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PostPosted: 06/11/18 1:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The 2017 numbers are from the entire 2017 season.



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PostPosted: 06/11/18 1:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
The 2017 numbers are from the entire 2017 season.


Found your post from around a similar point in the 2017 season.

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Rank. Team(# home games) - 2017 Average - (+/- 2016 Final Average)

1. Los Angeles Sparks(3) - 10,418 (+780)
2. Phoenix Mercury(4) - 8,917 (-1,434)
3. Minnesota Lynx(3) - 8,767 (-499)
4. New York Liberty(5) - 7,715 (-2,009)
5. San Antonio Stars(4) - 6,852 (+467)
6. Indiana Fever(3) - 6,596 (-1,979)
7. Connecticut Sun(2) - 6,389 (+552)
8. Seattle Storm(5) - 6,443 (-787)
9. Washington Mystics(4) - 5,819 (-1,110)
10. Chicago Sky(4) - 5,619 (-1,390)
11. Atlanta Dream(3) - 4,308 (-1,306)
12. Dallas Wings(3) - 3,443 (-1,855)
WNBA Average(43) - 6,814 (-840)



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RANK. TEAM(# games) - 2018 Average [+/- 2017 Average)
1. Los Angeles Sparks(4) - 10,536 (-814)
2. Minnesota Lynx(3) - 9,899 (-508)
3. Phoenix Mercury(5) - 8,954 (-959)
4. Las Vegas Aces(3) - 6,383 (-3)
5. Washington Mystics(5) - 6,279 (-1,492)
6. Connecticut Sun(4) - 6,206 (-523)
7. Seattle Storm(5) - 6,100 (-1,604)
8. Chicago Sky(4) - 5,813 (-770)
9. Dallas Wings(2) - 5,549 (+1,677)
10. Indiana Fever(5) - 5,394 (-2,144)
11. Atlanta Dream(3) - 3,790 (-662)
12. New York Liberty(5) - 2,833 (-7,056)
WNBA AVERAGE(49) - 6,390 (-1,326)


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PostPosted: 06/16/18 6:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Last night I went to my first Storm game in Seattle. I estimated the crowd at 2800. The announced attendance was 7000+. Unless they were counting legs their was some serious padding. Is this normal for the Storm?


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Before they tanked they seemed to have really good crowds.



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calbearman76 wrote:
Last night I went to my first Storm game in Seattle. I estimated the crowd at 2800. The announced attendance was 7000+. Unless they were counting legs their was some serious padding. Is this normal for the Storm?


The lower bowl at Key Arena holds 9,686. Judging by watching on League Pass, it looked about half that(4,500-5,000). But it does seem like the Storm pad their numbers, like most.



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PostPosted: 06/16/18 9:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The difference in arena atmosphere in Dallas (er Arlington) this year is clear. Good for the Wings. The players play hard and the crowd loves it.


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PostPosted: 06/17/18 2:35 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Unfortunately for Dallas.their Attendance in trending down:

Atlanta-5907
Seattle-5191
Phoenix-4549
Las Vegas-4029

Average-4944

But still better than last season.


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The difference in arena atmosphere in Dallas (er Arlington) this year is clear. Good for the Wings. The players play hard and the crowd loves it.


Dallas looks like they're on pace to average ~1,500 more than last season. Probably the biggest jump for any team this year(%). Also, majority of games in Dallas last year they would close off the upper "bowl". So far it's only be closed off once this year. But overall attendance is way down compared to last year.



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PRballer wrote:
The difference in arena atmosphere in Dallas (er Arlington) this year is clear. Good for the Wings. The players play hard and the crowd loves it.


Dallas looks like they're on pace to average ~1,500 more than last season. Probably the biggest jump for any team this year(%). Also, majority of games in Dallas last year they would close off the upper "bowl". So far it's only be closed off once this year. But overall attendance is way down compared to last year.


I like the Fact that marketing is reaching out to the city alot more this season using Skylar as the face or having her appear in different venues around the metroplex and also her commercial on TV along with her radio stop byes and promoting games on the radio ALOT more this year. The TV deal is also getting the team some publicity within the city thanks Fox Sports Net and Go Wings!



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toad455 wrote:
PRballer wrote:
The difference in arena atmosphere in Dallas (er Arlington) this year is clear. Good for the Wings. The players play hard and the crowd loves it.


Dallas looks like they're on pace to average ~1,500 more than last season. Probably the biggest jump for any team this year(%). Also, majority of games in Dallas last year they would close off the upper "bowl". So far it's only be closed off once this year. But overall attendance is way down compared to last year.


Understandable with Westchester situation mostly, the atrocious Fever and the disappearing Mystics fans. Things tend to pick up in July and August it seems.


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toad455 wrote:
PRballer wrote:
The difference in arena atmosphere in Dallas (er Arlington) this year is clear. Good for the Wings. The players play hard and the crowd loves it.


Dallas looks like they're on pace to average ~1,500 more than last season. Probably the biggest jump for any team this year(%). Also, majority of games in Dallas last year they would close off the upper "bowl". So far it's only be closed off once this year. But overall attendance is way down compared to last year.


Understandable with Westchester situation mostly, the atrocious Fever and the disappearing Mystics fans. Things tend to pick up in July and August it seems.


Yes. I'll have to do the numbers tomorrow to see what the average is without New York. But 3/4 of the league is averaging under 7k. Not good.



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PostPosted: 06/17/18 11:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Tonight was reportedly a 13k sellout in LA as well. Wonder why they're drawing so well after losing a championship game. Would be interesting to know if there've been any special initiatives that have led to it that other teams could copy (besides several years of being really good).
LA has a couple entertaining players like Gray.


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PostPosted: 06/17/18 9:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

needing attendance numbers from:

6/13/18: Washington @ Connecticut
6/17/18: Phoenix @ Las Vegas



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calbearman76 wrote:
Last night I went to my first Storm game in Seattle. I estimated the crowd at 2800. The announced attendance was 7000+. Unless they were counting legs their was some serious padding. Is this normal for the Storm?


The lower bowl at Key Arena holds 9,686. Judging by watching on League Pass, it looked about half that(4,500-5,000). But it does seem like the Storm pad their numbers, like most.



Being there I can tell you it was far less than half full. The center sections were 80% full but the corners and baseline were at best 20%. And there are for more seats in the latter category.


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*The attendance from the Mystics @ Sun game on 6/13 was never reported. Out of 14 games this week(excluding the missing Sun #), only 4 games saw crowds over 7k. Took the Liberty's numbers out to see the difference, and without those games the league would average 6,725 at this point.

RANK. TEAM(# games) - 2018 Average [+/- 2017 Average)
1. Los Angeles Sparks(5) - 10,272 (-1,078)
2. Minnesota Lynx(4) - 9,703 (-705)
3. Phoenix Mercury(6) - 9,545 (-368)
4. Connecticut Sun(4*) - 6,206 (-523)
5. Washington Mystics(6) - 6,114 (-1,657)
6. Seattle Storm(7) - 5,993 (-1,711)
7. Las Vegas Aces(4) - 5,896 (-491)
8. Chicago Sky(5) - 5,767 (-816)
9. Indiana Fever(7) - 5,520 (-2,018)
10. Dallas Wings(4) - 4,918 (+1,046)
11. Atlanta Dream(5) - 4,344 (-108)
12. New York Liberty(6) - 2,597 (-7,292)
WNBA AVERAGE(63) - 6,332 (-1,384)



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toad455 wrote:
*The attendance from the Mystics @ Sun game on 6/13 was never reported. Out of 14 games this week(excluding the missing Sun #), only 4 games saw crowds over 7k. Took the Liberty's numbers out to see the difference, and without those games the league would average 6,725 at this point.

RANK. TEAM(# games) - 2018 Average [+/- 2017 Average)
1. Los Angeles Sparks(5) - 10,272 (-1,078)
2. Minnesota Lynx(4) - 9,703 (-705)
3. Phoenix Mercury(6) - 9,545 (-368)
4. Connecticut Sun(4*) - 6,206 (-523)
5. Washington Mystics(6) - 6,114 (-1,657)
6. Seattle Storm(7) - 5,993 (-1,711)
7. Las Vegas Aces(4) - 5,896 (-491)
8. Chicago Sky(5) - 5,767 (-816)
9. Indiana Fever(7) - 5,520 (-2,018)
10. Dallas Wings(4) - 4,918 (+1,046)
11. Atlanta Dream(5) - 4,344 (-108)
12. New York Liberty(6) - 2,597 (-7,292)
WNBA AVERAGE(63) - 6,332 (-1,384)


Per some of the members of the Mercury Brigade who made the trip to Vegas for last night, the arena feels very intimate and made for a good game atmosphere, but Vegas still needs to build up its own fan base (as there were a good percentage of those in attendance who were Mercury fans).

Still, it was good to hear some in-person accounts of the arena and atmosphere.


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CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
*The attendance from the Mystics @ Sun game on 6/13 was never reported. Out of 14 games this week(excluding the missing Sun #), only 4 games saw crowds over 7k. Took the Liberty's numbers out to see the difference, and without those games the league would average 6,725 at this point.

RANK. TEAM(# games) - 2018 Average [+/- 2017 Average)
1. Los Angeles Sparks(5) - 10,272 (-1,078)
2. Minnesota Lynx(4) - 9,703 (-705)
3. Phoenix Mercury(6) - 9,545 (-368)
4. Connecticut Sun(4*) - 6,206 (-523)
5. Washington Mystics(6) - 6,114 (-1,657)
6. Seattle Storm(7) - 5,993 (-1,711)
7. Las Vegas Aces(4) - 5,896 (-491)
8. Chicago Sky(5) - 5,767 (-816)
9. Indiana Fever(7) - 5,520 (-2,018)
10. Dallas Wings(4) - 4,918 (+1,046)
11. Atlanta Dream(5) - 4,344 (-108)
12. New York Liberty(6) - 2,597 (-7,292)
WNBA AVERAGE(63) - 6,332 (-1,384)


Per some of the members of the Mercury Brigade who made the trip to Vegas for last night, the arena feels very intimate and made for a good game atmosphere, but Vegas still needs to build up its own fan base (as there were a good percentage of those in attendance who were Mercury fans).

Still, it was good to hear some in-person accounts of the arena and atmosphere.


Including the game announcers on League Pass.



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PostPosted: 06/18/18 6:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
Per some of the members of the Mercury Brigade who made the trip to Vegas for last night, the arena feels very intimate and made for a good game atmosphere, but Vegas still needs to build up its own fan base (as there were a good percentage of those in attendance who were Mercury fans).

Still, it was good to hear some in-person accounts of the arena and atmosphere.


Including the game announcers on League Pass.


...but not the announcers for the NBA TV broadcast.


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Still needing the attendance for the June 13 Mystics @ Sun game. odd it hasn't been reported anywhere.



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Still needing the attendance for the June 13 Mystics @ Sun game. odd it hasn't been reported anywhere.


It was really nice looking crowd on espn im surprised still no reports.



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13 games this week with 6 games over 7k. Numbers always start of low, but this is looking grim with 3/4 of the league averaging below 6,500.

RANK. TEAM(# games) - 2018 Average [+/- 2017 Average)
1. Los Angeles Sparks(4) - 10,536 (-814)
2. Minnesota Lynx(3) - 9,899 (-508)
3. Phoenix Mercury(5) - 8,954 (-959)
4. Las Vegas Aces(3) - 6,383 (-3)
5. Washington Mystics(5) - 6,279 (-1,492)
6. Connecticut Sun(4) - 6,206 (-523)
7. Seattle Storm(5) - 6,100 (-1,604)
8. Chicago Sky(4) - 5,813 (-770)
9. Dallas Wings(2) - 5,549 (+1,677)
10. Indiana Fever(5) - 5,394 (-2,144)
11. Atlanta Dream(3) - 3,790 (-662)
12. New York Liberty(5) - 2,833 (-7,056)
WNBA AVERAGE(49) - 6,390 (-1,326)


To me the Storm numbers this year have been looking more inflated than in years past relative to what I see in the arena.


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toad455 wrote:
Still needing the attendance for the June 13 Mystics @ Sun game. odd it hasn't been reported anywhere.


It was really nice looking crowd on espn im surprised still no reports.


Just went through my usual sources(.com, ESPN, Yahoo!) and it's still listed as N/A.



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6/16/2018 the attendance for the Mercury was 12,497 and for the 6/22/2018 game it was 11,349. These are not inflated numbers as I was in attendance and witnessed the huge crowds.



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No number reported for the Aces' game last night. Report will be delayed until next Tuesday as I'm out of town for the week.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Still needing the attendance for the June 13 Mystics @ Sun game. odd it hasn't been reported anywhere.


It was really nice looking crowd on espn im surprised still no reports.


Just went through my usual sources(.com, ESPN, Yahoo!) and it's still listed as N/A.


Still no reported attendance for the June 13 game @ Connecticut. Might have to insert the # as zero(0).



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Why did the Sun abruptly quit posting Game Notes after June 5? The last one had a pdf the prior-game boxscore (w/ attendance) in it.

http://sun.wnba.com/notes/

EDIT: Also just noticing each of the Game Notes from May 26 through June 5 (five of them in all) posted the same grainy PDF boxscore from the May 20 home game against Las Vegas. Somebody quit or got canned, I suppose?

Has anyone asked Ned Griffen, who covers the Sun for The Day (@MetalNED) what's going on internally with attendance tracking?




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toad455 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Still needing the attendance for the June 13 Mystics @ Sun game. odd it hasn't been reported anywhere.


It was really nice looking crowd on espn im surprised still no reports.


Just went through my usual sources(.com, ESPN, Yahoo!) and it's still listed as N/A.


Still no reported attendance for the June 13 game @ Connecticut. Might have to insert the # as zero(0).


The attendance for the June 13th game @ Connecticut was 5650.

https://statsdmz.nba.com/pdfs/20180613/20180613_WASCON.pdf



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Sun attendance might be better if they had any home games. From June 1 to July 7 the sun will have had 13 road games and 3 home games. You would think if they own the arena they could get a better schedule.



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pilight wrote:
toad455 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Still needing the attendance for the June 13 Mystics @ Sun game. odd it hasn't been reported anywhere.


It was really nice looking crowd on espn im surprised still no reports.


Just went through my usual sources(.com, ESPN, Yahoo!) and it's still listed as N/A.


Still no reported attendance for the June 13 game @ Connecticut. Might have to insert the # as zero(0).


The attendance for the June 13th game @ Connecticut was 5650.

https://statsdmz.nba.com/pdfs/20180613/20180613_WASCON.pdf


Thanks pilight. Can't believe .com still doesn't have it listed.



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pilight wrote:
toad455 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Still needing the attendance for the June 13 Mystics @ Sun game. odd it hasn't been reported anywhere.


It was really nice looking crowd on espn im surprised still no reports.


Just went through my usual sources(.com, ESPN, Yahoo!) and it's still listed as N/A.


Still no reported attendance for the June 13 game @ Connecticut. Might have to insert the # as zero(0).


The attendance for the June 13th game @ Connecticut was 5650.

https://statsdmz.nba.com/pdfs/20180613/20180613_WASCON.pdf


pilight, any chance you have the attendance from the June 24 game Minnesota @ Las Vegas?



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toad455 wrote:
pilight wrote:
toad455 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Still needing the attendance for the June 13 Mystics @ Sun game. odd it hasn't been reported anywhere.


It was really nice looking crowd on espn im surprised still no reports.


Just went through my usual sources(.com, ESPN, Yahoo!) and it's still listed as N/A.


Still no reported attendance for the June 13 game @ Connecticut. Might have to insert the # as zero(0).


The attendance for the June 13th game @ Connecticut was 5650.

https://statsdmz.nba.com/pdfs/20180613/20180613_WASCON.pdf


pilight, any chance you have the attendance from the June 24 game Minnesota @ Las Vegas?


I don't. The official boxscore says "Not yet counted".



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pilight wrote:
toad455 wrote:
pilight wrote:
toad455 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Still needing the attendance for the June 13 Mystics @ Sun game. odd it hasn't been reported anywhere.


It was really nice looking crowd on espn im surprised still no reports.


Just went through my usual sources(.com, ESPN, Yahoo!) and it's still listed as N/A.


Still no reported attendance for the June 13 game @ Connecticut. Might have to insert the # as zero(0).


The attendance for the June 13th game @ Connecticut was 5650.

https://statsdmz.nba.com/pdfs/20180613/20180613_WASCON.pdf


pilight, any chance you have the attendance from the June 24 game Minnesota @ Las Vegas?


I don't. The official boxscore says "Not yet counted".


Thanks. just trying to get the numbers finally posted.



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Up to & including games from July 1. The Minnesota @ Las Vegas game on June 24 has been added and the overall average updated. League hitting rock bottom with a lot of 4k & 5k games the past week.

RANK. TEAM(# games) - 2018 Average [+/- 2017 Average)
1. Los Angeles Sparks(9) - 10,158 (-1,192)
2. Phoenix Mercury(7) - 9,802 (-111)
3. Minnesota Lynx(7) - 9,239 (-1,168)
4. Seattle Storm(11) - 6,749 (-955)
5. Connecticut Sun(6) - 5,931 (-797)
6. Chicago Sky(9) - 5,923 (-660)
7. Indiana Fever(10) - 5,662 (-1,876)
8. Washington Mystics(10) - 5,572 (-2,199)
9. Las Vegas Aces(8) - 5,531 (-753)
10. Dallas Wings(7) - 4,840 (+968)
11. Atlanta Dream(6) - 4,295 (-157)
12. New York Liberty(9) - 2,321 (-7,568)
WNBA AVERAGE(100) - 6,250 (-1,466)



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Sucks everyone but my team has declined so far . Hopefully with more Camp days to go we see an increase. Just glad posters cant rag on my teams attendance as the hurtful ones now its obvious who's hurting the league the most right now .



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Sucks everyone but my team has declined so far . Hopefully with more Camp days to go we see an increase. Just glad posters cant rag on my teams attendance as the hurtful ones now its obvious who's hurting the league the most right now .


I'm still hoping the Wings can finish with an average over 5k. I'd expect Phoenix and hopefully Atlanta to finish better than '18. Maybe Seattle of they keep getting 8k crowds. Sparks and Lynx should also start seeing frequent 10k crowds now.



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Big drops by Lynx and Sparks. I guess fans got tired of the teams winning all the time. Storm, Sun and Mystics seem to prove winning doesn't help much. In fact, the only thing that seems to help attendance is having Cambage show up. She is clearly the WNBA MVP when it comes to putting fans in seats. Too bad there is only one of her to go around.



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19% decline midway through the season is a bad sign.

Per the Las Vegas Review Journal the announced attendance for the Lynx-Aces game was 4816. see link:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/basketball/aces-wnba/las-vegas-aces-schooled-by-defending-wnba-champion-lynx/


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PostPosted: 07/04/18 10:42 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The reported attendance at the Storm@Liberty game was only 1,749! Shocked


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PostPosted: 07/04/18 11:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The reported attendance at the Storm@Liberty game was only 1,749! Shocked


It's really sad they can't get 2k a night there at least. but judging by reports it's 1.) Not easy to get to, 2.) An amateur type "arena" & 3.) Visit teams hate playing there.



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calbearman76 wrote:
19% decline midway through the season is a bad sign.

Per the Las Vegas Review Journal the announced attendance for the Lynx-Aces game was 4816. see link:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/basketball/aces-wnba/las-vegas-aces-schooled-by-defending-wnba-champion-lynx/


Thanks, I'll update the numbers tomorrow.



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The reported attendance at the Storm@Liberty game was only 1,749! Shocked


It's really sad they can't get 2k a night there at least. but judging by reports it's 1.) Not easy to get to, 2.) An amateur type "arena" & 3.) Visit teams hate playing there.


No. 3 doesn't seem like a bad thing for the Liberty. Visiting teams complain about the difficulties of getting the Sun games as well. Probably for visiting players playing games as MSG was quite a thrill by itself.



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it may be tough to get to Mohegan Sun, but the arena differences between that and WCC are very different. Mohegan Sun arena is the exact type of arena WNBA teams wish to play in.



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PostPosted: 07/04/18 2:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Perhaps some of our overseas members will chime in, but from what little I've seen WCC looks a bit like some of the arenas in Europe where our players play.



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PostPosted: 07/04/18 3:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

One obvious change is the Mystics' attendance, which probably now reflects actual attendance instead of the fantasy numbers most teams use. The Mystics do have to justify downsizing, and by reporting semi-real attendance this year, they make it easier to move.

At the same time, the league can hand-wave away the decline in attendance this year by simply pointing at New York and ignoring all the other negatives, so maybe L.A. and Minnesota are trying to get away from padded numbers too.

Or, of course, franchises could be doing just what they did before and there really are a lot fewer people going to games ...



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PostPosted: 07/05/18 7:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The Vegas # from June 24 has been added and the averages updated.



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calbearman76 wrote:
19% decline midway through the season is a bad sign.


The 2017 numbers are from the entire 2017 season.

Attendance went up in the second half last year, and I expect this year to be the same.


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One thing that seems quite concerning is that even when teams move to smaller arenas attendance numbers end up being about half (if not less) than the arena capacity (of seats made available.) Even WCC is only coming in with about 1500 out of 2500. And this seems to have happened with other teams (including the Dream for that matter.) Going to smaller arenas doesn't seem to make for a more packed house - just a smaller half empty one. It will be interesting to see what happens when the Mystics move to the smaller arena.



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Yes, attendance always starts to increase after July 4. School's are out, plus camp days become frequent for all teams. Hoping the 6,250 average is the lowest the league will get for the remainder of the season.



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PostPosted: 07/05/18 7:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Up to & including games from July 1. The Minnesota @ Las Vegas game on June 24 has been added and the overall average updated. League hitting rock bottom with a lot of 4k & 5k games the past week.

RANK. TEAM(# games) - 2018 Average [+/- 2017 Average)
1. Los Angeles Sparks(9) - 10,158 (-1,192)
2. Phoenix Mercury(7) - 9,802 (-111)
3. Minnesota Lynx(7) - 9,239 (-1,168)
4. Seattle Storm(11) - 6,749 (-955)
5. Connecticut Sun(6) - 5,931 (-797)
6. Chicago Sky(9) - 5,923 (-660)
7. Indiana Fever(10) - 5,662 (-1,876)
8. Washington Mystics(10) - 5,572 (-2,199)
9. Las Vegas Aces(Cool - 5,531 (-753)
10. Dallas Wings(7) - 4,840 (+968)
11. Atlanta Dream(6) - 4,295 (-157)
12. New York Liberty(9) - 2,321 (-7,568)
WNBA AVERAGE(100) - 6,250 (-1,466)


Here are the number from your 2017 thread for games to June 28. Bold are increased from last year at this time (excludes a few with really small changes). Most of the rest are pretty close. The biggest change is the the league avg is down by 737, only about half as much as the comparison to year end shows (-1466 above). Haven't done the math, but NY's change has to be responsible for a lot of that. So things aren't quite as bad as they look.

Rank. Team(# home games) - 2017 Average - (+/- 2016 Final Average)

1. Los Angeles Sparks(6) - 9,584 (-54)
2. Phoenix Mercury(6) - 9,357 (-995)
3. Minnesota Lynx(6) - 9,193 (-73)
4. New York Liberty(Cool - 9,025 (-700)
5. San Antonio Stars(6) - 6,781 (+396)
6. Seattle Storm(Cool - 6,756 (-474)
7. Indiana Fever(7) - 6,675 (-1,900)
8. Washington Mystics(Cool - 6,326 (-603)
9. Chicago Sky(7) - 6,081 (-928)
10. Connecticut Sun(5) - 5,963 (+126)
11. Atlanta Dream(4) - 4,291 (-1,324)
12. Dallas Wings(Cool - 3,674 (-1,624)
WNBA Average(79) - 6,987 (-667)



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PostPosted: 07/06/18 2:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
The Vegas # from June 24 has been added and the averages updated.


What was the attendance for that game?


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