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PostPosted: 06/09/18 3:48 pm    ::: Fever @ Liberty - 6/10/18 Reply Reply with quote

White Plains, NY - 3:00 PM ET
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PostPosted: 06/09/18 4:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I hope the Liberty can get an easy win.



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PostPosted: 06/09/18 4:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Libs may finally have someone to beat...but I wouldn't bet on it. I mean Indy has got to win a game sometime.



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PostPosted: 06/09/18 6:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Libs may finally have someone to beat...but I wouldn't bet on it. I mean Indy has got to win a game sometime.


Yes they do BUT not against us....PLEASE !

I'll take any win ... would be nice to have one that is easy



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PostPosted: 06/09/18 9:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's sad that the Pride game last year at MSG drew over 11k and this year we'll probably only see 1,500 at WCC.



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PostPosted: 06/09/18 10:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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It's sad that the Pride game last year at MSG drew over 11k and this year we'll probably only see 1,500 at WCC.


Sad yes Toad, but it is what it is ...at least there is still a team !



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 12:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I hope the Liberty can get an easy win.


Could Indiana be thinking revenge? They should have won the last matchup and it seems kelsey mitchell is becoming more comfortable game by game. NY are the only team to need OT to beat Indiana so im not so sure it will be a cakewalk.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 1:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Even worse this is a trap game and a near must win for the Liberty.

Indy is playing with house money, they're down their best veteran player and best post scorer in Dupree. They're on the road and aren't expected to win so all the pressure is off. NY on the other hand is struggling, might have some chemistry issues trying to reintegrate some of their players who have missed a lot of time, seem to be having an identity crisis and if they lose to the current worst team in the league on their own "home" court could also be having a crisis in confidence that could keep them on a downward spiral. NY is already 2-4, 2-5 is a pretty deep hole to climb out of even this early in the season.

I would basically sick our two best perimeter defenders on K. Mitchell and Wheeler and see if anyone else on the fever can make the offense happen.

Also Charles needs to get a minimum of 20 shots against the less than overwhelming Fever front court.


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PostPosted: 06/10/18 7:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

do we know yet if stokes is in or out?


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Looking ahead, we have 8 games in 14 days starting 6/22. By then, you’d expect Boyd and Sugar to physically be able to handle more minutes. I’d expect Stokes to be back at that point too as she’s only in a boot. Piph’s concussion obviously is anyone’s guess. But I feel if we have a solid 11-player rotation for that stretch, it’s going to be imperative. No way we can stay 8 or 9-deep for that type of stretch. I think people are seriously underestimating the team but I’m good with that. Adding Boyd, Nurse and Coleman to a 22-win team should count for something, even with the talent spread throughout the rest of the league.

That said, we are shooting 29.4% from 3 in an offense that has resulted in a stunning amount of open 3s. I can get on Katie for the lineups at the end of games. I can also question the poor ball movement in the final four minutes of games (where Tina is getting killed in the post and they don’t reverse the ball to get her better post position on the weak side). But generally speaking I love what they are trying to do. Turnovers are down, open shots are up and Tina definitely has more room to operate, even with all our missing players. Once they clean up the late-game stuff they’re going to be ok. Can’t dig too deep a hole though. Kelsey Mitchell is hitting her stride now. Without Dupree this isn’t a game we can afford to lose.

All the above said, I think in a few weeks the Libs will look very different in terms of depth, rotations and hopefully winning.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

so NY is seeing if they can either keep the ball out of Tina's hands...or give it to her for 20' shots. hmmm. great plan.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Can we please not play Tina 36/37 minutes today.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If only Brittany Boyd can convert her layups this season!



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Can we please not play Tina 36/37 minutes today.


how about actually use her when she's in.

This is just ugly bball.

Boyd can't make a layup...but makes a three. Lots of flash anyway and some nice passes.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Charles took 6 shots in the first quarter. That's not using her enough?



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

i was typing that i don't mind watching KMitchell fuck up as a result of her ball-hogging college bs style (she dribbled around on the perimeter, made a worthless 4-ft pass, received the ball back immediately then dribbled herself into a corner double-team and threw a turnover), when Zow B clocked her with a wonderful, legit screen.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd like to see Zahui play alongside Charles. They seem to have a good two-man game. Hasn't happened so far in this game.



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I just don't understand how the box score on .com is behind. ESPN is typically up to speed.



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It would be nice to hear the announcers over the background noise. Well, I was thinking that, but actually what I can hear, they aren't really talking about the game anyway. So mute is in effect. Of course, the game is so ugly it's hard to blame them for trying to find something else to talk about.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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i was typing that i don't mind watching KMitchell fuck up as a result of her ball-hogging college bs style (she dribbled around on the perimeter, made a worthless 4-ft pass, received the ball back immediately then dribbled herself into a corner double-team and threw a turnover), when Zow B clocked her with a wonderful, legit screen.


Well, it's kinda the same with Wheeler...which to me indicates another problem...like the no offense, offense. Not much movement until somebody gets the ball, then they try to do it all by themselves.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

going for the lowest scoring half this year? Ugly ugly ugly.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 2:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

STOP USING THE SMALL LINE-UP!!!!



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Gwthmey still a candidate for the player who is played way too much.



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Minor-league stadium; minor-league shot clock.



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I don't get why Mavunga and McCall are shooting from so far out. Do they normally do that?



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Our three point shooting is actually saving us this game.



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No Rebecca Allen in the first half. Very limited minutes (4:41) for Brittany Boyd.



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Hard to see exactly why Gwathmey is even on the Fever, let alone playing.



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I never understood how Gwathmey has been playing in the league now 3 years.



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 3:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm not sure why 6 pts and 4 ast is getting so much hate.



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Zahui!



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PostPosted: 06/10/18 3:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yet another screen from Zahui frees up Rodgers for a three.



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horizontal stripes are not Katie's friends in the moment.



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Rodgers in all star form today. Lib fans still p want to trade her this week or wait til next? Laughing



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Rodgers in all star form today. Lib fans still p want to trade her this week or wait til next? Laughing

Probably want to trade her while her value is up!


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Rodgers is hot, so why take her out in the final minutes?



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Rodgers in all star form today. Lib fans still p want to trade her this week or wait til next? Laughing


Now its Hartley to the rescue. All the Lib fans least favs bailing them out today. Smile



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Rodgers is hot, so why take her out in the final minutes?


Perhaps K Smith doesn't believe in the Hot Hand fallacy



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Exciting game. Making up for a lackluster first half.


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Vivians showing no fear! Breakout game for her?


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Great shot by Coleman to give the Lib a 3 point lead.


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That was a terrible possession by the Fever. The Liberty win!


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That was a terrible possession by the Fever. The Liberty win!


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That last Fever possession looked completely uncoached.


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78-75 NYL final

Rodgers 16 pts, 3 reb, 2 ast

K Mitchell 19 pts, 3 reb, 4 ast, 1 stl



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Liberty pull this one out somehow. Solid bench production and very little use of the small line-up.



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We need more rebounding!

Good game otherwise.


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I know that New York was without Prince and Stokes today. I know that Tina Charles won't often shoot 4-15. Nevertheless, barely winning a home game against a winless team without Dupree doesn't encourage me much.

The Liberty had only three offensive rebounds and had 15 turnovers. They shot an outstanding 13-24 from three-point range (Rodgers 5-9), a stat I believe the team won't often match.

It was noteworthy that the Liberty's best run of the game came with these five players on the court: Charles, Nurse, Zahui B., Boyd, and Rodgers. One starter and four subs.

As for Katie Smith's substitution choices (I've been one of the critics), today she brought in Marissa Coleman--who'd been sitting for quite a while--for the crucial offensive possession. Smith got that one right.



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