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PostPosted: 01/08/18 1:05 pm    ::: UCF @ #1 Connecticut 1/09/18 Reply Reply with quote

Storrs, CT - 7:00 PM ET
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Has Shades retired?



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PostPosted: 01/08/18 3:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

As for the AAC:

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+we+gotta+get+out+of+this+place&qpvt=youtube+we+gotta+get+out+of+this+place&FORM=VDRE


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I think he got mad at us.



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There should be a poll...
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PostPosted: 01/08/18 6:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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cthskzfn wrote:
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I think he got mad at us.


aww, poor guy.



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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ok, i expected a letdown after the USF effort, but this is rigodamndiculus.



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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

7-6 CT at the first break. 4:22

UCF taking it to UConn, as much as they can be expected to. Let's see if the hometown team punches back the rest of the quarter.



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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

18-8 after 1.

UCF is the worst shooting team I've seen in a looong time, but they're scrappy, and hustling defensively.

They run the shot clock down and either miss good shots or don't get a good shot. Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

UCF may not be very good but they make up for a lack of offensive skills with physicality. Kaba looks like a nice freshman. Let's see how she does against Stevens.


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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

this is gonna be one of those games that pisses me off...open shots missed, stevens taking 25 footers...

omg , they finally worked the ball inside to Stevens for the easy, wide-open BUNNY.

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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

so stevens, 5-33 from 3, let's fly from the left corner with only 20 seconds on the shot clock.

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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A lot of contact being ignored. This usually ends up with the players getting more and more physical and the refs calling everything in the second half.


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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This is what happens in a league where one team is totally dominant. The other teams cannot compete so they have to play rough/physical. Kind of like boxing where if you cannot outbox them you have to fight them.

Not a good situation where injuries can easily come about and ruin your year. UConn has the most to lose in these tackle football games.


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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

As much as Stevens can't hit 3's. Samuelson stinks at layups


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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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As much as Stevens can't hit 3's. Samuelson stinks at layups


Nurse is worse.



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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Even the Officials knocking players down... Laughing


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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The non-call on the literal pull-down of KLS, as she went for a loose ball, was a glaring miss by the refs.



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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The non-call on the literal pull-down of KLS, as she went for a loose ball, was a glaring miss by the refs.


What yard line was that on?


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PostPosted: 01/09/18 7:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

geno almost burst a blood vessel screaming at Stevens, after she drifted 15 ft from the basket and allowed a wiiiiiiiide open layup.

this team man......a bunch of amateurs. Smile



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PostPosted: 01/09/18 8:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

last play of the 3rd KLS takes a steal to the hoop foe 2 and gets body slammed to the floor without a call. Un-fukin-believable.


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PostPosted: 01/09/18 8:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

htf was that foul not called on the kls fastbreak?

UConn kept in lockerroom almost until 2nd half buzzer. No warm ups at all.



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last play of the 3rd KLS takes a steal to the hoop foe 2 and gets body slammed to the floor without a call. Un-fukin-believable.


Brutal! These officials should be censored...


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The TV production sucks. Every replay zooms in so far that you can't see the play. Who cares to watch the ball arcing in the air?

Can't they find someone to do this that is more interested in showing basketball instead of artistic merit?


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sorry, but I find it hilarious that UCOnn fans are complaining about the refs!



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Stevens makes A LOT of mistakes. I thought, coming from Duke, that she would play 'smarter'...but not so much.



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Other than her shooting tonight Williams has been a man among boys. I wonder how many balls she deflects to team mates without getting credit for the steal?


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This team is basically a rugby team in b-ball unis. The complaints about refs are not bad calls re normal officiating it’s allowing a team to basically try to hurt players without consequences and this team seems to get away with it every year.

It is 10 times worse watching from the floor, especially the off the ball stuff.




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sorry, but I find it hilarious that UCOnn fans are complaining about the refs!



We can't bitch about shit calls because we're fans of the most dominant program in the history of NCAA women's basketball?

Or what? Cool



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[quote="myrtle"sorry, but I find it hilarious that UCOnn fans are complaining about the refs![/quote]

I watched Canada drive the lane over the weekend and go to the line on the slightest brush on her body. On the play I complained about KLS was in the air when the UCF defender came across the lane and literally ran into her, knocking KLS to the floor.

Did you even watch the game? I read a lot of comments about how the AAC schedule is a cakewalk for UConn and the competition is certainly weak but a black and blue bruise isn't less painful when it's caused by a mediocre player's elbow or knee.




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Other than her shooting tonight Williams has been a man among boys. I wonder how many balls she deflects to team mates without getting credit for the steal?


Her length and instincts are frightening. Can't wait to watch her as a pro.



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cthskzfn wrote:
myrtle wrote:
sorry, but I find it hilarious that UCOnn fans are complaining about the refs!



We can't bitch about shit calls because we're fans of the most dominant program in the history of NCAA women's basketball?

Or what? Cool


Maybe, it was just a freakish moment of immaturity mixed with small touches of envy and jealousy. I'd like to think not... But, it's forgivable. Right? Laughing


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I think anyone who was tracking the game and looking at the free throw disparity was questioning why y'all were questioning the officials.

I watched part of the game and understand why y'all were. The only reliable way to beat UConn- inasmuch as anything that happens with the frequency of an eclipse can be said to be reliable- is to get down in the mud and drag them there with you.



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Yeah I agree with that premise and actually don’t think Uconn minds getting in the mud but this team is well known for dirty play and has been for years. There is a difference between physical and dirty.


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Other than her shooting tonight Williams has been a man among boys. I wonder how many balls she deflects to team mates without getting credit for the steal?


Didn't even have to tune in to know this statement is true .



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Geno apparently spent the entire half time “explaining to the players” that the refs are not there, despite what they think, to help them score just because they are UCONN, that his team has to learn to make a shot through contact.

In his post game press conference he never once took exception with the way the game was officiated but did go after his players for whining about the refs and to a point where he said scarcastically he was going to call the head of offiicsls and relay to them that his players felt that the other team was not letting them play the way they want to, that the other team is actually trying to defend them, that the other team is playing the game the way they want to against UCONN.

Also regarding Azura Stevens defense, he had this observation. She plays both ends of the court extremely well, she is dominant, however the problem is she does not play both ends in the same half. Brrr, it is cold in Storrs tonight especially inside.



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I agree w/ Geno- he basically said this is a team of pussies. Given the experience they had in the FF last year, such an observation is very disappointing. They have yet to have the 2002 team's epiphany.

It's times like this i long for the balls of the teams of lobo, elliott and rizzotti, et al, which would put your head in a vice and squeeze until there was no more yellow matter custard to drip from your dead eye.

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I agree w/ Geno- he basically said this is a team of pussies. Given the experience they had in the FF last year, such an observation is very disappointing. They have yet to have the 2002 team's epiphany.

It's times like this i long for the balls of the teams of lobo, elliott and rizzotti, et al, which would put your head in a vice and squeeze until there was no more yellow matter custard to drip from your dead eye.

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I miss the days when, faced by physical play, a coach had a couple of enforcers on the bench who would be sent into the game specifically to commit some hard fouls. I've seen games where when UConn starters responded to toughness with toughness and suddenly the refs started blowing their whistles and UConn found itself in foul trouble.

So while I thought that Geno's postgame comments were the right thing to say by a coach to his team he should also see how his penchant for playing 6 players in big games makes his team vulnerable to this sort of gamesmanship. If I had been the coach I would have used Camara to send a message, whether or not she "gets it" in practice. From my experience when only one team is playing tough and they are the underdogs the refs often look the other way, ala Louisville Vs Baylor in 2013(?). And when the other team starts returning the toughness blow for blow the officials suddenly find their whistles. Last night UConn let UCF beat them up and because they were almighty UConn the refs allowed it. But if say Camara came in and knocked a couple of UCF players into the second row the way the game was being called would have changed quickly.


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I can't figure out who's whining or why -- Geno, his players or fans. UConn won by 36 points and shot 50% against what I thought was the best coached defense they've faced all year, albeit a defense composed of mediocre players who had little offensive capability aside from Wright and Saunders.

UConn's bench is doomed if they can't get into AAC games. Camara and Gordon didn't play at all, and I still haven't seen an answer to WHERE IS ANDRA ESPINOZA-HUNTER. Is she on the team, in school, what?

Geno said after the game, in answer to why he doesn't play bench players, something to the effect that, "if you saw how they play in practice, how tentative they are to make plays, you'd wonder why they even got basketball scholarships." Well . . . who recruited and gave scholarships to them, instead of someone else?
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I can't figure out who's whining or why -- Geno, his players or fans. UConn won by 36 points and shot 50% against what I thought was the best coached defense they've faced all year, albeit a defense composed of mediocre players who had little offensive capability aside from Wright and Saunders.

UConn's bench is doomed if they can't get into AAC games. Camara and Gordon didn't play at all, and I still haven't seen an answer to WHERE IS ANDRA ESPINOZA-HUNTER. Is she on the team, in school, what?

Geno said after the game, in answer to why he doesn't play bench players, something to the effect that, "if you saw how they play in practice, how tentative they are to make plays, you'd wonder why they even got basketball scholarships." Well . . . who recruited and gave scholarships to them, instead of someone else?


according to what I read Geno said something to the effect of we'll know in the next few days if she's still on the team. He said it's doubtful because she's not there.

He also said the end of the bench players can't string together three good days of practice and they won't play more until they do.


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I can't figure out who's whining or why -- Geno, his players or fans. UConn won by 36 points and shot 50% against what I thought was the best coached defense they've faced all year, albeit a defense composed of mediocre players who had little offensive capability aside from Wright and Saunders.

UConn's bench is doomed if they can't get into AAC games. Camara and Gordon didn't play at all, and I still haven't seen an answer to WHERE IS ANDRA ESPINOZA-HUNTER. Is she on the team, in school, what?

Geno said after the game, in answer to why he doesn't play bench players, something to the effect that, "if you saw how they play in practice, how tentative they are to make plays, you'd wonder why they even got basketball scholarships." Well . . . who recruited and gave scholarships to them, instead of someone else?


according to what I read Geno said something to the effect of we'll know in the next few days if she's still on the team. He said it's doubtful because she's not there.

He also said the end of the bench players can't string together three good days of practice and they won't play more until they do.


I have no problem with the hard work and dedication he demands, but if I was a recruit or player I'm not sure I'd put up with much of being publicly trashed. My reaction would likely be don't need it, can go lots of other places without the abuse, take your scholarship and shove it.

If McCallie said this about any of her players people here would be in an uproar.


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dtsnms wrote:
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I can't figure out who's whining or why -- Geno, his players or fans. UConn won by 36 points and shot 50% against what I thought was the best coached defense they've faced all year, albeit a defense composed of mediocre players who had little offensive capability aside from Wright and Saunders.

UConn's bench is doomed if they can't get into AAC games. Camara and Gordon didn't play at all, and I still haven't seen an answer to WHERE IS ANDRA ESPINOZA-HUNTER. Is she on the team, in school, what?

Geno said after the game, in answer to why he doesn't play bench players, something to the effect that, "if you saw how they play in practice, how tentative they are to make plays, you'd wonder why they even got basketball scholarships." Well . . . who recruited and gave scholarships to them, instead of someone else?


according to what I read Geno said something to the effect of we'll know in the next few days if she's still on the team. He said it's doubtful because she's not there.

He also said the end of the bench players can't string together three good days of practice and they won't play more until they do.


As to AEH, I've watched her since she was a 7th grader on the Ossining H.S. varsity when her nickname was "Disney Channel". I wondered why she left the Ossining powerhouse to go to Blair Academy. Well, aside from basketball, which is sometimes what we focus on too much, Blair is an academic college preparatory school. Then I wondered why she left Blair to go back to Ossining. Now she sort of disappears from UConn at the end of an academic semester. I'm just speculating, and it's really none of our business unless AEH wants it to be, but this sounds like some sort of academic or family issue.

As to playing benchers, it's almost ridiculous to criticize Geno on any coaching subject given his prodigious record. However, there is a view that some players build confidence much better when relied upon in actual games rather than in practice, and even more so when they are relied upon in competitive money minutes. Assuming this approach might work, why not take the risk of losing some unimportant AAC or OOC games in order to give these benchers substantial and real minutes? Just a thought.

Another thought I can't resist is that Geno wants to give a lot of minutes to his top six players because he wants all of them to have sufficiently good stats to remain in contention for AA and other post-season awards. I have no idea whether that's actually in his mind, but I think it's a very rational approach if it is. Rational not only for his current star players' careers, but also for the ambitious high school stars he wants to continue attracting.
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I agree w/ Geno- he basically said this is a team of pussies. Given the experience they had in the FF last year, such an observation is very disappointing. They have yet to have the 2002 team's epiphany.

It's times like this i long for the balls of the teams of lobo, elliott and rizzotti, et al, which would put your head in a vice and squeeze until there was no more yellow matter custard to drip from your dead eye.

"But those were different times..."


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ArtBest23 wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
I can't figure out who's whining or why -- Geno, his players or fans. UConn won by 36 points and shot 50% against what I thought was the best coached defense they've faced all year, albeit a defense composed of mediocre players who had little offensive capability aside from Wright and Saunders.

UConn's bench is doomed if they can't get into AAC games. Camara and Gordon didn't play at all, and I still haven't seen an answer to WHERE IS ANDRA ESPINOZA-HUNTER. Is she on the team, in school, what?

Geno said after the game, in answer to why he doesn't play bench players, something to the effect that, "if you saw how they play in practice, how tentative they are to make plays, you'd wonder why they even got basketball scholarships." Well . . . who recruited and gave scholarships to them, instead of someone else?


according to what I read Geno said something to the effect of we'll know in the next few days if she's still on the team. He said it's doubtful because she's not there.

He also said the end of the bench players can't string together three good days of practice and they won't play more until they do.


I have no problem with the hard work and dedication he demands, but if I was a recruit or player I'm not sure I'd put up with much of being publicly trashed. My reaction would likely be don't need it, can go lots of other places without the abuse, take your scholarship and shove it.

If McCallie said this about any of her players people here would be in an uproar.


I'd have more of a problem if he singled out people in his statement rather than "the bench players" in general. If he said Gordon doesn't hustle or something, that to me is more inappropriate.

I think part of the problem is the prodigious amount of coverage in the area, where some of the people have no better questions than to ask why players didn't play, not just focusing on those that do play and what happened in the game.

I guess I'd rather him be honest if he has to get questions like that instead of him singing their praises and not playing them.


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cthskzfn wrote:
I agree w/ Geno- he basically said this is a team of pussies. Given the experience they had in the FF last year, such an observation is very disappointing. They have yet to have the 2002 team's epiphany.

It's times like this i long for the balls of the teams of lobo, elliott and rizzotti, et al, which would put your head in a vice and squeeze until there was no more yellow matter custard to drip from your dead eye.

"But those were different times..."


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Thank you! Laughing

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PostPosted: 01/10/18 4:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I can't figure out who's whining or why -- Geno, his players or fans. UConn won by 36 points and shot 50% against what I thought was the best coached defense they've faced all year, albeit a defense composed of mediocre players who had little offensive capability aside from Wright and Saunders.

UConn's bench is doomed if they can't get into AAC games. Camara and Gordon didn't play at all, and I still haven't seen an answer to WHERE IS ANDRA ESPINOZA-HUNTER. Is she on the team, in school, what?

Geno said after the game, in answer to why he doesn't play bench players, something to the effect that, "if you saw how they play in practice, how tentative they are to make plays, you'd wonder why they even got basketball scholarships." Well . . . who recruited and gave scholarships to them, instead of someone else?


according to what I read Geno said something to the effect of we'll know in the next few days if she's still on the team. He said it's doubtful because she's not there.

He also said the end of the bench players can't string together three good days of practice and they won't play more until they do.


I have no problem with the hard work and dedication he demands, but if I was a recruit or player I'm not sure I'd put up with much of being publicly trashed. My reaction would likely be don't need it, can go lots of other places without the abuse, take your scholarship and shove it.

If McCallie said this about any of her players people here would be in an uproar.


I'd have more of a problem if he singled out people in his statement rather than "the bench players" in general. If he said Gordon doesn't hustle or something, that to me is more inappropriate.

I think part of the problem is the prodigious amount of coverage in the area, where some of the people have no better questions than to ask why players didn't play, not just focusing on those that do play and what happened in the game.

I guess I'd rather him be honest if he has to get questions like that instead of him singing their praises and not playing them.


I get what you're saying, David, but he didn't just say they needed to improve more to get time on the court. He tacked on "if you saw how they play in practice, how tentative they are to make plays, you'd wonder why they even got basketball scholarships." That seems a bit insulting, yes? I know he's trying to motivate them, but why say that to the press? Many people would keep that type of comment in house.


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PostPosted: 01/10/18 4:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I guess I'd rather him be honest if he has to get questions like that instead of him singing their praises and not playing them.


I don't doubt it was a dumb question. But I don't think "you'd wonder why they even got basketball scholarships." is being honest, it's being snide and cheap and personal. It's trying to get a laugh from the sycophants in the captive press corps at the expense of those players. He's expecting a reaction of " oh, that's just Geno being Geno, isn't he cute.". "Honest" would be something like "they're not playing because they're having trouble picking up our defense. Most high school players come in not knowing how to play defense and some pick it up faster than others. When they get better with the defense, then they'll play."

Someone should have followed up with "you're the one who gave them scholarships; if you don't know why, who does?"

But as I said, if McCallie (or anyone else for that matter) took a cheap shot like that at their players, this board would be screaming bloody murder.


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Some people, such as SNY UConn women's basketball pre/postgame studio host Gary Apple, wonder aloud what is the concern- UConn's win over UCF last night dovetails nicely with their season avg.s of MoV, shooting %, TO/As ratio, etc etc.; a typical UConn performance.



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PostPosted: 01/10/18 5:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Art, Choke, you both make a really good point.

That isn't necessary. I guess that's his schtick to motivate he thinks.

Certainly isn't the first cringeworthy thing he's said, and won't be the last unfortunately.

Part of the reason I haven't been covering them this season.


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