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PostPosted: 07/08/18 5:54 pm    ::: Sun’s Williams Absent From Team Due To Altercation Reply Reply with quote

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Connecticut Sun guard Courtney Williams has been absent from the team’s West Coast trip due to a physical altercation with teammate Alex Bentley in a public location, multiple league sources tell WNBAinsidr. The team had reported that Williams was away from the team and did not make the trip due to personal reasons.


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PostPosted: 07/08/18 6:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yikes i thought they all got along pretty well. I guess losing doesnt help



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PostPosted: 07/08/18 6:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This is can't be good. I guess Williams isn't one of those that have "good locker room moral".



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PostPosted: 07/08/18 6:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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This is can't be good. I guess Williams isn't one of those that have "good locker room moral".

1 incident. Lets not overreact



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PostPosted: 07/08/18 6:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I wonder if this means she's on the trade block



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PostPosted: 07/08/18 6:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I wonder if this means she's on the trade block


I'm sure Phoenix would take her back.



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PostPosted: 07/08/18 6:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Who needs a Shooting Guard?


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PostPosted: 07/08/18 6:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yikes! I hate to hear this...

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Who needs a Shooting Guard?


If the former USF guard is looking to make a change, Florida West would be great! Speedy guard with midrange and outside game would suuuurrree help my Sparks!! lol!


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PostPosted: 07/08/18 7:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Is this even true? Who are these sources who wrote this story? Are they credible?


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PostPosted: 07/08/18 7:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kaela Davis for Courtney Williams? Laughing



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PostPosted: 07/08/18 7:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I dont think this story is true...Theres a photo of Alex and C will at a night club together and C will commented o n Another recent phot of bentleys saying "Lit" Laughing



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PostPosted: 07/08/18 7:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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This is can't be good. I guess Williams isn't one of those that have "good locker room moral".


How do you know she was the one who initiated it?


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PostPosted: 07/08/18 8:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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toad455 wrote:
This is can't be good. I guess Williams isn't one of those that have "good locker room moral".


How do you know she was the one who initiated it?


My guess would be because she is missing games and bentley is getting playing time Wink but what ive seen in snspchat takeovers is that they are pretty good friends. So this would be pretty strange



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PostPosted: 07/09/18 12:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

"Multiple sources" verified the altercation but no one can say what type of altercation it was or where it happened. I can understand how "multiple sources" couldn't comment on her scope of absence from the team. That would be a decision for other multiple sources to decide.

So multiple people saw this to verify say something happened but no one can say where it took place or how it happened.


I find that strange and a little unbelievable.


BTW, I am one in Phoenix who would take her back. Never wanted her to go.


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PostPosted: 07/09/18 1:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The problem with "not gonna play" punishments is that it hurts the team as much as the player. If the team can issue the player a fine that's what I would do instead of loss of playing time.


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PostPosted: 07/09/18 7:20 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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"Multiple sources" verified the altercation but no one can say what type of altercation it was or where it happened. I can understand how "multiple sources" couldn't comment on her scope of absence from the team. That would be a decision for other multiple sources to decide.

So multiple people saw this to verify say something happened but no one can say where it took place or how it happened.


I find that strange and a little unbelievable.


BTW, I am one in Phoenix who would take her back. Never wanted her to go.


She could play the 4 for the Mercury. She's averaging 6 rebounds a game.


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PostPosted: 07/09/18 11:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Trade!!! Clarendon to Connecticut for Bentley. There it is.



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PostPosted: 07/09/18 11:35 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I was just about to post the same. Pretty good value for CT. Good fit for Clarendon, who should work well with CT’s propensity for high tempo play.



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Also, getting Clarendon will enable Banham to only cover SG which hopefully gets her more PPG.



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PostPosted: 07/09/18 11:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Are they going to play Jasmine Thomas at the 2aswell because I think Clarendon is a player that needs more minutes to be effective



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PostPosted: 07/09/18 11:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Also, getting Clarendon will enable Banham to only cover SG which hopefully gets her more PPG.

Banham's not played much point anyway. Bentley was the backup PG most of the time.



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On the other side, Bentley is better than Monty IMO. And she fits well with Atlanta.



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On the other side, Bentley is better than Monty IMO. And she fits well with Atlanta.


That's what I'm thinking. However, Bentley has shown she can play off the bench so they may not rock the boat much.


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On the other side, Bentley is better than Monty IMO. And she fits well with Atlanta.


Hmm she is a gunner though. Angel, Hayes and Sykes are pretty similar. Lets hope that goes well



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So i guess the story was true after all . Sucks to see friendships end . Should make for an interesting match up when these 2 go head to head.



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myrtle wrote:
On the other side, Bentley is better than Monty IMO. And she fits well with Atlanta.


Hmm she is a gunner though. Angel, Hayes and Sykes are pretty similar. Lets hope that goes well


Bentley played well her rookie year with Angel and Hayes. We gave her up in the Blockbuster Ajavon deal...........


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Bentley is a better off-the-ball offensive player than Clarendon, a good trait when playing with Angel. Honestly a pretty good trade for both teams strictly on basketball terms, which is not always apparent in a trade where extracurriculars are clearly in the equation.



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I think this is a little bit telling (from Sun Press Release).

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“We are excited about obtaining Layshia,” Connecticut Sun General Manager and head coach Curt Miller said. “She’s a talented and savvy guard with a great reputation as a leader on and off the court. She was thrilled when we spoke, and can’t wait to arrive in Connecticut.”



Apparently Layshia is not wasting anytime packing or getting to the airport. Bentley and Williams may not have been the only clashing personalities involved in this.


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PostPosted: 07/09/18 12:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I’m sure I’m not alone in believing Layshia is better than Montgomery. It’s gotta hurt to go from all-star to sub when the player playing in front of you is no all-star.



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PostPosted: 07/09/18 12:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hard to say. Does Clarendon feel entitled to be a starter?

Seems like she was yesterday’s news when she first arrived at ATL.
Who did ATL trade to get her? (Did my own research. She cost ATL’s 2017 second round pick.)

Miller’s statement seems pretty template for him. Of course, anybody’s thrilled to be going to Connecticut.



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PostPosted: 07/09/18 12:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
I think this is a little bit telling (from Sun Press Release).

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“We are excited about obtaining Layshia,” Connecticut Sun General Manager and head coach Curt Miller said. “She’s a talented and savvy guard with a great reputation as a leader on and off the court. She was thrilled when we spoke, and can’t wait to arrive in Connecticut.”



Apparently Layshia is not wasting anytime packing or getting to the airport. Bentley and Williams may not have been the only clashing personalities involved in this.

I don't think that necessarily has anything to do with personalities. You couldn't blame Clarendon for being excited to get out of Atlanta with how this season has gone for her. After the breakthrough two years ago following the trade, then everyone singing her praises when her assists skyrocketed last year (and a Team USA call), she finds herself benched behind a career backup. She's been playing pretty poorly in the minutes she's gotten as well, just to compound things.

However it came about on the other side of things, getting the hell out of Atlanta has to feel like a good thing to Clarendon.



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That's why we all thought Clarendon would be heading out of town since the day Montgomery was signed. It seems Collen (maybe correctly) thinks your 1 has to have a 3 point shot. Bentley is about a 31% 3 point shooter - ok but not great while Clarendon has been below 20% for 2 seasons now.


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That's why we all thought Clarendon would be heading out of town since the day Montgomery was signed. It seems Collen (maybe correctly) thinks your 1 has to have a 3 point shot. Bentley is about a 31% 3 point shooter - ok but not great while Clarendon has been below 20% for 2 seasons now.


I thought Miller was the one who was high on three point shooting. I guess he may need to hire you to help him out with player evaluations.



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PostPosted: 07/09/18 2:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So strange, why suspend Williams then trade Bentley, someones gotta get the scoop here.


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So strange, why suspend Williams then trade Bentley, someones gotta get the scoop here.


Megdal is supposed to be the unOffical WNBA Muckraker. Where is he now that he is actually needed?


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So strange, why suspend Williams then trade Bentley, someones gotta get the scoop here.


From the very first, I thought Bentley was the one who would go. C.Williams is WAY better. I don't know why Courtney was the one to miss games as my money has always been on Bentley as instigator.

One scenario is Bentley was the aggressor and Williams didn't feel safe, but they couldn't prove that Bentley did anything. Putting Williams on paid leave would be proper until the threat was removed. This was done fairly quickly. Getting an uptempo PG who's willing to fight for PT (instead of having the PT she earned stolen out from under her) seems like a good deal. It's not like CT is gonna bring in Lindsay Allen and make her a starter...



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So strange, why suspend Williams then trade Bentley, someones gotta get the scoop here.

Let's not start saying she was suspended - that's the sort of thing that gets repeated enough times and ends up being believed as fact. She was away from the team 'for personal reasons' after a reported altercation. If there was an actual suspension we probably would've heard about it, because that means official paperwork with the league and the players' association.



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Hard to say. Does Clarendon feel entitled to be a starter?

Seems like she was yesterday’s news when she first arrived at ATL.
Who did ATL trade to get her? (Did my own research. She cost ATL’s 2017 second round pick.)

Miller’s statement seems pretty template for him. Of course, anybody’s thrilled to be going to Connecticut.


Actually, it was New York's 2nd rounder that we got in the Schimmel trade



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Randy wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
So strange, why suspend Williams then trade Bentley, someones gotta get the scoop here.


Megdal is supposed to be the unOffical WNBA Muckraker. Where is he now that he is actually needed?


I have a feeling he’s all over this story. He’s probably one of the multiple sources.



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Okay...Bentley got traded...but is Williams still safe?




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One of the original "WNBAInsidr" bros was Eli Horowitz, who got hired in May by the Sparks for some kind of PR work...that's most likely their "source".



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Okay...Bentley got traded...but is Williams still safe?


Maybe Williams was not safe so they kept her out of games until they could trade Bently. It was never stated that Williams was suspended. IMO Bently seems to be a hot head and I have never cared for watching her play. She seemed to have a "better than thou attitude".


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zune69 wrote:
Okay...Bentley got traded...but is Williams still safe?


Maybe Williams was not safe so they kept her out of games until they could trade Bently. It was never stated that Williams was suspended. IMO Bently seems to be a hot head and I have never cared for watching her play. She seemed to have a "better than thou attitude".


If Williams was in any danger,I would expect her teammates to rally around her and come to her defense.If Bentley was a malcontent,she would've been removed from the team...As for Bentley's attitude.She's not the first player who's been accused of being cocky...Just because Bentley openly shows her confidence doesn't mean she's a bad person.




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Williams is at the season ticket holder event tonight with the team. Alyssa Thomas participated in the practice against the male players so shes ready to go. Miller said Clarendon arrives tomorrow. All is restored in the land of the rising 🌞


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Interesting speculation...I'll add mine. Maybe CW has some facial abrasions. Maybe the plan was to "showcase" Bentley to facilitate a trade. Maybe CW just needed time off.

I'm glad Bentley is gone. She thinks she's a better shooter than she is, and she takes enough inappropriate shots to piss me off.

Won't be missed at all, imo.

Clarendon is a dead ringer for John Turturro, imo.

Smile

She'll be, at the very least, a capable PG backup w/ a great attitude and work ethic.

Good deal for the Sun.



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It is impossible to know or guess who was at fault and why any of these things developed the way they did. Could be either CW or AB at fault, or just a dust up between two players on the same team - something which happens from time to time. If AB was a troublemaker, I think Collen would know that and not trade Clarendon - from all accounts a high character person - for her. If CW was a big problem I would imagine Miller would have tried and succeeded in moving her along. Clarendon was simply not fitting in with the Dream under the new regime and (like AB and J Thomas before her) sent to Sunny Connecticut in exchange for what we hope is a better fit. So far all the Dream players that have gone there did better than they were doing before.


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PostPosted: 07/09/18 7:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Collen interviewed today...absolutely nothing about the "incident".

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/wnbainsidr-podcast/id1344311724?mt=2#episodeGuid=58fa82fa1e5b6c7e20e71019%3A5a760a17085229a6163992f7%3A5b43db39f950b7ecba572a16



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If it was “just a dust-up”, I would think a well-managed team would be able to smooth things out. It must have been bad enough to potentially risk the season for CON.



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All else not withstanding, it's safe to assume that Collen asked Angel and others who have played with AB to weigh in before making the move.



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PostPosted: 07/09/18 7:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
If it was “just a dust-up”, I would think a well-managed team would be able to smooth things out. It must have been bad enough to potentially risk the season for CON.


True. It was bad enough to the point the organization or the one or both of the players themselves felt like they couldn't play on the same team. Maybe Miller isn't a strong enough leader to control his locker room.


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