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PostPosted: 08/26/18 11:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, it looks like Sugar is staying with the Liberty. Nice PR announcement?!?!



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I can't believe they just extended Sugar. This certainly isn't based on performance. What idiots! Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 08/26/18 1:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Well, it looks like Sugar is staying with the Liberty. Nice PR announcement?!?!


Apparently it was a week ago but there was no announcement made on Liberty twitter.



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I can't believe they just extended Sugar. This certainly isn't based on performance. What idiots! Rolling Eyes


Exactly right. I've said for quite a while that Rodgers should go. Two disappointing seasons in a row. Her stats after SIX seasons in the WNBA vividly demonstrate that her strong 2016 performance was a career year. Two disappointing seasons since. How does that merit an extension?

For me, this underscores something intensely gloomy. Whoever is making personnel decisions for the Liberty has lousy judgment. Apart from drafting Kia Nurse a year ago, they've made many bad decisions. So it's difficult to have confidence that with the #4 pick, with the #14 pick, with free agents out there, the unnamed Liberty decisionmakers will make the best possible moves.



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I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.



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I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.


I hope that every returning player for the Liberty improves in 2019. But after what Rodgers has shown in both 2017 and 2018--and considering that she's supposed to be in her prime years--is there any reason to believe that she will improve?



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I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.

That's probably why they did it. They're trying to make sure they've got somebody under contract to play on the wing next year besides Nurse. The core spot has to go to Charles, so otherwise there were going to be a hell of lot of UFAs coming off this roster. There are still plenty.



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root_thing wrote:
I can't believe they just extended Sugar. This certainly isn't based on performance. What idiots! Rolling Eyes


Exactly right. I've said for quite a while that Rodgers should go. Two disappointing seasons in a row. Her stats after SIX seasons in the WNBA vividly demonstrate that her strong 2016 performance was a career year. Two disappointing seasons since. How does that merit an extension?

For me, this underscores something intensely gloomy. Whoever is making personnel decisions for the Liberty has lousy judgment. Apart from drafting Kia Nurse a year ago, they've made many bad decisions. So it's difficult to have confidence that with the #4 pick, with the #14 pick, with free agents out there, the unnamed Liberty decisionmakers will make the best possible moves.


The one saving grace to their early draft pick is that it's a hard pick to screw up. There's five clear quality players at the top of the draft, if not more. But to me, 5 immediate starters.



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toad455 wrote:
I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.

That's probably why they did it. They're trying to make sure they've got somebody under contract to play on the wing next year besides Nurse. The core spot has to go to Charles, so otherwise there were going to be a hell of lot of UFAs coming off this roster. There are still plenty.


This makes sense.



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Richyyy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.

That's probably why they did it. They're trying to make sure they've got somebody under contract to play on the wing next year besides Nurse. The core spot has to go to Charles, so otherwise there were going to be a hell of lot of UFAs coming off this roster. There are still plenty.


lol boy ole boy, i think you're right but its still a very bad signing extension. i think they fear not getting anybody in the free agency due to playing here in westchester. i don't know. maybe im bias cuz its close to home but WCC is not that bad

In free agency i want the Libs to take a look at Betnijah Laney, she was very solid off the bench for the Sun. i like her game

In draft, realistic i see happening

KLS will be the pick if the 2 bigs are gone at 4, if Katie is still the Coach she will be pushing for her cuz she likes her. i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick

at 14, pick up a big body like Alexis Jennings from USC(south carolina) if we don't get a big in the 1st round, we draft Laska from USF if we draft a big in the 1st.




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i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick


#3 would be really lucky since it's not possible. Surprised



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LibFan25 wrote:
i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick


#3 would be really lucky since it's not possible. Surprised


not possible? damn well lets say a prayer for 2 or 1 then Sad


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lol this is a good draft tho, i would be happy with these Prospects:

Brown #1
Collier #2
Durr #3
KLS #4


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Richyyy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.

That's probably why they did it. They're trying to make sure they've got somebody under contract to play on the wing next year besides Nurse. The core spot has to go to Charles, so otherwise there were going to be a hell of lot of UFAs coming off this roster. There are still plenty.


Except for Tina, the level of play from NY's veterans ranged from very ordinary to bad. They're all eminently replaceable. Remember, the Phoenix Mercury replaced TEN players last year. They still improved their record by two wins.



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LibFan25 wrote:
Shades wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick


#3 would be really lucky since it's not possible. Surprised


not possible? damn well lets say a prayer for 2 or 1 then Sad


When they re-did the lottery odds to be based on 2-year record, they also changed it so they only draw for the top 2 picks, not the top 3 picks, so if the Liberty aren't chosen for pick #1 or pick #2, then they remain at pick #4




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SpaceJunkie wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
Shades wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick


#3 would be really lucky since it's not possible. Surprised


not possible? damn well lets say a prayer for 2 or 1 then Sad


When they re-did the lottery odds to be based on 2-year record, they also changed it so they only draw for the top 2 picks, not the top 3 picks, so if the Liberty are chosen for pick #1 or pick #2, then they remain at pick #4


gotcha, thanks


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I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.


I think it's an indicator that Zellous is on the way out as well, if nothing else. It doesn't really make sense for Z to return to the Libs from anyone's perspective. The Libs want to get younger and open a spot for Nurse and possibly a draft pick. Z is going to want to go to a championship caliber squad (LA makes a ton of sense if they can afford her).



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I think it's an indicator that Zellous is on the way out as well, if nothing else. It doesn't really make sense for Z to return to the Libs from anyone's perspective. The Libs want to get younger and open a spot for Nurse and possibly a draft pick. Z is going to want to go to a championship caliber squad (LA makes a ton of sense if they can afford her).


I think you're right.

Of Zellous, Prince, Rodgers, and Hartley, Zellous is the only one I've been eager to see return.... because of her fire and leadership. But it absolutely makes sense for her to head elsewhere. And I will wish her well. She's given a lot to the Liberty.



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LibFan25 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.

That's probably why they did it. They're trying to make sure they've got somebody under contract to play on the wing next year besides Nurse. The core spot has to go to Charles, so otherwise there were going to be a hell of lot of UFAs coming off this roster. There are still plenty.


lol boy ole boy, i think you're right but its still a very bad signing extension. i think they fear not getting anybody in the free agency due to playing here in westchester. i don't know. maybe im bias cuz its close to home but WCC is not that bad

In free agency i want the Libs to take a look at Betnijah Laney, she was very solid off the bench for the Sun. i like her game

In draft, realistic i see happening

KLS will be the pick if the 2 bigs are gone at 4, if Katie is still the Coach she will be pushing for her cuz she likes her. i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick

at 14, pick up a big body like Alexis Jennings from USC(south carolina) if we don't get a big in the 1st round, we draft Laska from USF if we draft a big in the 1st.


I still prefer Durr over KLS but won't be mad if it is KLS at #4.

I still have hope that people will pass on Anigwe and she will be there at #14 but I am slowly giving up on that and recently thought if we don't go big round 1 maybe someone like Jennings will work in round 2.

I also don't hate the Rodgers extension as long as Prince isn't also re-signed. I actually like Rodgers she can sill plays good D and has a 3 point shot. If she is our back up at the 2 and can split the difference between Good Sugar from a couple of season's ago and not so good Sugar the last season then she has value.

I am still waiting for the draft lottery before going in on a future plan whether it be my fantasy or my realistic view of what ill happen but in general I think we are looking at

Boyd/Hartley
Rodgers
Nurse
Charles/Zahui B
Stokes

that is 7
lottery pick and 2nd round pick makes 9
See what happens with Zellous and Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe now at ?
Look at new free agents still at ?
Look at our other current free agents not listed above (kind of hoping even if we miss on other free agents that we don't fall back on these players for comfort and safety, I would prefer new blood and development of our younger talent) ?
3rd round pick and waiver wire?


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SpaceJunkie wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
Shades wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick


#3 would be really lucky since it's not possible. Surprised


not possible? damn well lets say a prayer for 2 or 1 then Sad


When they re-did the lottery odds to be based on 2-year record, they also changed it so they only draw for the top 2 picks, not the top 3 picks, so if the Liberty aren't chosen for pick #1 or pick #2, then they remain at pick #4


R U Ok?



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Luuuc wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
Shades wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick


#3 would be really lucky since it's not possible. Surprised


not possible? damn well lets say a prayer for 2 or 1 then Sad


When they re-did the lottery odds to be based on 2-year record, they also changed it so they only draw for the top 2 picks, not the top 3 picks, so if the Liberty aren't chosen for pick #1 or pick #2, then they remain at pick #4


R U Ok?


Are you saying that because my comment doesn't make sense, or because you think something is wrong with me because I made two comments on this forum that weren't about a trade I hated?


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SpaceJunkie wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
Shades wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick


#3 would be really lucky since it's not possible. Surprised


not possible? damn well lets say a prayer for 2 or 1 then Sad


When they re-did the lottery odds to be based on 2-year record, they also changed it so they only draw for the top 2 picks, not the top 3 picks, so if the Liberty aren't chosen for pick #1 or pick #2, then they remain at pick #4


R U Ok?


Are you saying that because my comment doesn't make sense, or because you think something is wrong with me because I made two comments on this forum that weren't about a trade I hated?


(IMO) you just didn't seem your usual self at all in that post.
So I hope you're feeling ok. If not, hang in there.
Lynx fans could be excused for not quite knowing how to deal with not still being in contention for a title at this point of a season. It has been a looooong time.



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(IMO) you just didn't seem your usual self at all in that post.
So I hope you're feeling ok. If not, hang in there.
Lynx fans could be excused for not quite knowing how to deal with not still being in contention for a title at this point of a season. It has been a looooong time.


I'm numb to it as a Minnesota sports fan. In Minnesota, our sports teams are better at winning titles for other teams than their own, so as the GM as of a Minnesota sports team, your job is basically to win titles for teams other than your own. That's why it's obvious Cheryl Reeve, upon being named GM of the Lynx, knew she had only one job: win a title for the Seattle Storm, as she doesn't give a crap about the Lynx winning, and she may never have. But this is a Liberty thread, and you just wanted to tempt me into saying the same thing I've said 200 times already in all the other threads, even threads that have nothing to do with the Lynx, because you find it amusing. Smile Maybe Cheryl Reeve will eventually get around to winning a title for the Liberty after she's done winning titles for the Dream once she trades them Maya Moore for a Chris Chandler football card.


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J-Spoon wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.

That's probably why they did it. They're trying to make sure they've got somebody under contract to play on the wing next year besides Nurse. The core spot has to go to Charles, so otherwise there were going to be a hell of lot of UFAs coming off this roster. There are still plenty.


lol boy ole boy, i think you're right but its still a very bad signing extension. i think they fear not getting anybody in the free agency due to playing here in westchester. i don't know. maybe im bias cuz its close to home but WCC is not that bad

In free agency i want the Libs to take a look at Betnijah Laney, she was very solid off the bench for the Sun. i like her game

In draft, realistic i see happening

KLS will be the pick if the 2 bigs are gone at 4, if Katie is still the Coach she will be pushing for her cuz she likes her. i hope we get sum lucky ping pong balls and land either 2 or 3 pick

at 14, pick up a big body like Alexis Jennings from USC(south carolina) if we don't get a big in the 1st round, we draft Laska from USF if we draft a big in the 1st.


I still prefer Durr over KLS but won't be mad if it is KLS at #4.

I still have hope that people will pass on Anigwe and she will be there at #14 but I am slowly giving up on that and recently thought if we don't go big round 1 maybe someone like Jennings will work in round 2.

I also don't hate the Rodgers extension as long as Prince isn't also re-signed. I actually like Rodgers she can sill plays good D and has a 3 point shot. If she is our back up at the 2 and can split the difference between Good Sugar from a couple of season's ago and not so good Sugar the last season then she has value.

I am still waiting for the draft lottery before going in on a future plan whether it be my fantasy or my realistic view of what ill happen but in general I think we are looking at

Boyd/Hartley
Rodgers
Nurse
Charles/Zahui B
Stokes

that is 7
lottery pick and 2nd round pick makes 9
See what happens with Zellous and Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe now at ?
Look at new free agents still at ?
Look at our other current free agents not listed above (kind of hoping even if we miss on other free agents that we don't fall back on these players for comfort and safety, I would prefer new blood and development of our younger talent) ?
3rd round pick and waiver wire?


I've watched Anigwe at Cal and saw her a little in high school -- I would not pin too much hope on her being a serviceable WNBA player. She has athleticism and some skills, but so far, at least, she doesn't handle adversity well, and her game is pretty much the same as it was when she was in high school.

Of course, she might do better as a pro, and harness her ability, and No. 14 is about right for her, given her potential, but I find it hard to see her contributing more than Charles, Stokes and Zahui B -- or even Vaughn.



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I think it's an indicator that Zellous is on the way out as well, if nothing else. It doesn't really make sense for Z to return to the Libs from anyone's perspective. The Libs want to get younger and open a spot for Nurse and possibly a draft pick. Z is going to want to go to a championship caliber squad (LA makes a ton of sense if they can afford her).


I think you're right.

Of Zellous, Prince, Rodgers, and Hartley, Zellous is the only one I've been eager to see return.... because of her fire and leadership. But it absolutely makes sense for her to head elsewhere. And I will wish her well. She's given a lot to the Liberty.


It will be interesting to see what happens if the Libs move up in the lottery. 10% chance for the top pick. Another 14% for pick #2. Could Z be sold on returning to the Liberty if they add a needed post player and she is promised a starting spot alongside Kia Nurse? With a 25% chance to move up it's obviously unlikely but not impossible. With a #4 pick they'd be unlikely to add a post player, thus making them highly likely to add a player at Z's position(s).

In that scenario, Piph and Vaughn's money comes off the books, making it likely feasible economically...even if you have to pay Boyd and Zahui. The backups in this scenario, Sugar and Bec, give you defense and tempo possibilities from the second unit, though Sugar never has really played well on the second unit. One certainty...a lineup of this nature would improve the Libs' defense dramatically, if for no other reason that 3 of the 4 worst defenders on the team (Piph, Coleman, Vaughn) would all be gone. And those minutes would be covered primarily by strong defensive players. And the Libs could cut out the annoying habit of sagging under screens, as whoever you have in the middle (McC, Stokes, even Brown) would be a major upgrade over Vaughn defensively. Brown isn't terribly fast or agile but she's tall, her footwork is underrated and she plays with a high motor. All those would mean an immediate improvement over Vaughn.

I think Z staying is very unlikely. But I think the above is probably the ONLY scenario in which she would stay.



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NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
toad455 wrote:
I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.


I think it's an indicator that Zellous is on the way out as well, if nothing else. It doesn't really make sense for Z to return to the Libs from anyone's perspective. The Libs want to get younger and open a spot for Nurse and possibly a draft pick. Z is going to want to go to a championship caliber squad (LA makes a ton of sense if they can afford her).


Zellous has been hanging out with all sparks players since the playoffs ended for LA. Went to a big sean concert for someone's Bday with Parker, Lavender and Gray last night.



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I'm keeping my fingers crossed the Libs get the #1 or #2 Pick then they'll do a Tina Charles sign and trade with the Mystics for the 2019 #10 Pick and 2020 1st Rd Pick


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I'm keeping my fingers crossed the Libs get the #1 or #2 Pick then they'll do a Tina Charles sign and trade with the Mystics for the 2019 #10 Pick and 2020 1st Rd Pick

Whoever the hell is in charge in New York, they're not trading their one star player for two shitty draft picks.



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I'm keeping my fingers crossed the Libs get the #1 or #2 Pick then they'll do a Tina Charles sign and trade with the Mystics for the 2019 #10 Pick and 2020 1st Rd Pick

Whoever the hell is in charge in New York, they're not trading their one star player for two shitty draft picks.


Okay, Okay, put Walker-Kimbrough in the deal with the 2 draft picks. You make a hard bargain.


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NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
toad455 wrote:
I only had the Liberty keeping Rodgers if Prince opted to go elsewhere. If Prince does sign elsewhere, this extension doesn't bother me. Let's hope she improves in 2019.


I think it's an indicator that Zellous is on the way out as well, if nothing else. It doesn't really make sense for Z to return to the Libs from anyone's perspective. The Libs want to get younger and open a spot for Nurse and possibly a draft pick. Z is going to want to go to a championship caliber squad (LA makes a ton of sense if they can afford her).


Zellous has been hanging out with all sparks players since the playoffs ended for LA. Went to a big sean concert for someone's Bday with Parker, Lavender and Gray last night.


That sounds like someone who's moving on. Thanks for info.



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Richyyy wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
I'm keeping my fingers crossed the Libs get the #1 or #2 Pick then they'll do a Tina Charles sign and trade with the Mystics for the 2019 #10 Pick and 2020 1st Rd Pick

Whoever the hell is in charge in New York, they're not trading their one star player for two shitty draft picks.


Okay, Okay, put Walker-Kimbrough in the deal with the 2 draft picks. You make a hard bargain.

You're still talking about three players at a talent level that we can acquire in free agency without giving up anything. The WNBA is a small league with only 144 players. No one is interested in volume.


As for Kristine Anigwe, she was the best freshman player in the country for 2015-16 -- clearly better than KLS, Durr, and Brown. McCowan wasn't even in the discussion back them. Anigwe returned with an even better season the following year. Although KLS, Durr, and Brown closed the gap considerably, Anigwe still had the better statistical season. Obviously, she didn't have the same type of team success as the other three, but the flip side is that Anigwe should receive credit for playing with a weaker supporting cast. Then last season, Kristine had injury problems and her production fell off while KLS, Durr, Brown, and McCowan played very well. So, today Anigwe has dropped off the radar for a lot of fans. However, if she bounces back with a good season, I don't see why she wouldn't be a 1st Round pick. She's not as big as Brown or McCowan but Anigwe is much quicker and more athletic. It has also been reported that she is a basketball junkie who watches film all day. If Anigwe returns to form, I think she has enough positives to go as high as the mid-1st Round.



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PostPosted: 08/27/18 12:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I'm keeping my fingers crossed the Libs get the #1 or #2 Pick then they'll do a Tina Charles sign and trade with the Mystics for the 2019 #10 Pick and 2020 1st Rd Pick

Whoever the hell is in charge in New York, they're not trading their one star player for two shitty draft picks.


I love how sports fans so often propose trades that would be wonderful for their teams and that the other teams would be absolute idiots to go for. It never ends.



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Charles is not a great fit for the Mystics anyway. For those living in 2018, Charles is a PF.



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Charles is not a great fit for the Mystics anyway. For those living in 2018, Charles is a PF.


Yeah - with Charles the Mystics would have 3 All Star PFs. Razz


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I feel like Anigwe is the Deshields of posts.

Tons of basketball talent. What some might see as an attitude problem. A game that will probably work better on the pro level. She passes my eye test the same way Diamond did.


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Richyyy wrote:
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed the Libs get the #1 or #2 Pick then they'll do a Tina Charles sign and trade with the Mystics for the 2019 #10 Pick and 2020 1st Rd Pick

Whoever the hell is in charge in New York, they're not trading their one star player for two shitty draft picks.



for us to get Tina we gave up 3 first round picks. So Washington ISNT being gifted tina for two crap picks! It would be two first rounders and Messeman. Otherwise NO DEAL!!! Lets just giver our MVP away Mad Mad


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Liberty got lucky in the lotto. We're getting either McCowan or Brown.



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Well. I shouted happily in regard to something Liberty for the second time this year. The first time being Zellous' buzzer beater.

Watching the coverage, it was funny how Bill said "maybe an underclassman will want to play in Vegas" when everyone knows exactly who he means. I was laughing. Ionescu declaring would open up the Libs to their choice of seniors. Might also open up Plum as a trading piece. But most importantly, the opportunity exists to get a legitimate C, something the Libs unquestionably need and cannot pass up.



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I guess I have to get on board with Brown or McCowan.


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Liberty got lucky in the lotto. We're getting either McCowan or Brown.


Lovely news.



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Now that the Liberty have secured the #2 pick....Shopping Stokes and Zuhiu b would be a smart move.

Projected MPG next season:

Charles-32.0
#2 pk/post-25.0

That leaves 23 minutes for Stokes/Zahui


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I'm all for shopping Stokes now. Keep Zahui B. Stokes to Indiana for the #13 pick?



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I think it's great news that we have a choice, and at this moment I'm leaning toward taking a post. But people have to remember that the most important factor in a player's draft position is performance in her final season. I wouldn't get too wedded to any player right now. Let's see how it all plays out.



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I'm all for shopping Stokes now. Keep Zahui B. Stokes to Indiana for the #13 pick?


Phoenix has the #13 pick because Indiana already traded that pick for Kayla Alexander (and then Bill flipped that pick for Kelsey Bone).


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I'm glad the lottery is in a few days. At least we will have a better idea of where we stand in a short time instead of having to wait.


Praying for #2?


Prayers came trueeeeee. Laughing



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Do some NY fans still want KLS over Brown or Mccowan Now? Laughing I know the 2 bigs were not a hot Commodity to you all up north. Does that change with the #2 pick now? Laughing



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I think it's great news that we have a choice, and at this moment I'm leaning toward taking a post. But people have to remember that the most important factor in a player's draft position is performance in her final season. I wouldn't get too wedded to any player right now. Let's see how it all plays out.


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I think barring some extraordinary circumstances NY has to go big at #2 but I won't be surprised if Durr is the star of this class at the next level.


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I think it's great news that we have a choice, and at this moment I'm leaning toward taking a post. But people have to remember that the most important factor in a player's draft position is performance in her final season. I wouldn't get too wedded to any player right now. Let's see how it all plays out.


Should we all just come back in April? Wink


I think this will be a very interesting WCBB year with lots of star power. Seeing what player emerges as the Wade 🏆 winner should be exciting. Not sure if theres a consensus like years past.



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So if we go big at #2 (my crystal ball says Laimbeer takes McCowan but it is a coin toss) and we make all the Liberty Paris Kea fans happy at #14 we get

Boyd/Kea
Hartley/Rodgers
Nurse
Charles/Zahui B
Brown (or McCowan)/Stokes

3 spots left for maybe Zellous, NRE or more likely free agents, waiver wire and 3rd round pick.

vs what I thought would happen Durr at 4 Jennings at 14

Boyd/Hartley
Durr/Rodgers
Nurse
Charles/Zahui B
Stokes/Jennings


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