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https://deadspin.com/tina-charles-came-home-to-win-a-title-instead-she-wou-1827301691

[Richyyy]

That seems like a lot to pay for a potentially disgruntled player with limited likely destinations who's about to hit 30. It's arguably more than they gave up for Delle Donne.

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[Aladyyn]

Meesseman AND Atkins? That's gotta be a no from me.

[Shades]

If Brunson shows any signs of retirement (she could probably go for another season), Minnesota would be a perfect fit for her including a full-size upgraded arena plus a very high probability of winning a championship.

The Mystics, on the other hand, aren’t a great fit unless maybe she goes back to the center position, plus you’d have another questionable small arena situation.

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[PUmatty]

Why would any team give up that much for a proven malcontent who is likely to demand a trade again?

[Richyyy]

[PUmatty]

[toad455]

Charles going to DC would force her back to the center position. She's hasn't really had to play the 5 since being in New York once Laimbeer came in. Tina doesn't seem to want to band around inside, so you have to wonder if she's willing to change how she plays to go there. Maybe Charles for Hawkins and their 1st rounder? I have to believe that if the Liberty are stuck in Westchester, this will be the future result, a bunch of rookies and washed up FAs.

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[NYL_WNBA_FAN]

DC has been using Pringle and Thomas at C so it doesn't have to be a given that Tina would play C. It would enable EDD to move to the 3 spot. And it would give DC a very formidable "big 3" of Toliver, Tina and EDD. It would also take some scoring and rebounding pressure off of Tina, maybe increasing her longevity.

As for NY, man, you better get a lot for a player who is still a top 10 player. I'm not taking anything ridiculous though. I'd rather Tina sit out than take way below market value.

The larger scale trade above isn't bad but who's to say whether EM would even want to play for the Libs or not? The Liberty can still core Tina next year so unless she were to demand a trade it's still not going to happen. And going to DC to their small arena, while a clear step up from the garbage we are playing in, still isn't a major step up in terms of things like notoriety.

I respect Megdal and the article has relevance given the Libs' extremely poor play and the lack of contribution from her teammates on either side of the ball. That being said, it's still purely speculative.

Also, if the Libs wind up in the lottery, they have what, a 25% chance to get one of the top two picks? That's not a terrible deal, particularly if Ionescu comes out and you either luck into her or the post player of your choice. So, whatever Tina's thoughts might be right now, those thoughts could potentially change based on what next year's team looks like.

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[zune69]

Tina to Chicago for Gabby & the Sky's 2019 1st rd pk

[mavcarter]

[sigur3]

"Exile??"

This after she half-assed her way through the 2013 season because she was unhappy with management and then forced a trade to NY?

Hard pass on that, thanks.

Unless the WNBA gets involved, that's wayyyyyy too much for Washington to give up.

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[J-Spoon]

I would rather just cross fingers for new ownership group that gets the Liberty back in the 5 boroughs in 19 but how about

Charles and NY's 2nd round pick for Hayes, IMS and Atl first round pick (trying to keep it reasonable).

I don't think Washington has the right pieces, Meesseman is too much of a risk, EDD and Toliver aren't going anywhere so you left with guards that aren't too different from what we have and a mid to late first round pick pick.

[myrtle]

I'm guessing it would be Tina for Meeseman plus one - either Atkins or SWK or TRP or maybe the first rounder. If it's a go-to-Washington and nothing else, you won't be so lucky as to get much more than that.

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[Shades]

Feeling a need for another guard, Spooner?

Hayes at NYL probably just becomes another Prince.

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[Randy]

My fear is the she would go ring shopping and head to the the Twin Cities or possibly Phoenix. Lynx would have a trouble finding tradable assets to give up, but that never stopped them from getting Fowles. Mercury likewise don't have any player they would give up remotely worth Tina so it's drafts picks which themselves won't be worth much.

Having said all that in the WNBA star player make the rules of their own.

As for the DC deal - seems roughly fair to me (maybe not including AA or the FRP - IDK) except that Emma may just decide herself to pass on the WNBA. She has less reason than anyone to play in the WNBA.

Who knows maybe this would be the time for owners to grow a backbone and just let her sit till she gets tired of sitting.

[Richyyy]

[J-Spoon]

I don't see a move like this happening until the off season. NY fates would have tone determined first.

I assume she only signed her core contract 1 year deal.

New ownership back to NYC she stays

Team folds she becomes ufa and controls her own fate.

Team relocates somewhere she doesn't want to go or stays another season in Westchester limbo under league or current management she demands a trade.

[toad455]

Charles for Bonner and the Mercury's first rounder? Dupree for Rodgers & Stokes?

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[ClayK]

Assuming there is a franchise, the owners will likely core her. She presumably would then say "I'm not playing unless I get traded to DC/Minnesota/wherever."

But since the team (call them the Liberty) won't be much better off taking a bad deal than having Tina sit, there's some leverage on both sides. (It's not like the Liberty will be competing for a title next year, with or without Tina -- especially if Katie Smith is still there.)

Question: If a player is cored and sits out, what's her contract status? Does that count as a year of coring, or is the year just erased?

Conceivably, the Liberty could just keep coring her and she would not be able to play in the WNBA again unless she played for them ... though the contract may preclude that.

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[J-Spoon]

Could Charles and Wilson work as position-less front court?

Charles and NY 2nd round pick for Jefferson and LV first round pick.

NY gets a starting level pg when healthy and two lottery picks in 19 to rebuild and bring excitement.

Charles Wilson McBride is a contending core

[zune69]

Tina & Hartley to Dallas for Johnson & Powers.