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| I still don't see Magbegor as a first rounder. Have you actually watched her play? She looked to me like she was a) a bit lost on the floor; b) didn't have much of a shot; and c) has a long way to go in the skill development area. She's athletic and active but I find it hard to believe that's enough at this level.
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| Posted: 01/30/19 7:51 pm ::: |
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Yes based off performance at that time i did have collier as #1 "Performance" wise not by team needs . Realistically shes not going to be #1 we all know that . She needs to play the 3 if shes going to be successful in this league. The Baylor game showed me alot as to what to expect at the next level regarding Collier. |
Once again, we must be watching different leagues. The power forward position in the WNBA, with exceptions like Vegas, and New York (note both were,lottery teams) is mostly occupied by players similar in size to Collier. Predicting her W performance based upon a game where she (and the whole undersized UConn team) were way too small makes no sense. |
Yes i do agree we both watch different leagues so lets just agree to disagree on this one you know this , shades.
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| Posted: 01/30/19 7:53 pm ::: |
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| I still don't see Magbegor as a first rounder. Have you actually watched her play? She looked to me like she was a) a bit lost on the floor; b) didn't have much of a shot; and c) has a long way to go in the skill development area. She's athletic and active but I find it hard to believe that's enough at this level. |
+1 i feel the whole Brondello Aussie theme is what brings most of the hype. Will it work? Possibly..is she the 8th best player in this draft today? Hellll 2 the No!
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| Posted: 01/30/19 8:03 pm ::: |
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| So if Vegas were to take Ionescu, would they start Plum, McBride and Ionescu together? |
He alluded to it. |
so do you think it would work? They can all score, but none can defend. They can't totally depend on A'ja as a backstop...can they? I think every successful team has at least one player who is a superior backcourt defender. |
I remember the Merc winning a title with Diana Taurasi, Cappie Pondexter, and Temeka Johnson...
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| Posted: 01/30/19 8:29 pm ::: |
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| So if Vegas were to take Ionescu, would they start Plum, McBride and Ionescu together? |
He alluded to it. |
so do you think it would work? They can all score, but none can defend. They can't totally depend on A'ja as a backstop...can they? I think every successful team has at least one player who is a superior backcourt defender. |
I remember the Merc winning a title with Diana Taurasi, Cappie Pondexter, and Temeka Johnson... |
Small backcourt, sure, but keep in mind they were backed up by the might of Penny Taylor & Tangela Smith in the paint.
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| Posted: 01/30/19 10:09 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
| myrtle wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| myrtle wrote: |
| So if Vegas were to take Ionescu, would they start Plum, McBride and Ionescu together? |
He alluded to it. |
so do you think it would work? They can all score, but none can defend. They can't totally depend on A'ja as a backstop...can they? I think every successful team has at least one player who is a superior backcourt defender. |
I remember the Merc winning a title with Diana Taurasi, Cappie Pondexter, and Temeka Johnson... |
Small backcourt, sure, but keep in mind they were backed up by the might of Penny Taylor & Tangela Smith in the paint. |
I also think the level/style of play/overall athleticism has developed immensely in just a few short years. I don't think that fivesome would win a title today. Could be wrong and of course we'll never know for sure.
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| Posted: 01/31/19 12:21 am ::: |
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updating my first two rounds no early entries
1. LV McCowan
2. NY Durr
3. Indy Brown
4. Chi Collier
5. Dallas Anigwe
6. Minn KLS
7. LA Ogunbowale
8. PX Magbegor
9. Conn Smith
10. Was Shepard
11. Atl Howard
12. Sea Gustafson
13. PX Turner
14. NY Xu Han
15. Chi Kea
16. Minn Bell
17. Dallas Dillard
18. Minn Cuningham
19. LA Jennings
20. Minn Li Yueru
21. Conn Laska
22. Dallas Hiedeman
23. Atl Robinson
24. Sea Cazorla
25. Indy Mabrey
26. NY Blockton
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| Posted: 01/31/19 12:32 am ::: |
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| myrtle wrote: |
| I still don't see Magbegor as a first rounder. Have you actually watched her play? She looked to me like she was a) a bit lost on the floor; b) didn't have much of a shot; and c) has a long way to go in the skill development area. She's athletic and active but I find it hard to believe that's enough at this level. |
+1 i feel the whole Brondello Aussie theme is what brings most of the hype. Will it work? Possibly..is she the 8th best player in this draft today? Hellll 2 the No! |
I agree but that doesn't stop me from thinking that Brondello will take her at 8 to develop her both for PX and the Opals. PX could wait until 13 but I think come 12 Hughes might decide to develop her for the Storm behind Howard, Stewart and Langhorn.
Because she is 20 it is easy to see a team taking her after the top 6 based on her potential, most coaches will have the huberis to believe they can bring her to the next level and with all the question marks surrounding the bottom first round/second round posts Ezi prototypical W size and athleticism raw as it is might seems worth the risk.
It is sort of like in the NBA when teams draft freshmen with the right measure-ables over the upper class-men with the superior statistics and skills but lacking transferable NBA size, strength and athleticism.
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| Posted: 01/31/19 1:41 am ::: |
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| Because she is 20 it is easy to see a team taking her after the top 6 based on her potential, most coaches will have the huberis to believe they can bring her to the next level and with all the question marks surrounding the bottom first round/second round posts Ezi prototypical W size and athleticism raw as it is might seems worth the risk. |
Yep, I agree with that part. Potential is always tempting once you get to that point of the draft where impact starts to tail off.
I disagree with Mechelle's comment that Ezi "has all the tools", because last time I checked being able to shoot the ball was a pretty standard tool in the sport of basketball, but I don't think too many other options have all the tools by pick #8 either. (As a general rule. I barely follow college ball so I'm not making specific comparisons when I say that)
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| Posted: 01/31/19 1:52 am ::: |
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I’ll give it a go:
1. Las Vegas - McCowan
2. New York - Durr
3. Indiana - Brown
4. Chicago - Collier
5. Dallas - Samuelson
6. Minnesota - Ogunbowale
7. Los Angeles - Cunningham
8. Phoenix - A. Smith
9. Connecticut - Han Xu
10. Washington - Anigwe
11. Atlanta - Howard
12. Seattle - Gustafson
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| Posted: 01/31/19 8:34 am ::: |
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I always love these height comparisons. In that picture, Mompremier looks much taller than Wilson and Shepard, but they are all listed at 6-4. Turner looks taller than Wilson and Shepard, but she's listed at 6-3.
In the front row, people are sitting so it's clearly deceptive. Nonetheless, you wonder how much is optical illusion and how much is real. Paris Kea (5-8 ) looks as tall as Mariya Moore (6-0) and taller than Atkins (5-11) and Destinee Walker (5-10). Kea is supposedly the same height as Caldwell, sitting to her right.
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| Posted: 01/31/19 8:58 am ::: |
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I always love these height comparisons. In that picture, Mompremier looks much taller than Wilson and Shepard, but they are all listed at 6-4. Turner looks taller than Wilson and Shepard, but she's listed at 6-3.
In the front row, people are sitting so it's clearly deceptive. Nonetheless, you wonder how much is optical illusion and how much is real. Paris Kea (5-8 ) looks as tall as Mariya Moore (6-0) and taller than Atkins (5-11) and Destinee Walker (5-10). Kea is supposedly the same height as Caldwell, sitting to her right. |
From watching ND play GA Tech in person I was pretty well convinced Turner was taller than Shepard.
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| Posted: 01/31/19 10:36 am ::: |
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I’ll give it a go:
1. Las Vegas - McCowan
2. New York - Durr
3. Indiana - Brown
4. Chicago - Collier
5. Dallas - Samuelson
6. Minnesota - Ogunbowale
7. Los Angeles - Cunningham
8. Phoenix - A. Smith
9. Connecticut - Han Xu
10. Washington - Anigwe
11. Atlanta - Howard
12. Seattle - Gustafson |
This seems very realistic other than Cunningham going 7th . Great Mock!
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| Posted: 01/31/19 1:02 pm ::: |
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updating my first two rounds no early entries
1. LV McCowan
2. NY Durr
3. Indy Brown
4. Chi Collier
5. Dallas Anigwe
6. Minn KLS
7. LA Ogunbowale
8. PX Magbegor
9. Conn Smith
10. Was Shepard
11. Atl Howard
12. Sea Gustafson
13. PX Turner
14. NY Xu Han
15. Chi Kea
16. Minn Bell
17. Dallas Dillard
18. Minn Cuningham
19. LA Jennings
20. Minn Li Yueru
21. Conn Laska
22. Dallas Hiedeman
23. Atl Robinson
24. Sea Cazorla
25. Indy Mabrey
26. NY Blockton |
Great mock! I'm with you and agree on your top picks, especially. I can see Collier doing well in Chicago with Williams and DeShields and Dolson (and Quigley assuming she stays and of course CVS). Debbie Antonelli is high on her for the WNBA. (in case that holds any water...
My questions is 6 vs. 7. I could see that being flipped. I wonder what Reeve thinks of Ogunbowale in general, but KLS might be a better bet with her height, shooting ability and that good ole' UConn pedigree.
I can imagine Thibault might prefer Gustafson to Sheperd - for some reason I'm not that impressed with Sheperd this year. Slimmer, yes, but is she as tough to defend in the paint? Gustafson just seems automatic.
Love Anriel to ATL. She's a local GA girl and her hustle will help them - she can provide energy minutes and not be pressured to move to the '3' right away in a back-up role.
People need to check out Natisha Hideman and if Marquette goes deep in the tourney and she plays well, I can see her going as high as 14/15 over Paris Kea and Bell.
I can see Anigwe going pretty high in the draft, ahead of several posts on "higher profile" college teams. Should help Dallas and if LV trades the top pick and Moriah Jefferson for Cambage, they are not in bad shape at all.
I think Cunningham has a chance to be a contributor in the WNBA, but she's not a first-rounder.
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| Posted: 01/31/19 1:24 pm ::: |
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| I can see Collier doing well in Chicago with Williams and DeShields and Dolson (and Quigley assuming she stays and of course CVS). |
They can all slide elsewhere at least a bit, but that could end up looking pretty overcrowded at the 3 between DeShields, Williams and Collier. Better hope one of the UConn products eventually becomes a long-term 4 if you're going to keep them all on the same roster. |
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| Posted: 01/31/19 1:47 pm ::: |
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Chicago also has Copper, who Wade claimed he was high on.
Collier or KLS might be the BPA at #4. If they take Collier, they must be hoping she can play PF at this level, just like they hoped Gabby could do the same last season.
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| Posted: 01/31/19 8:54 pm ::: Re: Graves discusses possibility of Ionescu entering WNBA Dr |
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https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Article/Sabrina-Ionescu-Kelly-Graves-Oregon-Womens-Basketball--128536317/
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She'll have all of 24 hours to decide 'after the season' if Oregon make the Final Four. |
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