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ClayK



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PostPosted: 01/01/18 1:56 pm    ::: Wooden midseason top 25 Reply Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 01/01/18 8:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

As a starting point, here is the original preseason top 30.

http://www.woodenaward.com/john_r_wooden_award_presented_by_wendy_s_announces_2017_18_preseason_top_30

I would add:

Loryn Goodwin Oklahoma St
Teiara McCowan Mississippi St
Megan Gustafson Iowa

I'd drop

Allazia Blockton
Mercedes Russell
Azura Stevens
Megan William
Gabby Williams


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PostPosted: 01/01/18 8:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

calbearman76 wrote:
As a starting point, here is the original preseason top 30.

http://www.woodenaward.com/john_r_wooden_award_presented_by_wendy_s_announces_2017_18_preseason_top_30

I would add:

Loryn Goodwin Oklahoma St
Teiara McCowan Mississippi St
Megan Gustafson Iowa

I'd drop

Allazia Blockton
Mercedes Russell
Azura Stevens
Megan William
Gabby Williams



I'll agree with that, but...

Drop
Tynice Martin who was supposed to return from her foot surgery in Nov but has yet to play in a single game for WVU.

Add
Chennedy Carter who seems on track for NFOY.


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PostPosted: 01/01/18 9:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
calbearman76 wrote:
As a starting point, here is the original preseason top 30.

http://www.woodenaward.com/john_r_wooden_award_presented_by_wendy_s_announces_2017_18_preseason_top_30

I would add:

Loryn Goodwin Oklahoma St
Teiara McCowan Mississippi St
Megan Gustafson Iowa

I'd drop

Allazia Blockton
Mercedes Russell
Azura Stevens
Megan William
Gabby Williams



I'll agree with that, but...

Drop
Tynice Martin who was supposed to return from her foot surgery in Nov but has yet to play in a single game for WVU.

Add
Chennedy Carter who seems on track for NFOY.


Agree with dropping Tynice and adding Carter. What about dropping Morgan Williams from Miss St.?

Williams: 6.7 ppg, 4.6 assists/g, 1.7 reb/g, 0.9 steals/g, 1.1 turnovers/g, 38% FG%, 13 3FG%, 85% FT

Thinking about it, that's probably who calbearman meant by Megan Williams.


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PostPosted: 01/01/18 9:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ariel Atkins
Jordin Canada
Chennedy Carter
Kaila Charles
Napheesa Collier
Sophie Cunningham
Lexie Brown
Asia Durr
Marie Gulich
Megan Gustafson
Sabrina Ionescu
Brooke McCarty
Teaira McCowan
Kelsey Mitchell
Teana Muldrow
Jamie Nared
Kia Nurse
Arike Ogunbowale
Mercedes Russell
Katie Lou Samuelson
Jessica Shepard
Shakayla Thomas
Victoria Viviens
A'ja Wilson
Gabby Williams

Also Considered: Kristine Anigwe, Crystal Dangerfield, Katelynn Flaherty, Loryn Goodwin, Ruthy Hebard, Kitija Laksa, Brittany McPhee, Azura Stevens, Jackie Young


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PostPosted: 01/01/18 9:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd add Gustafson, McCowan and Kitija Laksa, the top 3pt maker and 8th best PPG scorer in D1.

That means dropping eight:

Blockton
Cunningham
Greenwell
Hebard
Martin
McCarty
Stevens
Morgan William
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PostPosted: 01/01/18 9:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

calbearman76 wrote:
As a starting point, here is the original preseason top 30.

http://www.woodenaward.com/john_r_wooden_award_presented_by_wendy_s_announces_2017_18_preseason_top_30

I would add:

Loryn Goodwin Oklahoma St
Teiara McCowan Mississippi St
Megan Gustafson Iowa

I'd drop

Allazia Blockton
Mercedes Russell
Azura Stevens
Megan William
Gabby Williams


Not sure I agree with dropping Azura Stevens and Mercedes Russell.

Agree with additions plus Chennedy Carter.



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PostPosted: 01/01/18 9:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I forgot about Carter. She should be there.


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PostPosted: 01/01/18 10:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tyler Scaife should be on this list


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PostPosted: 01/02/18 9:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I can only assume that people who don't want to add Loryn Goodwin to this list haven't seen her play.
21.9 ppg, FG% 46.8%, 6.5 rpg, 5.3 apg, 4.2 steals pg, A/TO 2.9


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PostPosted: 01/02/18 9:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
I can only assume that people who don't want to add Loryn Goodwin to this list haven't seen her play.
21.9 ppg, FG% 46.8%, 6.5 rpg, 5.3 apg, 4.2 steals pg, A/TO 2.9

I've seen her play (UCLA game). She's all that.


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PostPosted: 01/02/18 4:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Clay, when does the official list come out?


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PostPosted: 01/02/18 7:50 pm    ::: Threshold stat line/impact on game/RPI/Team rank? Reply Reply with quote

I'm not a statistician or data scientist but I cannot determine any viable algorithm for evaluating this list or AA's.

Sometimes the numbers are clear and at other times things seem to be subjective.

Thoughts anyone?


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PostPosted: 01/03/18 11:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The ballots are due today, so presumably soon ...



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PostPosted: 01/11/18 3:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

We collectively agreed with most of the new list, but jeez, still no love for Loryn Goodwin?

http://www.woodenaward.com/john_r_wooden_award_presented_by_wendy_s_announces_2017_18_women_s_midseason_top_25

Kristine Anigwe California
Ariel Atkins Texas
Monique Billings UCLA
Kalani Brown Baylor
Lexie Brown Duke
Jordin Canada UCLA
Chennedy Carter Texas A&M
Napheesa Collier Connecticut
Sophie Cunningham Missouri
Asia Durr Louisville
Katelynn Flaherty Michigan
Megan Gustafson Iowa
Sabrina Ionescu Oregon
Brooke McCarty Texas
Teaira McCowan Mississippi State
Kelsey Mitchell Ohio State
Jaime Nared Tennessee
Kia Nurse Connecticut
Arike Ogunbowale Notre Dame
Mercedes Russell Tennessee
Katie Lou Samuelson Connecticut
Shakayla Thomas Florida State
Victoria Vivians Mississippi State
Gabby Williams Connecticut
Aja Wilson South Carolina


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PostPosted: 01/11/18 4:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
We collectively agreed with most of the new list, but jeez, still no love for Loryn Goodwin?


I think Loryn has moved around so much that the voters didn't know which college to associate with her, so they just chose a less mobile option.


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PostPosted: 01/11/18 5:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Reasonable list but 92% irrelevant. The winner still will be a senior, either A'ja Wilson or Kelsey Mitchell.

I'd say Gabby Williams is out of it as of now, surpassed by Lexie Brown, McCowan and Vivians among seniors.
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PostPosted: 01/13/18 10:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

No Scaife? Shocked


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