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PostPosted: 03/12/18 8:21 pm    ::: WNIT Field Reply Reply with quote

Brackets announced later tonight.

Automatic Qualifiers

Alabama (17-13) - SEC
Albany (24-7) - America East
Ball State (24-6) - MAC
Bethune-Cookman (24-6) - MEAC
Bucknell (22-9) - Patriot
Drexel (26-7) - Colonial
Duquesne (23-7) - Atlantic 10
ETSU (20-12) - Southern
Idaho (19-13) - Big Sky
Indiana (17-14) - Big Ten
IUPUI (22-9) - Horizon
Jacksonville (24- 8) - Atlantic Sun
Lamar (22-7) - Southland
Marist (20-13) - Metro Atlantic
Missouri State (20-11) - MVC
New Mexico State (18-12) - WAC
Penn (21- 8) - Ivy
Radford (23- 8) - Big South
​Robert Morris (25-7) - NEC
St. John’s (16-14) - Big East
Saint Mary's (20-10) - West Coast
South Dakota (26-6) - Summit
Southern (17-13) - SWAC
TCU (19-12) - Big 12
Texas State (23-9) - Sun Belt
UAB (26-6) - Conference USA
UC Davis (25-6) - Big West
​UCF (21-10) - American
UNLV (19-11) - Mountain West
​UT Martin (19-14) - Ohio Valley
Virginia Tech (18-13) - ACC

At-Large Selections

Chattanooga (17-12) - Southern
Cincinnati (19-12) - American
Colorado State (20-11) - Mountain West
Delaware (19-12) - Colonial
Fordham (22-9) - Atlantic 10
George Mason (23-9) - Atlantic 10
Georgetown (15-15) - Big East
Georgia Tech (18-13) - ACC
Harvard (18-10) - Ivy
Houston (20-11) - American
James Madison (21-10) - Colonial
Kansas State (16-15) - Big 12
Louisiana Tech (19-11) - CUSA
Miami (OH) (21-10) - MAC
Michigan State (17-13) - Big Ten
MTSU (18-12) - CUSA
Milwaukee (20-11) - Horizon
Navy (25-7) - Patriot
New Mexico (23-10) - Mountain West
Northern Iowa (19-13) - MVC
Penn State (16-15) - Big Ten
Purdue (18-13) - Big Ten
Toledo (17-14) - MAC
Rice (22-9) - CUSA
Rutgers (20-12) - Big Ten
St. Joseph’s (18-14) - Atlantic 10
Saint Louis (17-15) - Atlantic 10
Seton Hall (16-15) - Big East
​Utah (17-13) - Pac-12
Western Illinois (22-9) - Summit
West Virginia (21-11) - Big 12
Wright State (23-10) - Horizon
Wyoming (21-10) - Mountain West


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PostPosted: 03/12/18 8:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

did USC decline the invite again?



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PostPosted: 03/12/18 8:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
did USC decline the invite again?


That's the word that's going around.



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PostPosted: 03/12/18 8:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Their tweet:

"Proud of our 20-win season and the #FightOn in this team! Thank you to our coaches and to our seniors for your leadership, dedication and fight... We are Trojan Family for life! Great things ahead for all of these Women of Troy!#StayGold"


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PostPosted: 03/12/18 9:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rutgers has withdrawn. Replaced by Stephen F. Austin.

http://www.nj.com/rutgerswomen/index.ssf/2018/03/rutgers_womens_basketball_turns_down_wnit_bid_afte.html#incart_river_index




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PostPosted: 03/12/18 9:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

First round matchups


ROUND ONE
​Wednesday, March 14:
Southern at Alabama
Jacksonville at UCF
St. Joseph’s at Seton Hall

Thursday, March 15:
Western Illinois at South Dakota
Houston at Colorado State
Cincinnati at Michigan State
Saint Mary’s at New Mexico
Texas State at Rice
Lamar at TCU
Missouri State at Louisiana Tech
Purdue at IUPUI
Middle Tennessee at Ball State
UT Martin at Indiana
Milwaukee at Northern Iowa
New Mexico State at Wyoming
Idaho at UC Davis
Saint Louis at Kansas State
UNLV at Utah
Bucknell at West Virginia
Radford at Penn State
ETSU at JMU
Marist at St. John’s
Duquesne at Miami (OH)
Bethune-Cookman at Georgia Tech
Chattanooga at UAB

Friday, March 16:
Wright State at Toledo
Albany at Penn
Delaware at Georgetown
Harvard at Fordham
Robert Morris at Drexel
Stephen F. Austin at George Mason
Navy at Virginia Tech


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PostPosted: 03/12/18 9:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Here are the matchups.

https://www.womensnit.com/news/round-1-matchups-announced-for-2018-postseason-wnit


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PostPosted: 03/12/18 9:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie-

Home games on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

St Joseph's at Seton Hall 3/14
Marist @ St John's 3/15
Harvard @ Fordham 3/16


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PostPosted: 03/12/18 9:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Did they forget South Dakota and Western Illinois are in the same conference Embarassed


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PostPosted: 03/12/18 9:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Purdue declined to host, which is weird. Hopefully it's an indication that something is afoot behind the scenes in West Lafayette.


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PostPosted: 03/12/18 10:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Queenie-

Home games on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

St Joseph's at Seton Hall 3/14
Marist @ St John's 3/15
Harvard @ Fordham 3/16


Two out of three ain't bad. (Traveling to and from Seton Hall on a weeknight is not in the cards.)



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PostPosted: 03/12/18 10:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Did they forget South Dakota and Western Illinois are in the same conference Embarassed


They often do that. I've seen P12 matchups against each other in the second and third round repeatedly. It's because of the geographic thingie where they try to cut down travel expense.



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Purdue declined to host, which is weird. Hopefully it's an indication that something is afoot behind the scenes in West Lafayette.


For teams that don't draw well, it's a money loser. Or there could simply have been a venue conflict.



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PostPosted: 03/12/18 10:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Matt5762 wrote:
Did they forget South Dakota and Western Illinois are in the same conference Embarassed


They often do that. I've seen P12 matchups against each other in the second and third round repeatedly. It's because of the geographic thingie where they try to cut down travel expense.


Yeah, 2nd round on is par for the course in the WNIT but I don't think I've ever seen it in the 1st round.

...and I guess they didn't mean to do it either. Bracket version 2.0 just released:
Houston @ South Dakota
Western Illinois @ Colorado State


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PostPosted: 03/12/18 10:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Purdue declined to host, which is weird. Hopefully it's an indication that something is afoot behind the scenes in West Lafayette.


For teams that don't draw well, it's a money loser. Or there could simply have been a venue conflict.


Neither seem true. No conflicting event, and Purdue higher attendance that most of not all of the teams in tournament.

Or maybe I am just grasping at straws.


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I don't think I'll ever understand healthy teams turning down the WNIT or NIT.

It's not the NCAA, but if I have a team that is wanting to improve (and if you're hovering around the 65th best team, you have room for improvement), I think I'd rather be a top team in the WNIT instead of a bottom team in the NCAA.

Creme did an article on ESPN about OK being the last one in the NCAA and Rutgers being the first out. If Rutgers had gone to the WNIT they most likely would have played. more than one game. I'm pretty sure that OK is going to be one-n-done.

Unless there are some pretty extreme extenuating circumstances, IMO, this is the dumbest thing a school could do. It's like thumbing your nose at the NCAA.

Has a team that turned down the WNIT one year been an at large NCAA team the next year?



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PostPosted: 03/13/18 7:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Purdue declined to host, which is weird. Hopefully it's an indication that something is afoot behind the scenes in West Lafayette.


For teams that don't draw well, it's a money loser. Or there could simply have been a venue conflict.


If you look at Purdue's (vastly inflated) attendance numbers, that wouldn't be true for them. Per a recent interview with Versyp, they'd decided weeks ago that they wouldn't bid to host.


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PostPosted: 03/13/18 10:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ex-Ref wrote:
I don't think I'll ever understand healthy teams turning down the WNIT or NIT.

It's not the NCAA, but if I have a team that is wanting to improve (and if you're hovering around the 65th best team, you have room for improvement), I think I'd rather be a top team in the WNIT instead of a bottom team in the NCAA.

Creme did an article on ESPN about OK being the last one in the NCAA and Rutgers being the first out. If Rutgers had gone to the WNIT they most likely would have played. more than one game. I'm pretty sure that OK is going to be one-n-done.

Unless there are some pretty extreme extenuating circumstances, IMO, this is the dumbest thing a school could do. It's like thumbing your nose at the NCAA.

Has a team that turned down the WNIT one year been an at large NCAA team the next year?


Generally, one of the biggest advantages is more practice, given how limited the time is that coaches can spend with players.

But if a lot of players are dinged up, or the coach feels that more practice time would just exacerbate chemistry issues, then there's no need.

And sometimes, a season should be over -- for example, if the players and coaches are all feeling good about the past year and the future, why take a chance on having things start going in the opposite direction?



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PostPosted: 03/13/18 10:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Matt5762 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Matt5762 wrote:
Did they forget South Dakota and Western Illinois are in the same conference Embarassed


They often do that. I've seen P12 matchups against each other in the second and third round repeatedly. It's because of the geographic thingie where they try to cut down travel expense.


Yeah, 2nd round on is par for the course in the WNIT but I don't think I've ever seen it in the 1st round.

...and I guess they didn't mean to do it either. Bracket version 2.0 just released:
Houston @ South Dakota
Western Illinois @ Colorado State


I'm wondering how much stuff was planned before Rutgers said LOL NAH and how much reshuffling they had to do.



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PostPosted: 03/13/18 11:47 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

JMU hosting again, starting with ETSU. Any potential matchup with VA Tech, which a lot of people wanted to see, would be several wins down the road. I'd prefer it would occur next fall when it won't matter so much Wink



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PostPosted: 03/13/18 12:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Are all the games on ESPN3? I understand CBS Sports Network is broadcasting the final.


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JMU hosting again, starting with ETSU. Any potential matchup with VA Tech, which a lot of people wanted to see, would be several wins down the road. I'd prefer it would occur next fall when it won't matter so much Wink


Nothing wrong with a dose of confidence.

I got tickets to the PSU v Radford game, should be fun.


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PostPosted: 03/14/18 8:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
calbearman76 wrote:
Queenie-

Home games on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

St Joseph's at Seton Hall 3/14
Marist @ St John's 3/15
Harvard @ Fordham 3/16


Two out of three ain't bad. (Traveling to and from Seton Hall on a weeknight is not in the cards.)


Welp. Boy howdy am I glad I didn't try to pull the back-to-back-to-back. St. Joe's took Seton Hall down 75-57 in a game the Hall never really seemed to be in.

So long and thanks for all the buckets, Quanny.



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Queenie wrote:
Queenie wrote:
calbearman76 wrote:
Queenie-

Home games on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

St Joseph's at Seton Hall 3/14
Marist @ St John's 3/15
Harvard @ Fordham 3/16


Two out of three ain't bad. (Traveling to and from Seton Hall on a weeknight is not in the cards.)


Welp. Boy howdy am I glad I didn't try to pull the back-to-back-to-back. St. Joe's took Seton Hall down 75-57 in a game the Hall never really seemed to be in.

So long and thanks for all the buckets, Quanny.


How did you expect them to win without their talisman cheering them on?


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Coyotes wrote:
Queenie wrote:
Queenie wrote:
calbearman76 wrote:
Queenie-

Home games on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

St Joseph's at Seton Hall 3/14
Marist @ St John's 3/15
Harvard @ Fordham 3/16


Two out of three ain't bad. (Traveling to and from Seton Hall on a weeknight is not in the cards.)


Welp. Boy howdy am I glad I didn't try to pull the back-to-back-to-back. St. Joe's took Seton Hall down 75-57 in a game the Hall never really seemed to be in.

So long and thanks for all the buckets, Quanny.


How did you expect them to win without their talisman cheering them on?


Seton Hall has, astonishingly, been known to win without my or my husband's presence. Sometimes even despite my presence. Conversely, the last time I hauled out the 2.5 hours each way for a weeknight Seton Hall game, they choked away a halftime lead to Princeton.



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PostPosted: 03/15/18 9:22 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Alabama over Southern 69-56

UCF over Jacksonville 65-60

St. Joseph's over Seton Hall 75-57

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Alabama hosts UCF on Sunday March 18th
St. Joseph's plays the winner of West Virginia/Bucknell


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It's 37-22 St. John's at halftime over Marist. Fantastic offensive rebounding from our posts. Marist does so many little things well, but the thing I would most like to be able to replicate is to be able to get two busloads of fans to a game, let alone a road game.



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A WNIT bid for a school like USC has risks and rewards. The result could boost their reputation, or lower it. They could win it all, or lose to a mid-major in the first round. Or something in-between that may or not be to their liking.


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When younger, talented teams play deep in the WNIT it really helps them (Cal, UCLA). USC is a relatively veteran squad with mostly senior starters.

Maybe the coaches ask the players and they are just ready to be done and move on.


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JMU beat ETSU last night, 60-52. And who was it that said ETSU's Tianna Tarter couldn't shoot 3s? That girl is a bomb-thrower! She was in the couple of games I watched before, too, but not like last night. Thank goodness our long-range bomber, Lexie Barrier, was on target last night, scoring 27 for JMU, because ETSU managed to tie up Kamiah Smalls pretty effectively. That's the beauty of a team that works by committee.

Now our girls get to play Radford, who beat Penn State in OT in a game which was, by all accounts, a bit of a thriller.



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And who was it that said ETSU's Tianna Tarter couldn't shoot 3s?


That was me, and I stand by my statement. She was 1/8 in three games against against my Bears this season and 28% for the season.



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pilight wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
And who was it that said ETSU's Tianna Tarter couldn't shoot 3s?


That was me, and I stand by my statement. She was 1/8 in three games against against my Bears this season and 28% for the season.


Most 3-point shooters are streaky and not a whole lot better, when you come right down to it...including our Lexie! Wink



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PRballer wrote:
When younger, talented teams play deep in the WNIT it really helps them (Cal, UCLA). USC is a relatively veteran squad with mostly senior starters.

Maybe the coaches ask the players and they are just ready to be done and move on.


I seem to recall their A.D. always says no WNIT. Their last trip was in 2011 in spite of several more eligible seasons since.


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JMU beat ETSU last night, 60-52. And who was it that said ETSU's Tianna Tarter couldn't shoot 3s? That girl is a bomb-thrower! She was in the couple of games I watched before, too, but not like last night. Thank goodness our long-range bomber, Lexie Barrier, was on target last night, scoring 27 for JMU, because ETSU managed to tie up Kamiah Smalls pretty effectively. That's the beauty of a team that works by committee.

Now our girls get to play Radford, who beat Penn State in OT in a game which was, by all accounts, a bit of a thriller.


Lots of lead changes throughout the game, neck and neck the whole way.
Congrats to Radford, well played + coached. #4 has wicked speed off the bench. #10 was a size mismatch for PSU, and they took advantage of it.
PSU didn't have Green their #3 scorer and that made a difference. Page had to sit a long part of the 3rd.
Everybody got their money's worth on this one.

Hope JMU v Radford is as good a game.


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It looks to me like West Virginia has the easiest path to the final 4.



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5thmantheme wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
JMU beat ETSU last night, 60-52. And who was it that said ETSU's Tianna Tarter couldn't shoot 3s? That girl is a bomb-thrower! She was in the couple of games I watched before, too, but not like last night. Thank goodness our long-range bomber, Lexie Barrier, was on target last night, scoring 27 for JMU, because ETSU managed to tie up Kamiah Smalls pretty effectively. That's the beauty of a team that works by committee.

Now our girls get to play Radford, who beat Penn State in OT in a game which was, by all accounts, a bit of a thriller.


Lots of lead changes throughout the game, neck and neck the whole way.
Congrats to Radford, well played + coached. #4 has wicked speed off the bench. #10 was a size mismatch for PSU, and they took advantage of it.
PSU didn't have Green their #3 scorer and that made a difference. Page had to sit a long part of the 3rd.
Everybody got their money's worth on this one.



Hope JMU v Radford is as good a game.


At least we'll have a better crowd



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For certain.
And good luck, Radford won't take a nap during the game.

myrtle wrote:
It looks to me like West Virginia has the easiest path to the final 4.


Sagarin has them #23 overall, I think that's the best of the wnit.


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Radford came up to JMU tonight, and I suspect they wish they hadn't. I think they must have left it all on the floor Thursday, because they sure didn't bring anything with them! It was nearly five minutes before JMU let them score at all, and then it was a couple of free throws. Meanwhile, what the WNIT press release referred to as JMU's "three-headed monster" of Lexie Barrier, Kamiah Smalls, and Kelly Koshuta was racking up the points, joined by nearly everyone else on the team including freshman Tori Harris, who played significant minutes and nailed a brilliant 3-pointer as well as a nice inside layup and showed some real defensive prowess as well...she's so long that despite her rather frail appearance, she's very effective against tall players. Final score was 62-35, with JMU's bench playing most of the 4th quarter.

On a bittersweet note, former Duke Savannah Felgemacher, who is sitting out this year as a transfer to Radford, was welcomed back with hugs and smiles as well as a chant from the pep band of "You're still one of us!"

JMU now awaits a date with the winner of St. Joseph's-WVU. St. Joseph's beat them earlier this year and I'm sure revenge is on their minds.....WVU, OTOH, would probably be a killer.



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If it is St. Joe's, would you terribly mind beating sixty-two flavors of crap out of them? Knocked Fordham off two in a row and cost us any at-large consideration the A-10 might have gotten us, then knocked Seton Hall out of the WNIT.



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Queenie wrote:
If it is St. Joe's, would you terribly mind beating sixty-two flavors of crap out of them? Knocked Fordham off two in a row and cost us any at-large consideration the A-10 might have gotten us, then knocked Seton Hall out of the WNIT.


As I said, I'm sure revenge is on our girls' minds! And Kamiah is from Philly, also.....



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ACC
Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech

BIG-10
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan State
Penn State

PAC-12
Utah

BIG-12
West Virginia
TCU
Kansas State

SEC
Alabama


Other schools remaining
South Dakota
UC Davis
St. John's


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PostPosted: 03/24/18 1:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Those were 7 of the 8 teams I expected to make the final 8 when the bracket came out (minus UC Davis, obviously).

Seems kind of unusual to see the WNIT going so much to form, though hopefully as a result the rest of the tournament will be pretty exciting.


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PostPosted: 03/24/18 2:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I was a bit surprised TCU has done so well. But now my final four picks are:

So Dakota (obviously a tough game but the home crowd will carry the day)
Va Tech
Indiana
WVU

and WVU is still my overall winner.



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PostPosted: 03/24/18 2:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

South Dakota was my pre-tournament pick, presuming home court throughout and brutal travel on short notice for anyone who has to go there.

But Michigan State, TCU and potentially Indiana and WVU would definitely be a gauntlet by WNIT standards.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 1:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Indiana ... last women standing , holding up the honor of the Big 10.


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PostPosted: 03/26/18 11:47 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Go Hokies! They've had a pretty remarkable run towards the end of Kenny's second season.



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PostPosted: 03/28/18 10:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

5thmantheme wrote:
Indiana ... last women standing , holding up the honor of the Big 10.


I'm so happy for Tyra Buss....and this is a much longer run than they'd have had if they'd made it to the NCAA tourney. Go Hoosiers!



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PostPosted: 03/28/18 11:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Go Hokies! Really pleased with how this team came on toward the end of the season.64-61 over WVU tonight. They were my second choice after JMU.



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PostPosted: 03/29/18 8:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2018/03/28/tyra-buss-leads-iu-women-wnit-final-our-ultimate-goal-you-know-hang-banner/465536002/

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Buss increased her season total to 747 points, a total exceeded by three male IU players: Calbert Cheaney (785 in 1993), Scott May (752 in 1976) and Steve Alford (749 in 1987).



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PostPosted: 03/29/18 12:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

stever wrote:
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2018/03/28/tyra-buss-leads-iu-women-wnit-final-our-ultimate-goal-you-know-hang-banner/465536002/

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Buss increased her season total to 747 points, a total exceeded by three male IU players: Calbert Cheaney (785 in 1993), Scott May (752 in 1976) and Steve Alford (749 in 1987).


So, she'll out-score them all by the end of the final. Good for her!


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