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PostPosted: 03/10/19 9:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Too much hatred of other human beings. Too much judging of people by lumping them or their voices together according to their skin color or age or gender.

AOC’s questioning of Cohen was so refreshingly wonderful because it steered completely away from the standard preachy bullshit and grandstanding. If she could continue to do that in her overall presentation of herself and her politics she would be an irresistible force in American public life.

Someone should take this message from an old not-so-rich white dude to her. If she heeds it, she’d be smart in the America we all live in. If she doesn’t, then she isn’t quite as smart as one old white guy.



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PostPosted: 03/10/19 4:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

At this point, the self-identified Democratic Socialists like AOC and Sanders are not proposing socialist policies (even if they will be characterized as socialism by the status quo) as that would revolve around a change in the ownership of corporations. Free healthcare and free college are only one step up from Medicare/Medicaid and free K-12 and can be part of a capitalist system. We also have mandates in states about renewable energy targets and zero emission car goals. Universal Basic Income would be a more radical step up from unemployment/Social Security (and would run incongruent with our infinite immigration policy and strong support for illegal immigration), but still not a part of the definition of socialism. But, the Democratic Socialists of America does say on their website that, while they know it won't come right away, their goal is a dramatic change in the ownership of corporations. But if and when they try and institute that, then the voters can let them know whether or not they want it.

What I would like to see enter the public debate via these alleged extremist politicians is a massive shrinkage in the defense budget. I saw someone matter-of-factly say that we couldn't have free medical care like Europe because we spent so much on the military. But they weren't saying "and we need to reduce military spending for that reason", they were going along with a need for our "bigger than the next 7 nations combined" military spending. The Green Party had a 50% cut in the defense budget (which would still have us #1 in military spending) as part of their platform, but due to the two-party system wasn't able to make a case for it on the big stage.


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PostPosted: 03/11/19 5:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 03/15/19 7:29 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
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We need more AOC!!!!!!

These old guys have got to be getting scared of her by now.



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PostPosted: 03/17/19 10:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1107011280236412928/pu/vid/720x1280/_ZuNbX2wm_nsZxC1.mp4



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PostPosted: 03/18/19 8:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

AOC is going to be on Colbert Wednesday.

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PostPosted: 03/18/19 11:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just don't touch any of the socks all over the floor. Laughing



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PostPosted: 03/18/19 6:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

In the studio or this thread?



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PostPosted: 03/18/19 6:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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AOC is going to be on Colbert Wednesday.


I'm not seeing it. Got a link?

I noticed looking for it that she's finally scheduled for Seth Meyer on Friday.



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PostPosted: 03/18/19 7:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Ex-Ref wrote:
AOC is going to be on Colbert Wednesday.


I'm not seeing it. Got a link?

I noticed looking for it that she's finally scheduled for Seth Meyer on Friday.


No link, but CBS advertised it over the weekend, and then I checked my on-screen guide and it's there.



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PostPosted: 03/20/19 10:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ex-Ref wrote:
Shades wrote:
Ex-Ref wrote:
AOC is going to be on Colbert Wednesday.


I'm not seeing it. Got a link?

I noticed looking for it that she's finally scheduled for Seth Meyer on Friday.


No link, but CBS advertised it over the weekend, and then I checked my on-screen guide and it's there.


It was a pre-recorded comedy bit where she most likely went by a script. She wasn’t a live guest.



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PostPosted: 03/21/19 7:30 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Ex-Ref wrote:
Shades wrote:
Ex-Ref wrote:
AOC is going to be on Colbert Wednesday.


I'm not seeing it. Got a link?

I noticed looking for it that she's finally scheduled for Seth Meyer on Friday.


No link, but CBS advertised it over the weekend, and then I checked my on-screen guide and it's there.


It was a pre-recorded comedy bit where she most likely went by a script. She wasn’t a live guest.



Yeah, they didn't say that. When they said that she was going to be on, I thought that it meant she was going to be sitting in the chair doing an interview type appearance. It was disappointing.



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PostPosted: 03/21/19 2:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
It was a pre-recorded comedy bit where she most likely went by a script. She wasn’t a live guest.


Here’s the bit.
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Shades wrote:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1107011280236412928/pu/vid/720x1280/_ZuNbX2wm_nsZxC1.mp4


In case you never explored this link, it looks like Now This acquired the video.

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PostPosted: 03/27/19 2:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Anyone doubting her talents and future should watch that video. I’ve never seen anyone like her before in American politics.



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PostPosted: 03/27/19 3:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Who knew the Messiah might come back as a bright Latina...! Cool



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The only thing I’d like to say and this is now borderline unacceptable for a straight guy to be saying, but she should lose the Ruth Bader Ginsburg garb and just OWN the fucking fashion badass white suits, red suits, hot little black dresses, hair down, full makeup, etc. Stop trying to play down the youth and beauty and trying to make yourself look like someone who should be taken seriously. Believe me, despite whatever gaffs you make once in a while, you’re being taken plenty seriously.



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PostPosted: 03/27/19 7:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

jammerbirdi wrote:
The only thing I’d like to say and this is now borderline unacceptable for a straight guy to be saying, but she should lose the Ruth Bader Ginsburg garb and just OWN the fucking fashion badass white suits, red suits, hot little black dresses, hair down, full makeup, etc. Stop trying to play down the youth and beauty and trying to make yourself look like someone who should be taken seriously. Believe me, despite whatever gaffs you make once in a while, you’re being taken plenty seriously.


I wish she was ble to do that.

The amount of criticism she’d take for being pretty (and the distraction it would cause, instead of her actions) wouldn’t be worth it.



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mercfan3 wrote:
jammerbirdi wrote:
The only thing I’d like to say and this is now borderline unacceptable for a straight guy to be saying, but she should lose the Ruth Bader Ginsburg garb and just OWN the fucking fashion badass white suits, red suits, hot little black dresses, hair down, full makeup, etc. Stop trying to play down the youth and beauty and trying to make yourself look like someone who should be taken seriously. Believe me, despite whatever gaffs you make once in a while, you’re being taken plenty seriously.


I wish she was ble to do that.

The amount of criticism she’d take for being pretty (and the distraction it would cause, instead of her actions) wouldn’t be worth it.


I think part of the youth and change thing is breaking old traditions and expectations and the noses of those trying to uphold them. Then again I don’t live back east and I do remember how twisted up shit like this is back there.



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PostPosted: 03/27/19 9:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mercfan3 wrote:
jammerbirdi wrote:
The only thing I’d like to say and this is now borderline unacceptable for a straight guy to be saying, but she should lose the Ruth Bader Ginsburg garb and just OWN the fucking fashion badass white suits, red suits, hot little black dresses, hair down, full makeup, etc. Stop trying to play down the youth and beauty and trying to make yourself look like someone who should be taken seriously. Believe me, despite whatever gaffs you make once in a while, you’re being taken plenty seriously.


I wish she was ble to do that.

The amount of criticism she’d take for being pretty (and the distraction it would cause, instead of her actions) wouldn’t be worth it.


Anddd....howzbout the novel concept that she's actually dressing in a way she's most comfortable and best reflects her own professional identity. Wink Bright and capable as she is, I hope she doesn't lose a moment's focus on what she *looks* like.

Too many Americans are already shallow enough [read: Kardashian fanz, et. al.]. We do NOT need a bright (REAL) star to follow any trending looks.



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