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Michelle89
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toad455
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Posted: 06/05/18 11:51 am ::: |
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Liberty can't but a foul, yet Mercury are getting all the calls.
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toad455
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Posted: 06/05/18 11:54 am ::: |
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Why isn't Zahui B back in? This small line up doesn't work.
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zune69
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Posted: 06/05/18 11:54 am ::: |
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Bonner with a quiet 18 points.
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Genero36
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 06/05/18 12:00 pm ::: |
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I don't understand why Rodgers is on the court in the final minutes from New York. Even apart from anyone's opinion of Rodgers, she's been out and this is her first game back. I don't like relying on her in the final minutes.
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myrtle
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Posted: 06/05/18 12:01 pm ::: |
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Sugar probably not up to the extended minutes. Katie should have taken her out for a bit.
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Michelle89
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Posted: 06/05/18 12:03 pm ::: |
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Sugar with 2 missed 3's and a turnover in the final 2 minutes of the game. #DealBreaker
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toad455
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Posted: 06/05/18 12:04 pm ::: |
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Just don't understand why Zahui B isn't in the game. She defended Griner well and gave us offense inside and provided help for Tina. Bad coaching by Smith.
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zune69
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Posted: 06/05/18 12:05 pm ::: |
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No Nurse during crunch time...
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 06/05/18 12:10 pm ::: |
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Going to be a long season for Liberty fans
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Shades
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Posted: 06/05/18 12:12 pm ::: |
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The Liberty never brought Zahui back in after her tussle with Griner. I think that was a mistake. She was willing to go to battle with Griner and she could have gotten inside her head.
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LibFan25
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Posted: 06/05/18 12:15 pm ::: |
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Kia Vaughn sucks so bad, i mean i said it last year she's trash. and ofcourse Liberty management re-signed her SMH
and i knew it once Sugar "chucky" Rodgers gets back she will be in Late game situations chucking and turning the ball over as usual.
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myrtle
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Posted: 06/05/18 12:28 pm ::: |
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well, it was nice to see Zahui giving some good minutes at least. But it did seem like Katie made a few questionable decisions about who to have on the floor. Having both Hartley and Sugar on together definitely greatly increases turnover possibilities.
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toad455
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Posted: 06/05/18 1:17 pm ::: |
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Wonder if Laimbeer would gamble on taking Vaughn back. Or Vaughn and Rodgers? Maybe those two for Hamby and their 2nd round pick? This frees open a roster spot to sign someone like Chong or Samuelson.
PG: Hartley/Boyd
SG: Prince/Nurse
SF: Zellous/Coleman/Allen
PF: Charles/Hamby
C: Stokes/Zahui B
12th: Chong or Samuelson
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Richyyy
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Posted: 06/05/18 1:30 pm ::: |
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Laimbeer already has three centers struggling to earn minutes. Why would he want a fourth? |
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Posted: 06/05/18 1:30 pm ::: |
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This is the first time I can remember someone wanted to get Hamby in a trade. Wow Todd - you some kind of down on Sugar and Kia.
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toad455
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Posted: 06/05/18 1:41 pm ::: |
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Vaughn needs to go. She wasn't good last season and she's regressed this season.
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Posted: 06/05/18 2:51 pm ::: |
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Interesting numbers:
FT - NY 3-5, PHO 17-19
Reb NY wins 39-21
Aged Sancho got the most steal 3
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root_thing
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Posted: 06/05/18 3:04 pm ::: |
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So, this was my first camp day game. Can someone tell me if it's normal to have a lecture as your halftime entertainment? I feel like I went to a basketball game and it was interrupted by a TED Talk for children.
As far as the game goes, Bonner was the difference -- coming up big in key spots. She snuck behind the Liberty defense for a couple of easy lay-ups when it looked like New York had the momentum and was ready to stretch their lead. Then, down the stretch it was her two corner 3's that first put Phoenix ahead and then opened up a two-possession lead. In both cases NY had played good defense, but Bonner was able to make the deflating late 3's.
It looks like NY will once again need half a season to figure what the heck they want to do. I had a friend with me who was attending his first WNBA game. After watching the Liberty offense, he asked, "Don't they run any offense? It's all one-on-one." He was both impressed and puzzled by the smaller Liberty killing the bigger Mercury off the boards. I then pointed out that the bigger, slower Mercury were scoring more easy buckets off fastbreaks. It was counter-intuitive basketball. In the end, Phoenix had the discipline to keep attacking the basket, which either got them to the line or created open shots. NY hung in through hustle and effort, but crunch time is about execution. NY never looked like they knew what they wanted to do. I don't think Sugar Rodgers hoisting contested 3's is the answer. Anyway, that's what you have with the Liberty right now: hustle and effort in a tug-of-war with bad decision-making. Hopefully, by mid-season, they can reduce some of the cluelessness.
I agree that Vaughn was pretty useless today. She seemed lost, letting Griner slip away on defense while also being asleep on offense whenever passes came her way. I doubt Vaughn is going anywhere. So hopefully this is just a chemistry issue since she recently rejoined the team. Zahui B. makes me cringe too. She seems unable to throw an accurate pass. Just hold it over your head with two hands and heave it as hard as possible. I don't remember Amanda being so bad in 2016. Maybe just like last year, she doesn't get the offense. Zahui's 8 rebounds in 16 minutes look nice, but Amanda negated anything good she did with 5 turnovers and 4 fouls. Yes, I wish we kept Russell. She didn't put up numbers, but Mercedes seemed to be a deterrent on defense and she didn't do a lot of stupid stuff. I'm really beginning to appreciate the boring but mistake-free players.
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