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Silky Johnson
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| I've paid a lot less attention to the World Cup since none of it seems to be on free feeds. If anyone wonders why the Olympics are a bigger deal to us, they could start there. |
That is NOT the reason why. Americas have ALWAYS seen the Olympic Gold
Medal in Basketball as the apotheosis of International Basketball.
To this day, USA Basketball sees it the same way. Olympic Basketball
predates FIBA and their World Championship. USA Basketball does not
like and did not ask for FIBA's STUPID attempt to become the next FIFA.
FIBA is so EURO centric that they use the language, structure, traditions,
& trappings of SOCCER in their attempt to "GROW" the game as they call
it. Sorry, basketball in Europe has achieved all it will EVER achieve. And
NO soccer first nation will sacrifice its soccer national teams in an attempt
to chase elusive basketball medals. |
I wouldn't say that it's exclusive to Europe. As near as I can tell, USA is the only developed nation in the world where the Olympics is a bigger deal than the WC, even before it was re-branded as the "World Cup of Basketball."
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Richyyy
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:24 pm ::: |
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| So much for thinking this would be a close match. Belgium has looked very impressive this tournament. Didn't think they'd be a medal contender, especially since it's their World Cup debut. Is it more that Belgium has drastically improved, or teams like France, Spain and Turkey have taken a step back? |
Both, but the Belgian team of the last couple of years is far and away the beat team they've ever had.
Much as I love her slightly insane all-action backup Carpreaux, Julie Allemand's been poetry in motion running this team tonight. |
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:24 pm ::: |
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| So much for thinking this would be a close match. Belgium has looked very impressive this tournament. Didn't think they'd be a medal contender, especially since it's their World Cup debut. Is it more that Belgium has drastically improved, or teams like France, Spain and Turkey have taken a step back? |
A significant amount of both factors I think.
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MrCam
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:27 pm ::: |
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| Magbegor needs to learn how to play D in the WNBA, otherwise she won't have any success. |
I have a better explanation for Magbegor: she does not and probably
never will live up to the hype she generated in 2016 FIBA U17 Tour-
nament. When you compare Magbegor to A'ja, she is a SCRUB. But then
again, A'ja is the second coming of Candace Parker, minus the perimeter
shooting. Name ONE non-American number four [PF] front court player
that is better than A'ja today or you think will be better than A'ja by the
2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo. |
Breanna Stewart, Elena Delle Donne
wow that was easy |
non-American: Reading comprehension.
A'ja is a BORN PF. Since the day her father started her basketball
education & training she was groomed to play PF. Breanna is NOT
a PF. EDD is NOT a pf nor is she a guard. And EDD sure had a bet-
ter WNBA season than A'ja.
Captain Genisis.
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Silky Johnson
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:30 pm ::: |
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| ...Then there is Jonquel Jones of the Bahamas, who if she returns to form could easily eclipse Aja Wilson... |
Are we sure about that? Jones' per/36 and Advanced numbers this year pretty closely resemble her rookie year. It's hardly out of the question that last year was entirely an aberration.
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Aladyyn
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:34 pm ::: |
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| I think Emma and Jonquel have the same issue. They have the skill to be superstars but not the mindset.
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MrCam
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:36 pm ::: |
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[/quote]
The easy answer to this question is clearly Emma Meeseman. Ezi Magbegor is at least four years younger than Wilson -- so she has plenty of time to develop by Tokyo. I wouldn't count her out yet. Then there is Jonquel Jones of the Bahamas, who if she returns to form could easily eclipse Aja Wilson. Raisa Musina would be an outside contender to run alongside Maria Vadeeva.[/quote]
Maria Vadeeva is a JOKE. Look at her debut WNBA season and compare it to
A'ja, case closed. And we may get our chance to see A'ja play against
Meeseman.
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toad455
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:38 pm ::: |
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| toad455 wrote: |
| So much for thinking this would be a close match. Belgium has looked very impressive this tournament. Didn't think they'd be a medal contender, especially since it's their World Cup debut. Is it more that Belgium has drastically improved, or teams like France, Spain and Turkey have taken a step back? |
Both, but the Belgian team of the last couple of years is far and away the beat team they've ever had.
Much as I love her slightly insane all-action backup Carpreaux, Julie Allemand's been poetry in motion running this team tonight. |
I wonder if a few WNBA teams might give Allemand a call this winter and convince her to come over?
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:50 pm ::: |
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| France with the comeback
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:51 pm ::: |
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| Silky Johnson wrote: |
| MrCam wrote: |
| myrtle wrote: |
| I've paid a lot less attention to the World Cup since none of it seems to be on free feeds. If anyone wonders why the Olympics are a bigger deal to us, they could start there. |
That is NOT the reason why. Americas have ALWAYS seen the Olympic Gold
Medal in Basketball as the apotheosis of International Basketball.
To this day, USA Basketball sees it the same way. Olympic Basketball
predates FIBA and their World Championship. USA Basketball does not
like and did not ask for FIBA's STUPID attempt to become the next FIFA.
FIBA is so EURO centric that they use the language, structure, traditions,
& trappings of SOCCER in their attempt to "GROW" the game as they call
it. Sorry, basketball in Europe has achieved all it will EVER achieve. And
NO soccer first nation will sacrifice its soccer national teams in an attempt
to chase elusive basketball medals. |
I wouldn't say that it's exclusive to Europe. As near as I can tell, USA is the only developed nation in the world where the Olympics is a bigger deal than the WC, even before it was re-branded as the "World Cup of Basketball." |
You can add Canada to your list.
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Silky Johnson
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| Posted: 09/28/18 12:57 pm ::: |
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| I'm hardly convinced that the Olympics are a bigger deal to Canada than the WC.
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MrCam
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| Posted: 09/28/18 1:03 pm ::: |
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| I'm hardly convinced that the Olympics are a bigger deal to Canada than the WC. |
In Basketball, yes.
This forum has a few regular Canadian posters that cannot stand FIBA.
http://www.interbasket.net/forums/
However, it could be these posters do not represent Canadian Basketball
fandom as a whole.
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| Posted: 09/28/18 1:06 pm ::: |
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| Wilson is a number 1 scoring option. A franchise player while Meesseman is a numb er 2 option. And im a fan of Emma for years. That is just her mindset.
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MrCam
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| Posted: 09/28/18 1:20 pm ::: |
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You stated:
Wilson is a number 1 scoring option. A franchise player while Meesseman is a number 2 option. And i'm a fan of Emma for years. That is just her mindset.
A'ja is the second coming of Candace Parker, minus the perimeter shooting.
I have never seen Meesseman play. However, I do not believe that Emma
is in the same GALAXY in the paint as A'ja Wilson is. And I do not believe
that Emma can guard A'ja BY HERSELF one on one. Remember folks, A'ja
is a first year pro. Her game will only expand and improve. A'ja does not
need to be a perimeter shooter like Breanna. Once she can achieve say
50% shooting from 15 feet/4.75 meters and in, she will be set.
This is A'ja when she is on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VvUts9o6nc
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SDHoops
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| Posted: 09/28/18 1:34 pm ::: |
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| MrCam wrote: |
You stated:
Wilson is a number 1 scoring option. A franchise player while Meesseman is a number 2 option. And i'm a fan of Emma for years. That is just her mindset.
A'ja is the second coming of Candace Parker, minus the perimeter shooting.
I have never seen Meesseman play. However, I do not believe that Emma
is in the same GALAXY in the paint as A'ja Wilson is. And I do not believe
that Emma can guard A'ja BY HERSELF one on one. Remember folks, A'ja
is a first year pro. Her game will only expand and improve. A'ja does not
need to be a perimeter shooter like Breanna. Once she can achieve say
50% shooting from 15 feet/4.75 meters and in, she will be set.
This is A'ja when she is on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VvUts9o6nc |
Ok dad, brother, cousin, or whoever. lol!~ A'ja has proven she needs her teammates to be successful and good guards to spread the floor. Dawn is letting her pad the Team USA stats..anybody else coaches, she's an average joe.
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| Posted: 09/28/18 1:49 pm ::: |
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| Sure, MrCam has walked in with both guns blazing over Wilson, but still she definitely is not any variety of average Joe. You don't do what she just did as a rookie without some serious ability.
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| Posted: 09/28/18 1:51 pm ::: |
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You stated:
Wilson is a number 1 scoring option. A franchise player while Meesseman is a number 2 option. And i'm a fan of Emma for years. That is just her mindset.
A'ja is the second coming of Candace Parker, minus the perimeter shooting.
I have never seen Meesseman play. However, I do not believe that Emma
is in the same GALAXY in the paint as A'ja Wilson is. And I do not believe
that Emma can guard A'ja BY HERSELF one on one. Remember folks, A'ja
is a first year pro. Her game will only expand and improve. A'ja does not
need to be a perimeter shooter like Breanna. Once she can achieve say
50% shooting from 15 feet/4.75 meters and in, she will be set.
This is A'ja when she is on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VvUts9o6nc |
Ok dad, brother, cousin, or whoever. lol!~ A'ja has proven she needs her teammates to be successful and good guards to spread the floor. Dawn is letting her pad the Team USA stats..anybody else coaches, she's an average joe. |
So A'ja average joe had a "failed" first year in the WNBA? With your
sterling basketball credentials, we can fully expect you to take over Team
USA's Mens program from Pop. I'll wait for the announcement at
USAbaskebtall.com.
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| Posted: 09/28/18 3:46 pm ::: |
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Spain earns the right to be the Aussies sacrificial lamb.
Aussies by 20 or more.
Belgium gets to dance with Team USA.
Team USA by 20 or more.
We will have an Aussie Team USA Final.
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Silky Johnson
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| Posted: 09/28/18 3:48 pm ::: |
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:: sighs ::
Welp, that escalated quickly. And, just like that, my sentimental medal pick is out on their ass.
Oh, Canada...
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| Posted: 09/28/18 3:49 pm ::: |
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| Canada just completely fell apart in the fourth. Lots to build on for 2020.
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