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PostPosted: 11/18/18 7:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think this has been posted her before. It shows the WNBL average pay is $10,600 per year. Accuracy? IDK. At least the numbers for the WNBA look about right. ($74k). For the truly curious for $49 you can buy their report.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/789000/average-women-s-sports-salaries-by-league/


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PostPosted: 11/18/18 9:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
I think this has been posted her before. It shows the WNBL average pay is $10,600 per year. Accuracy? IDK. At least the numbers for the WNBA look about right. ($74k). For the truly curious for $49 you can buy their report.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/789000/average-women-s-sports-salaries-by-league/


The WNBL minimum salary is $7,500 per season, and while that amount would probably apply to most bench players in the league, each team would have starters who are on significantly more so I doubt the average is only $10.6k
(Note that the exchange rate atm is approx AUD$1.00 = USD$0.73)



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PostPosted: 11/18/18 10:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
Randy wrote:
I think this has been posted her before. It shows the WNBL average pay is $10,600 per year. Accuracy? IDK. At least the numbers for the WNBA look about right. ($74k). For the truly curious for $49 you can buy their report.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/789000/average-women-s-sports-salaries-by-league/


The WNBL minimum salary is $7,500 per season, and while that amount would probably apply to most bench players in the league, each team would have starters who are on significantly more so I doubt the average is only $10.6k
(Note that the exchange rate atm is approx AUD$1.00 = USD$0.73)


Yeah and if you add the stars in at much higher salaries (we assume) 10.6 seems too low. Also - I remember the Aussie Net ball numbers seemed pretty crazy too.


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PostPosted: 11/20/18 4:46 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Melbourne Boomers vs Townsville Fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzCkLUM5SAw

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PostPosted: 11/24/18 9:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Melbourne vs Adelaide tips off in about 1 hour, and will be live streamed here
On current form it should be a comfortable win for Melbourne, meaning that Magbegor could see some decent minutes (assuming her hand pulled up ok after Friday's game)



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PostPosted: 11/25/18 12:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
Melbourne vs Adelaide tips off in about 1 hour, and will be live streamed here
On current form it should be a comfortable win for Melbourne, meaning that Magbegor could see some decent minutes (assuming her hand pulled up ok after Friday's game)

Caught the last five minutes or so. What an absolute shambles that was down the stretch, culminating in Adelaide apparently not realising that they needed to foul when Melbourne started their possession up two with 25s on the game clock. All I saw of Magbegor was a really dumb foul before being benched for the final 4+ minutes.



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PostPosted: 11/25/18 5:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I didn't get to see any of it, so no comment other than being surprised that Adelaide, down one of their best players in Steph Blicavs, pushed the Boomers right to the wire in Melbourne. Melbourne must have done a lot wrong for that to happen.



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PostPosted: 11/25/18 6:26 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Round 7

In the big game to start the round, Canberra took down Melbourne. Griffin & Nurse starred as always, with some valuable assistance from Leilani Mitchell and young PG Maddison Rocci.
Sydney are still cursed, getting blown away by Perth and losing Ally Wilson to what looked like a serious knee injury. Fingers crossed that it's not the dreaded ACL.
Dandenong got a much-needed win to keep them in the playoff hunt.
On the same day Adelaide nearly caused a major upset against Melbourne, news came that the team is in deep trouble financially.
In the TV game, Bendigo had a win stolen from their grasp by bad call in the dying seconds of regulation time, and went on to lose in OT.

Canberra 72 (Griffin 16p 18r, Nurse 16p 5r, Rocci 16p, Mitchell 11p, Scherf 9p 7r, Wilson 2p 6r 4a 3s)
Melbourne 70 (Allen 24p 5r 5a, Garrick 12p 6r, O'Hea 12p, George 11p 6r, Talbot 7p)
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Dandenong 70 (Cole 20p 4a 4s, Laney 15p, Jarry 12p 13r, Pedersen 9p 7r, Lavey 8p 4a)
Adelaide 60 (Coffey 20p 9r, Seekamp 14p 7r 6a 5s, Nicholson 12p 7r, Planeta 8p, Alexander 8r)
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Bendigo 82 (Tobin 26p 19r 4a 4b, Wehrung 19p, Payne 17p 8r, Turner 6p 6r, Hurst 5p 5r 6a)
Townsville 89 [OT] (Batkovic 25p 16r 4b, Madgen 15p 14a 3s, Malott 13p 5r, Mincy 13p 5r, Cocks 12p 6a, Aokuso 6p 8r, Garbin 5p 5r)
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Sydney 67 (Tupaea 14p, Graham 14p, Smart 12p 6r, Wilson 7p 4a)
Perth 113 (Taylor 27p 7r, McPhee 21p 5r, Schwagmeyer 19p 7r, Steindl 16p 7r 3s, Farnworth 11p 6a, Allen 4p 11r)
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Melbourne 84 (O'Hea 24p 5a, Allen 18p 7r 6a 3s, Talbot 16p, George 12p 6r)
Adelaide 82 (Coffey 25p 19r 3s, Nicholson 19p, Seekamp 13p 5r 4a, Alexander 12p, Clydesdale 8p)
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Ladder
Perth 7-2
Canberra 6-2
Melbourne 8-4
Bendigo 6-4
Townsville 4-5
Dandenong 4-5
Adelaide 3-6
Sydney 0-10



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PostPosted: 11/26/18 4:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bendigo Spirit vs Townsville Fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqfZ8tD9TlI

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PostPosted: 11/26/18 12:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bad news from Adelaide:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/wnbl/wnbl-201819-adelaide-lightning-face-extinction-put-out-desperate-call-for-investors-to-help-save-club/news-story/052e70e5774b2cc64d5e58ea247b74fd?nk=95ba8fb8122d17f1614e3b52c64f8d4c-1543254284



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PostPosted: 11/26/18 1:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

You never know from the outside how much a player accepted to play somewhere, but it's odd that a team with money issues has two WNBA-level imports on their roster. Maybe their issues are at least in part because they've been trying to do things beyond their actual means.



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PostPosted: 11/26/18 2:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

250 fans per night? That's a high school "crowd" ...



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PostPosted: 11/26/18 5:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
Round 7

Perth 113 (Taylor 27p 7r, McPhee 21p 5r, Schwagmeyer 19p 7r, Steindl 16p 7r 3s, Farnworth 11p 6a, Allen 4p 11r)
Boxscore


That awkward moment when I completely forgot about her retirement, marriage, and motherhood, and assumed that Luuuc's dream (and hellcat's dream) had come true - Penny Taylor is playing in Perth. Very Happy


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PostPosted: 11/26/18 5:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Luuuc wrote:
Round 7

Perth 113 (Taylor 27p 7r, McPhee 21p 5r, Schwagmeyer 19p 7r, Steindl 16p 7r 3s, Farnworth 11p 6a, Allen 4p 11r)
Boxscore


That awkward moment when I completely forgot about her retirement, marriage, and motherhood, and assumed that Luuuc's dream (and hellcat's dream) had come true - Penny Taylor is playing in Perth. Very Happy

Sad
Perth apparently did try very $$ hard to sign her 3 seasons ago but she wasn't having it.


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You never know from the outside how much a player accepted to play somewhere, but it's odd that a team with money issues has two WNBA-level imports on their roster. Maybe their issues are at least in part because they've been trying to do things beyond their actual means.

Yeah that was my reaction too. Even before the season I was wondering how/why one of the worst-supported teams (who don't even charge for admission to their games) was putting together one of the most expensive rosters in the league.



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PostPosted: 11/26/18 6:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
250 fans per night? That's a high school "crowd" ...


I know the WNBL doesn't get large crowds, but that's sad. Curious what other teams draw?



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PostPosted: 11/26/18 6:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
ClayK wrote:
250 fans per night? That's a high school "crowd" ...

I know the WNBL doesn't get large crowds, but that's sad. Curious what other teams draw?

It varies widely. Townsville and Melbourne crowds are regularly in the 1500+ range. Everyone else would be measured in hundreds, not thousands, and sadly I'd also guess that 250 per game for Adelaide is actually wishful thinking.


Bendigo is another team at the bottom end of the attendance list, which can be seen in the YouTube clip 7 posts up from this one. (To Bendigo's credit, at least they don't sign WNBA players to their roster!)



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PostPosted: 12/02/18 1:17 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Round 8
Sydney got a win!
Bendigo were the big losers this round, getting smashed in both games. Canberra cop 2 tough losses as well to leave a mini gap below the top 2, but they will bounce back. Marianna Tolo is apparently due back next Sunday.
Adelaide put the club's bad financial news behind them and got a couple of important wins to put them on the edge of the top 4.
In the TV game, Melbourne jumped out of the blocks quickly and Townsville never quite managed to peg them back, not helped by a flare-up of Suzy Batkovic's shoulder/neck issue that forced her to the bench.


Townsville 93 (Batkovic 24p 12r 3b, Cocks 17p, Malott 13p 5r, Garbin 10p, Aokuso 9p, Madgen 4p 6a)
Bendigo 51 (Tomlinson 15p 7r 3b, Payne 11p 6r, Wehrung 7p)
Boxscore

Dandenong 80 (Mijovic 26p 9r, Cole 21p, Pedersen 12p 7r)
Adelaide 86 (Coffey 18p, Planeta 13p 5r 4a, Clydesdale 13p, Alexander 12p 11r, Seekamp 9p 5r 6a, Blicavs 7p 4a)
Boxscore

Perth 88 (Schwagmeyer 22p 5r, Taylor 21p 9r 5a, Steindl 12p 6r, McPhee 11p 9r, Mansfield 9p)
Canberra 84 (Nurse 17p 9r, Mitchell 16p, Griffin 14p 14r, Scherf 14p 5r, Froling 9p, Wilson 2p 5r 8a)
Boxscore

Melbourne 73 (Talbot 16p, Garrick 15p 5r, George 11p 8r 6a 5s, Allen 11p 4r 5a, O'Hea 8p, Purcell 4p 8r 5s)
Townsville 67 (Malott 17p, Cocks 14p, Aokuso 12p 10r, Garbin 11p 7r, Madgen 7p 5a)
Boxscore
YouTube

Sydney 85 (Smart 22p 5r 7a, Tupaea 16p 6a, Graham 14p, Snell 11p 7r 4a 3b, Greaves 8p 7r 3s)
Bendigo 64 (Tobin 20p, Payne 15p)
Boxscore

Adelaide 91 (Seekamp 24p 5r 5a, Alexander 17p 13r 3b, Blicavs 11p 6r 5a, Nicholson 11p 7r, Planeta 10p 6r, Coffey 10p)
Canberra 83 (Griffin 23p 12r 4a, Scherf 14p 6r, Wilson 13p 6r 11a, Nurse 10p 5r, Rocci 8p, Mitchell 7p 4a)
Boxscore


Ladder
Perth 8-2
Melbourne 9-4
Canberra 6-4
Bendigo 6-6
Adelaide 5-6
Townsville 5-6
Dandenong 4-6
Sydney 1-10



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PostPosted: 12/02/18 12:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

As I've said many times before, Nurse's game deteriorates when she tries to be the #1 option. Unfortunately, teams keep putting her in that position. In Kia's last 4 games, she has shot 4-12, 5-15, 6-21, and 4-15. Her season shooting percentages are down to 35% FG and 30% 3Pt. Kia needs to dial it back. Let your teammates carry more of the load. OK, Canberra started the year without Tolo and Mitchell so Nurse had to do more. But now, FLB is back and healthy. She's been a #1 option in Australia and is a 3-time All-Star Five (their All-League equivalent). Griffin is a two-time All-Star Five and two-time finals MVP. And now Tolo is coming back. She was All-Star Five just two years ago. From a WNBL perspective, this team is loaded. There is no reason why Nurse needs to play hero-ball anymore.



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PostPosted: 12/02/18 4:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I didn't see the Adelaide-Canberra game, but in the Perth-Canberra one she wasn't playing hero ball. Nailed her first 3 threes in the first quarter, but was just inexplicably cold for the rest of the game. She wasn't putting up bad shots, they were mostly good looks that her team would want her to take. I was sitting there counting all the bullets we were dodging.
After she made her first 3, she went 0-17 from the perimeter for the rest of the weekend, which is pretty freaky.



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PostPosted: 12/02/18 11:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I see that the University of Canberra has a WNBL team. Is that an all-amateur team competing with pros?


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PostPosted: 12/02/18 11:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
I didn't see the Adelaide-Canberra game, but in the Perth-Canberra one she wasn't playing hero ball. Nailed her first 3 threes in the first quarter, but was just inexplicably cold for the rest of the game. She wasn't putting up bad shots, they were mostly good looks that her team would want her to take. I was sitting there counting all the bullets we were dodging.
After she made her first 3, she went 0-17 from the perimeter for the rest of the weekend, which is pretty freaky.


I'm not sure if that makes me feel better or worse. Laughing



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PostPosted: 12/03/18 7:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Melbourne Boomers vs Townsville Fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bireh66H1Ic

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Also, random stat time:
Ezi Magbegor: 8.1 ppg (49%), 4.7 rpg
Zitina Aokuso: 8.0 ppg (44%), 5.1 rpg
I'll be interested to see what has happened to those numbers by season's end.



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Interesting, I never heard of Aokuso. She's 6-4 and athletic enough to dunk, so if she's as productive or more productive than Magbegor, then she should draw interest from somebody. Aokuso's birthday is November 23, 1998, so she was draft eligible this year. I remember a discussion about whether foreign players are eligible twice if they have late birthdays and don't turn 21 before the next draft. Never heard if that was resolved. Otherwise, someone can merely sign Aokuso as a free agent.



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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/wnbl-fine-capitals-2500-for-inflammatory-comments-after-bloodbath-20181203-p50jy5.html

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stever wrote:
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/wnbl-fine-capitals-2500-for-inflammatory-comments-after-bloodbath-20181203-p50jy5.html


They accused Asia Taylor of a dirty elbow on needed-8-stitches Kelsey Griffin, but the "inflammatory comments" fine seems like it is mostly or wholly from players and the coach criticizing the refs. Every league must forbid that.


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