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PostPosted: 05/23/18 12:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Tokashiki regressed pretty badly, so I could see a swap for someone like McGee-Stafford to see if either can do better on a new team before the league gives up on them in general. So many of IMS's issues on the court are down to her head, and coaches often back themselves to be able to fix things like that.

But no way in hell Seattle give up on Canada already for someone like Clarendon.


It all depends on how well Canada develop. You see what happened with Alexis Peterson. If Canada proves that she is a backup at best, then why not trade her to a team for a proven starting PG


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PostPosted: 05/23/18 12:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

basketballologist wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Tokashiki regressed pretty badly, so I could see a swap for someone like McGee-Stafford to see if either can do better on a new team before the league gives up on them in general. So many of IMS's issues on the court are down to her head, and coaches often back themselves to be able to fix things like that.

But no way in hell Seattle give up on Canada already for someone like Clarendon.


It all depends on how well Canada develop. You see what happened with Alexis Peterson. If Canada proves that she is a backup at best, then why not trade her to a team for a proven starting PG


Players and especially PG's need time to develop and she is going to get that time with Bird around to learn from and enough playing time. You cant compare Peterson with Canada whole different level



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PostPosted: 05/23/18 1:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michelle89 wrote:
basketballologist wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Tokashiki regressed pretty badly, so I could see a swap for someone like McGee-Stafford to see if either can do better on a new team before the league gives up on them in general. So many of IMS's issues on the court are down to her head, and coaches often back themselves to be able to fix things like that.

But no way in hell Seattle give up on Canada already for someone like Clarendon.


It all depends on how well Canada develop. You see what happened with Alexis Peterson. If Canada proves that she is a backup at best, then why not trade her to a team for a proven starting PG


Players and especially PG's need time to develop and she is going to get that time with Bird around to learn from and enough playing time. You cant compare Peterson with Canada whole different level


The reason for them drafting Peterson was to be Bird's successor. That didn't work out. That's why I said we need to see what Canada bring to the table


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The reason for them drafting Peterson was to be Bird's successor. That didn't work out. That's why I said we need to see what Canada bring to the table


Peterson was rarely used, maybe unfairly so under Boucek.
Canada, on the other hand, hasn't had a bad game, preseason or regular season. That's why we had the premature discussion in the SEA thread about Bird possibly taking a back seat. Anyway, Canada looks to be what SEA has been waiting for a long time, so it would take something way more enticing than what you presented to get a deal done. I'm not sure what it would take would be worth it to ATL.



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The reason for them drafting Peterson was to be Bird's successor. That didn't work out. That's why I said we need to see what Canada bring to the table


Peterson was rarely used, maybe unfairly so under Boucek.
Canada, on the other hand, hasn't had a bad game, preseason or regular season. That's why we had the premature discussion in the SEA thread about Bird possibly taking a back seat. Anyway, Canada looks to be what SEA has been waiting for a long time, so it would take something way more enticing than what you presented to get a deal done. I'm not sure what it would take would be worth it to ATL.


I agree. I was just saying, just in case it didnt work out with Canada, they could try to go with the Clarendon route.


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Michelle89 wrote:
basketballologist wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Tokashiki regressed pretty badly, so I could see a swap for someone like McGee-Stafford to see if either can do better on a new team before the league gives up on them in general. So many of IMS's issues on the court are down to her head, and coaches often back themselves to be able to fix things like that.

But no way in hell Seattle give up on Canada already for someone like Clarendon.


It all depends on how well Canada develop. You see what happened with Alexis Peterson. If Canada proves that she is a backup at best, then why not trade her to a team for a proven starting PG


Players and especially PG's need time to develop and she is going to get that time with Bird around to learn from and enough playing time. You cant compare Peterson with Canada whole different level


The reason for them drafting Peterson was to be Bird's successor. That didn't work out. That's why I said we need to see what Canada bring to the table

They took Peterson at #15 as a flier, in the hope that she might work out. Not as a definitive successor or heir apparent - you're not getting that in the second round. They took Canada at #5, over the likes of Stevens, Vivians and Vadeeva. Whole different ballgame, with completely different expectations.



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PostPosted: 05/23/18 2:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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F Ramu Tokashiki


Yes to the rights of Tokashiki for Imani


What do you see in Imani if you dont mind me asking ? Besides her being tall , shes contributed absolutely nothing to this league besides 1 good game 2 years ago. Id rather have Tok , but im not a storm fan so interested to hear your opinion ?


Tok hasn't even shown up this year. But then, you always fall for the girls who play hard to get.



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PostPosted: 05/24/18 12:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Anyone want Prince from New York?


Thornton for Prince ? Laughing


I'm up for this trade, if you weren't joking.

I like Kayla's grit, and want to free up minutes for Nurse and Hartley.


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WNBA 09 wrote:
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Anyone want Prince from New York?


Thornton for Prince ? Laughing


I'm up for this trade, if you weren't joking.

I like Kayla's grit, and want to free up minutes for Nurse and Hartley.


That offer must have been made before tonight’s game when he realized she was good. The Wings will be leaning heavily on Thornton until Glory is 100%, and who knows when that’ll be. Hamstrings can be tricky like that.

Go see if Laimbeer will take Prince for Coffey.



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Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
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toad455 wrote:
Anyone want Prince from New York?


Thornton for Prince ? Laughing


I'm up for this trade, if you weren't joking.

I like Kayla's grit, and want to free up minutes for Nurse and Hartley.


That offer must have been made before tonight’s game when he realized she was good. The Wings will be leaning heavily on Thornton until Glory is 100%, and who knows when that’ll be. Hamstrings can be tricky like that.

Go see if Laimbeer will take Prince for Coffey.


Not as exciting but I would consider it.

I still want Jefferson, if she can prove she is healthy by mid season and NY is solidly out of the lottery

NY's 1st round pick for Jefferson

(I'm trying to realistic and up the ante if we can get Jefferson for Rodgers, Prince or Boyd and a throw in of our 2nd round pick and keep our first round pick I'm all for it.)

I know it is a big risk but 3rd/4th year Jefferson will be further along than anyone we we would get in 19, and I think a future line up of

Jefferson, Hartley, Nurse, Charles and Stokes

with a Bench of Boyd, Rodgers, Zellous, Zahui B

and a couple of free agents could get NY closer to contending while the Charles window is still open.

(Ok I'm not 100% with this idea because I would love Ogunbowale at say the #6 pick, but if Arike, Brown, McCowan, KLS and Durr are off the board before we pick I would take Jefferson over say Cunningham or who else would be available after those 5.)


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Why have NY fans suddenly turned on Prince? It was always Sugar's name coming up under the "she's gotta go" category. Out of sight, out of favor?



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PostPosted: 05/24/18 8:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Why have NY fans suddenly turned on Prince? It was always Sugar's name coming up under the "she's gotta go" category. Out of sight, out of favor?

I've been wondering this as well... If you look at her numbers, they are solidly better than Sugar's. Prince is a better shooter, better at creating her own shot, better at creating shots for others, a better ball handler, etc... In Sugar's six years in the league, her second best shooting percentage for a season (35.3%) is worse than Prince's worst shooting percentage (37.5% in 2011).

In my opinion, Prince has arguably been our second best player over the past few seasons when healthy. I'm not sure why some people are seemingly so desperate to get rid of her.


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For that matter, I've never been sure why Rodgers was always mentioned as a "must go" in the past. Or Zealous before her. But, I guess NY fans think their roster is flawed and are looking for the quickest way to fix that problem.



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For that matter, I've never been sure why Rodgers was always mentioned as a "must go" in the past. Or Zealous before her. But, I guess NY fans think their roster is flawed and are looking for the quickest way to fix that problem.


Especially now with the addition of Nurse who seems to be doing well (one game sample size), the Liberty seem to be too deep at SG, and there always seems to be a level of disdain over the SF position.

Often times the quick fix ends up being worse than staying the course. But the people that start these kinds of threads or love to come up with half a dozen trade ideas a day rarely see it that way. Wink



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PostPosted: 05/24/18 10:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There are at least a couple of us Liberty fans who want to hang on to Prince. On a team that doesn't have much in the way of players who can create their own shot, Prince is the best we have. She was ineffective when she came back from injury at the end of 2016, and Rodgers was coming off a good year. So, at the beginning of last season, NY fans wanted to keep Rodgers and dump Prince. However, in 2017 Piph bounced back in the second half of the year while Suger dropped off badly. Now, Prince is the better player again.

It does come down to NY having too many players at SG. That's the best position for Prince, Rodgers, Zellous, Nurse, and Hartley. If you keep all of these players on the roster, then they either have to be forced into their second best position or they sit on the bench losing value. It's an inefficient way of deploying your talent. Meanwhile, NY can use a permanent solution at center, small forward, and point guard. Two years ago, we thought we had young players who could eventually step into those positions, but then last season they all stumbled at the same time. Consequently, you will see all kinds of trade proposals from Liberty fans because people are anxious to relieve the crowding at SG and hopefully turn those pieces into useful assets at other positions.



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PostPosted: 05/24/18 11:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Los Angeles receive:
C Imani McGee-Stafford

Atlanta receive:
G Sydney Wiese


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basketballologist wrote:
Los Angeles receive:
C Imani McGee-Stafford

Atlanta receive:
G Sydney Wiese


Wisdom says ATL should at least wait until they know Wiese makes the final cut in LAS before offering something for a player they could get for free... if they even want her. ATL has already passed on a couple decent cuts so maybe they’re not looking for any more roster changes.



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PostPosted: 05/24/18 1:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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There are at least a couple of us Liberty fans who want to hang on to Prince. On a team that doesn't have much in the way of players who can create their own shot, Prince is the best we have. She was ineffective when she came back from injury at the end of 2016, and Rodgers was coming off a good year. So, at the beginning of last season, NY fans wanted to keep Rodgers and dump Prince. However, in 2017 Piph bounced back in the second half of the year while Suger dropped off badly. Now, Prince is the better player again.

It does come down to NY having too many players at SG. That's the best position for Prince, Rodgers, Zellous, Nurse, and Hartley. If you keep all of these players on the roster, then they either have to be forced into their second best position or they sit on the bench losing value. It's an inefficient way of deploying your talent. Meanwhile, NY can use a permanent solution at center, small forward, and point guard. Two years ago, we thought we had young players who could eventually step into those positions, but then last season they all stumbled at the same time. Consequently, you will see all kinds of trade proposals from Liberty fans because people are anxious to relieve the crowding at SG and hopefully turn those pieces into useful assets at other positions.


The second paragraph pretty much sums it up for me.

Combined with a desire to shake things up a little bit. NY has stagnated at good, not really a contender but able to make the playoffs, but not able to make deep runs in the playoffs.

Add in the long term feeling that a Prince/Rodgers back-court which was the idea a couple seasons ago did not work, and that Prince has missed a good deal of time with Russian National team commitments and injuries the last few seasons. And that Hartley and Nurse seem to have more potential and upside for the future.


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Shades wrote:
basketballologist wrote:
Los Angeles receive:
C Imani McGee-Stafford

Atlanta receive:
G Sydney Wiese


Wisdom says ATL should at least wait until they know Wiese makes the final cut in LAS before offering something for a player they could get for free... if they even want her. ATL has already passed on a couple decent cuts so maybe they’re not looking for any more roster changes.



Are you really giving up anything by getting rid of McGee-Stafford? But why would LA want her?


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calbearman76 wrote:
Shades wrote:
basketballologist wrote:
Los Angeles receive:
C Imani McGee-Stafford

Atlanta receive:
G Sydney Wiese


Wisdom says ATL should at least wait until they know Wiese makes the final cut in LAS before offering something for a player they could get for free... if they even want her. ATL has already passed on a couple decent cuts so maybe they’re not looking for any more roster changes.



Are you really giving up anything by getting rid of McGee-Stafford? But why would LA want her?


We could probably get Wiese (or someone just as good) when final cuts are made. Why would we get rid of our backup 5 and why would LA want her with Lavender available soon. It seems some think we should get rid or her, apparently to benefit some other team?



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Am I the only one that doesn't think McGee-Stafford is absolute trash? I mean, obviously she struggles with consistency and she's not a Fowles/Charles type of talent, but IMO this isn't some player that's just tall and just flat out useless. She has at least a decent skillset that can be utilized.

Unfortunately for her, it seems like its going to take the right coach, with the right system, and the rights players...


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Am I the only one that doesn't think McGee-Stafford is absolute trash? I mean, obviously she struggles with consistency and she's not a Fowles/Charles type of talent, but IMO this isn't some player that's just tall and just flat out useless. She has at least a decent skillset that can be utilized.

Unfortunately for her, it seems like its going to take the right coach, with the right system, and the rights players...


Somewhere overseas



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Am I the only one that doesn't think McGee-Stafford is absolute trash? I mean, obviously she struggles with consistency and she's not a Fowles/Charles type of talent, but IMO this isn't some player that's just tall and just flat out useless. She has at least a decent skillset that can be utilized.



To me, very little difference between her and Hamlin.. So if you think Hamlin is useless, then I would say McGee-Stafford is useless as well. They are both tall, neither can move particularly well, both are slow up the floor, both can at least sometimes make layups, both can get some rebounds and some blocks, neither has great hands or range on their shot, neither are great at defending the pick and roll. Actually you can throw Russel into that category as well. I think they all have some use, but none will spend a lot of time on the floor.



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Why have NY fans suddenly turned on Prince? It was always Sugar's name coming up under the "she's gotta go" category. Out of sight, out of favor?


Rodgers is healthy. Prince not so much over the past three years.



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I still like IMS my theory on her is she could develop into a strong defensive center who could get you 8 to 10 points and rebounds a night with a couple to a few blocks thrown in as a starter. The prproblem imo is she needs to get 20 to 25 minutes a night to become that player. She needs to play through her mistakes to develop and only Chicago her rookie year with Pokey was willing to give her that kind of time, and live with the mistakes


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J-Spoon wrote:
I still like IMS my theory on her is she could develop into a strong defensive center who could get you 8 to 10 points and rebounds a night with a couple to a few blocks thrown in as a starter. The prproblem imo is she needs to get 20 to 25 minutes a night to become that player. She needs to play through her mistakes to develop and only Chicago her rookie year with Pokey was willing to give her that kind of time, and live with the mistakes


She may never get it, but there are players our there that did progress over time - T. Hawkins comes to mind. She seemed ineffective her first few years but has gotten better, little by little. For IMS - one problem is she has now had 3 coaches since the start of last season, along with being traded, playing a short while in China and a divorce so it has been a tumultuous time for her. I'm hoping she can show progress. Even in college she didn't show much until her senior year. I would trade her if a good deal came along, but right now the Dream don't need new players so much as to get the current players on board with the new coach, system and comfortable with each other.



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Going back to her history in high school and college, I don't think IMS likes basketball that much. Her main problem might just be a lack of desire.


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IMS is a rare combination of height and athleticism and occasionally she shows flashes of a solid player.

Unfortunately, her production at every level not only hasn't matched her potential, it hasn't even been much above average, and at the WNBA level, she's overmatched.

Of course it's possible the light will go on, just as it is with Shoni Schimmel and many others we could mention, but history strongly suggests that the IMS we see is the IMS we'll get.



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IMS is a rare combination of height and athleticism and occasionally she shows flashes of a solid player.

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What is the indication of athleticism? I haven't seen it, but keep hearing people refer to it. As far as I can tell, it's a rumor based on an 'athletic' family. Can she jump? maybe - haven't seen it. Can she move fast - no. Can she make moves around the basket - I don't think so. So where is this 'athleticism'?



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IMS is a rare combination of height and athleticism and occasionally she shows flashes of a solid player.

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What is the indication of athleticism? I haven't seen it, but keep hearing people refer to it. As far as I can tell, it's a rumor based on an 'athletic' family. Can she jump? maybe - haven't seen it. Can she move fast - no. Can she make moves around the basket - I don't think so. So where is this 'athleticism'?


Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say she's an athlete like Gabby Williams or Nneka, but she's moves better than Hamblin, IMO. Laughing


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Still - no one has come up with readily available back up center who is clearly better, or a trade for a player the Dream need more than IMS. If she is no better than Russell, Morello, Hamblin or Hamson - it still doesn't mean we should go for one of them. She would have to be worse than all of them, and I don't think she it.



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Hamblin had a good preseason game when Cambage got into frequent foul trouble. I was a little surprised she was cut in favor of Lewis.

With Russell, I think there’s a higher ceiling, but will she be given the time to reach that ceiling?

This is IMS’s third year and she hasn’t shown any marked improvement, but I still don’t think she should be just given away. Some still see value and potential in her. And you did pay a 2018 lottery pick for her. Just think, you could have had Stevens... or DeShields if that’s your flavor.



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I would rather have had Stevens instead of IMS, and rather we had taken any number of players now instead of IMS, but now that have her, I don't want to give her away for an autographsed Candace Parker poster, or the like. For that matter, had we held onto our previous lottery pick we could perhaps have had J. Jones instead of Williams. Then again, we could have had Shakahtor instead of Sykes, and if other GM's were perfect we might never have gotten Hayes, Bentley, Holmes, or Clarendon. We did get Dantas and now Billings for 17 games from Erika, so sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

It probably will go down as the worst trade in Dream history, though Ajavon for Bentley, J. Thomas for Hyrnko, and Camile Little for Lehning (I think) were all pretty bad.



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Angel McCoughtry need to request a trade. She will be in Atlanta and never win a championship...

Los Angeles receive
F Angel McCoughtry

Atlanta receive
F Essence Carson
G Riquna Williams


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Angel McCoughtry need to request a trade. She will be in Atlanta and never win a championship...

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F Angel McCoughtry

Atlanta receive
F Essence Carson
G Riquna Williams


I think If Angel Were to request a Trade it most likely would be to NY . Just a Hunch



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Angel McCoughtry need to request a trade. She will be in Atlanta and never win a championship...

Los Angeles receive
F Angel McCoughtry

Atlanta receive
F Essence Carson
G Riquna Williams


Let's see -- one player who's bounced around the league and despite great skills, can't start, and another who is a placeholder in a stacked lineup

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A player who can singlehandedly carry a team for long stretches.



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Angel McCoughtry need to request a trade. She will be in Atlanta and never win a championship...

Los Angeles receive
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Atlanta receive
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G Riquna Williams



Make it Carson, the rights to Vadeeva instead of Riquna Williams PLUS the first round pick in 2019 and they’ll think about it.



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I think the Dream or any team could get R. Williams for cap space but we really don't need her unless someone gets injured. I'm also not ever sure we have the cap space.



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Angel McCoughtry need to request a trade. She will be in Atlanta and never win a championship...

Los Angeles receive
F Angel McCoughtry

Atlanta receive
F Essence Carson
G Riquna Williams


LOL.

McCoughtry is worth more than that. Laughing


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Go ahead and laugh at my girl, Riquna. But when she starts raining treys this season, all of you will mourn for not having her. Mark my words!



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PostPosted: 05/26/18 1:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:


Let's see -- one player who's bounced around the league and despite great skills, can't start, and another who is a placeholder in a stacked lineup



We know you have it in for Williams, but "bounced around the league" is a complete misrepresentation of her career. She has played on two teams after being traded in the off-season once. If she has "bounced around the league" so have the likes of Chelsea Gray, Elena DelleDonne, Jasmine Thomas, Crystal Langhorne, Alana Beard, etc., ect., etc.


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jap wrote:
Go ahead and laugh ay my girl, Riquna. But when she starts raining treys this season, all of you will mourn for not having her. Mark my words!


I’m glad the Sparks held onto her. I’m hoping she becomes one of the cracks in that venerable Sparks fortress. There’s the Cappie crack, the Riquna lack-of-focus crack, the Vadeeva she’s-the-best-player-of-her-generation-so-there’s-really-no-need-for-her-to-show-up-her-aura-alone-will-help-win-us-games crack, the Sims you-know-I’m-worth-more-than-$65K crack, and finally the Candace I’m-all-caught-up-in-my-feels crack. Crumble*crumble*crumble



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mavcarter wrote:
basketballologist wrote:
Angel McCoughtry need to request a trade. She will be in Atlanta and never win a championship...

Los Angeles receive
F Angel McCoughtry

Atlanta receive
F Essence Carson
G Riquna Williams


LOL.

McCoughtry is worth more than that. :lol:



How about Angel for Nneka straight up. That is a much more fair trade, and probably one that neither team would like.


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Going back to her history in high school and college, I don't think IMS likes basketball that much. Her main problem might just be a lack of desire.



I agree. She has great potential and every so often she shows it, but she doesn't seem to like the grind. If she focused on the round ball I believe she would be a starting center. She is better than Russell, but that is the closest comparison.


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To: Any team looking for a big, especially someone who can shoot outside

Cayla George, no trade required


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calbearman76 wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
basketballologist wrote:
Angel McCoughtry need to request a trade. She will be in Atlanta and never win a championship...

Los Angeles receive
F Angel McCoughtry

Atlanta receive
F Essence Carson
G Riquna Williams


LOL.

McCoughtry is worth more than that. Laughing



How about Angel for Nneka straight up. That is a much more fair trade, and probably one that neither team would like.


Nneka is one of Brian's Untouchables.



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jap wrote:
calbearman76 wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
basketballologist wrote:
Angel McCoughtry need to request a trade. She will be in Atlanta and never win a championship...

Los Angeles receive
F Angel McCoughtry

Atlanta receive
F Essence Carson
G Riquna Williams


LOL.

McCoughtry is worth more than that. Laughing



How about Angel for Nneka straight up. That is a much more fair trade, and probably one that neither team would like.


Nneka is one of Brian's Untouchables.


I'm not convinced she isn't the best and most important player in the league.


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I just dont see why you want to trade Nneka for Angel. Already enough attitude on that team



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I'm not entirely sure what they should be looking to get back, but part of me feels like Dallas should be looking to stick with this Glory-less lineup. Less drama, more legitimate range around Cambage and room for her to work, and fewer "no don't shoot that!" jumpshots from the 4.

You'd probably want a halfway reliable post back, given that things could look a bit thin after Cambage/Thornton/Stevens, but if she's in shape you could also just sign someone like Larkins off her couch. So... maybe a draft pick in return?



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Or Johnson for Harrison + LV 2nd (if they still have one?).



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