams? Is Vadeeva coming back to the states next season? So many questions. |
Candace shouldn't have to request a trade...Brian just need to trade her while there still some value. The receiving gotta know that her legs will not give them 17/10/6 a night on short rest though. Jlav and Sims gotta go too.
Beard might retire.
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myrtle
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Posted: 08/26/18 4:36 pm ::: Re: Los Angeles Sparks 2019 |
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ChicagoAnnie wrote: |
Davis4632 wrote: |
Has their championship window closed? Is Candace going to request a trade? Is Beard going to retire? Should the Sparks move on from Carson, Lavender, Sims, and Williams? Is Vadeeva coming back to the states next season? So many questions. |
Candace shouldn't have to request a trade...Brian just need to trade her while there still some value. The receiving gotta know that her legs will not give them 17/10/6 a night on short rest though. Jlav and Sims gotta go too.
Beard might retire. |
okay...so who's your posts in this ideal world of dumping everybody?
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Richyyy
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Posted: 08/26/18 4:57 pm ::: Re: Los Angeles Sparks 2019 |
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myrtle wrote: |
ChicagoAnnie wrote: |
Davis4632 wrote: |
Has their championship window closed? Is Candace going to request a trade? Is Beard going to retire? Should the Sparks move on from Carson, Lavender, Sims, and Williams? Is Vadeeva coming back to the states next season? So many questions. |
Candace shouldn't have to request a trade...Brian just need to trade her while there still some value. The receiving gotta know that her legs will not give them 17/10/6 a night on short rest though. Jlav and Sims gotta go too.
Beard might retire. |
okay...so who's your posts in this ideal world of dumping everybody? |
Trade her to Chicago, get Cheyenne Parker back, and hope no one notices the difference when you're still selling games with your Parker/Ogwumike frontcourt. |
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 08/26/18 8:49 pm ::: |
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Trading away Candy Parker is the stuff of whimsical fairy tales.
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Randy
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Posted: 08/26/18 8:54 pm ::: |
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Rock Hard wrote: |
Trading away Candy Parker is the stuff of whimsical fairy tales. |
Yeah - best deal since Jack got 3 magic beans for his only dairy cow.
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Nixtreefan
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GEF34
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Posted: 08/26/18 9:52 pm ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
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Except that the Sparks aren't subject to the same rules as the rest of the league |
I chuckled the first 213,546,324 times you said that. Now it's just kind of obnoxious, tbh. Lol. New material, please. |
His argument got rather strengthened when Sims took a contract 2-3 years shorter and 50 grand per year less than she could've received on the open market this offseason. |
Not sure how that strengthens his argument since whatever agreement Odyssey Sims, her agent and the Sparks came to did not break any rules, that fact that she accepted an offer lower than she could have gotten from other regardless of the reason why doesn't mean the Sparks broke the rules or played by different rules than any other team.
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GEF34
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Posted: 08/26/18 10:05 pm ::: |
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For all the people who are saying they are unhappy with the Jantel Lavender's play and she should be traded do you ever considered she is doing exactly what Brian Agler and the rest of the staff is asking her to do. The fact that you think she should do more doesn't mean she is not playing the role asked of her. And I'd have to imagine if the staff was unhappy with her play she wouldn't be getting the minutes she is getting.
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WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 12569 Location: Dallas , Texas
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Posted: 08/27/18 10:55 am ::: |
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GEF34 wrote: |
For all the people who are saying they are unhappy with the Jantel Lavender's play and she should be traded do you ever considered she is doing exactly what Brian Agler and the rest of the staff is asking her to do. The fact that you think she should do more doesn't mean she is not playing the role asked of her. And I'd have to imagine if the staff was unhappy with her play she wouldn't be getting the minutes she is getting. |
They're asking her to not rebound ? Not box out ? Not make shots ? Not be effective in the game ? I think her minutes are more to do with not having another option than her deserving them .
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 08/27/18 11:16 am ::: |
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Zellous would be an ideal fit on this team. |
As a shooting guard who cannot shoot from distance?
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Shades
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Posted: 08/27/18 11:19 am ::: |
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The Sparks have to start paying Chelsea Gray, so they’ll already be forced to lose at least one of Beard, Carson, or Riquna.... or possibly Sims. Plus they’d have to deal down one of the player’s contracts that don’t go overseas like they did with Sims this year.
Or they could trade Lavender, but that might be a tough sell since they signed her for max. I could see her going to a low budget team like the Aces who could use a solid center especially if they don’t get a Top 2 pick or they don’t want one of the prospect centers. But Lavender doesn’t really fit the defensive mold that Laimbeer likes.
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toad455
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Posted: 08/27/18 12:30 pm ::: |
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Liberty might take Lavender. But we have nothing to trade for.
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Shades
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Posted: 08/27/18 12:37 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
Liberty might take Lavender. But we have nothing to trade for. |
Even though you don’t have the same quality of roster as the Sparks, you’re running into cap space problems yourself.
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Michelle89
Joined: 17 Nov 2010 Posts: 16464 Location: Holland
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Posted: 08/27/18 4:41 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
Liberty might take Lavender. But we have nothing to trade for. |
Lavender for Stokes?
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WNBA 09
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 08/27/18 5:50 pm ::: |
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Lavender for Copper
Chi gets starting level PF or at least someone who makes a nice two headed PF with Cheyenne Parker. LA gets 3 and D small forward basically Carson 2.0 who has one more year of rookie scale contract.
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myrtle
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Posted: 08/27/18 6:39 pm ::: |
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J-Spoon wrote: |
Lavender for Copper
Chi gets starting level PF or at least someone who makes a nice two headed PF with Cheyenne Parker. LA gets 3 and D small forward basically Carson 2.0 who has one more year of rookie scale contract. |
IMO it would need to be Copper plus something. I like Copper but She's more like a third tier player, with Lavender being second tier. Maybe #15 would be enough to add to Copper. I don't think Lavender is exactly what Chicago needs but she could be useful.
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myrtle
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Posted: 08/27/18 6:43 pm ::: |
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If you really must move her (which I don't really think is true) maybe Lavender to Indy for Shenise Johnson. That would give Indy the freedom to move Dupree if they wish. MoMo would be perfect fit for LA if she comes fully back from her injury, though a bit of a gamble because of the injury. I guess the question there is if she and BayBay could play together again since it seems like there was possibly some bad feeling between them at the end in Miami.
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 08/27/18 9:14 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
J-Spoon wrote: |
Lavender for Copper
Chi gets starting level PF or at least someone who makes a nice two headed PF with Cheyenne Parker. LA gets 3 and D small forward basically Carson 2.0 who has one more year of rookie scale contract. |
IMO it would need to be Copper plus something. I like Copper but She's more like a third tier player, with Lavender being second tier. Maybe #15 would be enough to add to Copper. I don't think Lavender is exactly what Chicago needs but she could be useful. |
I agree to a point but Copper is still in the improving portion of her career while I think Lavender is in the decline of hers, and Copper is cheaper which also gives LA some cap relief that the Sparks need as well.
Also some above have suggested Stokes for Lavender. I would not do that if I was NY.
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zune69
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Posted: 08/28/18 7:17 am ::: |
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From a Chicago Sky perspective,I don't think a Copper for Lavender deal makes any sense.Chicago's major weakness is defense.A defensive frontline of Dolson,Parker and Lavender would be a recipe for disaster...Lavender’s best defensive position is center...Only teams with mobile Power Forwards capable of playing defense should trade for Lavender (Conn,NY.ATL.Wash,LV,Sea)
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Michelle89
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Posted: 08/28/18 12:43 pm ::: |
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Sims to the Storm, Langhorne to the Sparks, lavender to the liberty and Stokes to the Sparks
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Nixtreefan
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Shades
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Posted: 08/28/18 1:19 pm ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
Sims to the Storm |
Expensive replacement for Quinn. Use that money up before Stewart becomes a RFA. Then you’ll have to learn to be more frugal, unless Bird retires by then.
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Langhorne to the Sparks |
I thought you liked her as the 6th man.
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Lavender to the Liberty |
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Stokes to the Sparks |
Is this going to be an even swap? How do Liberty fans feel about this? It would save the Sparks about $25K.
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