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PostPosted: 02/02/18 12:17 pm    ::: Whalen retiring....from USA Basketball. Reply Reply with quote

https://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2018/02/wnt-feb-camp-roster-1.aspx

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“I’ve cherished all of my time with USA Basketball since I was 20,” said Whalen. “This was a very tough decision, but I feel like it’s time in my career to step aside and give another young player the opportunity.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 12:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bless her. respect.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 12:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

And at the same time, they announce Tiffany Mitchell added to the Team USA pool.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 12:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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And at the same time, they announce Tiffany Mitchell added to the Team USA pool.


The Dawn Effect has begun .



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 12:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Good, it's about time for a new PG to be integrated for USA.


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PostPosted: 02/02/18 1:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Now Bird needs to also step aside.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 1:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
Now Bird needs to also step aside.


We need a veteran PG to show the new kids the ropes of international play. Otherwise they might run crying off the court when they get pressured by mighty Uruguay.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 1:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Diggins must be doing back flips today.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 1:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
justintyme wrote:
Now Bird needs to also step aside.


We need a veteran PG to show the new kids the ropes of international play. Otherwise they might run crying off the court when they get pressured by mighty Uruguay.

Don't be silly. Uruguay didn't qualify for the Worlds.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 1:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
Now Bird needs to also step aside.


along with Mone and DT.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 1:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
justintyme wrote:
Now Bird needs to also step aside.


along with Mone and DT.


Agreed .



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 2:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Different people have different needs, which shouldn’t be established by anyone other than themselves.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 2:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
justintyme wrote:
Now Bird needs to also step aside.


along with Mone and DT.


I wouldn't be surprised by either.


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PostPosted: 02/02/18 3:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Different people have different needs, which shouldn’t be established by anyone other than themselves.


Since USA basketball doesn't have the balls to let the aged move on gracefully, it's left to the players to do the right thing. Whalen did the right thing.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 3:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
Different people have different needs, which shouldn’t be established by anyone other than themselves.


Since USA basketball doesn't have the balls to let the aged move on gracefully, it's left to the players to do the right thing. Whalen did the right thing.


Tbh if Bird and Taurasi would retire right now aswell and this team would be lead by Diggins and Gray then i could see them having a 2006 slipup in the semi's or finals



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 3:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michelle89 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
Different people have different needs, which shouldn’t be established by anyone other than themselves.


Since USA basketball doesn't have the balls to let the aged move on gracefully, it's left to the players to do the right thing. Whalen did the right thing.


Tbh if Bird and Taurasi would retire right now aswell and this lead would be lead by Diggins and Gray then i could see them having a 2006 slipup in the semi's or finals


Whalen could have played in Worlds, but she couldn’t see herself making it to the 2020 Olympics. So she figured she’d give a newer player the opportunity in the less important Worlds so they’d be better prepared for 2020.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 8:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michelle89 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
Different people have different needs, which shouldn’t be established by anyone other than themselves.


Since USA basketball doesn't have the balls to let the aged move on gracefully, it's left to the players to do the right thing. Whalen did the right thing.


Tbh if Bird and Taurasi would retire right now aswell and this team would be lead by Diggins and Gray then i could see them having a 2006 slipup in the semi's or finals

There are a ton of players to "lead" the team that would not require newbies to assume the role.

Losing DT, Bird, and Augustus for younger, better players would only make the team less likely to have a "slipup".



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 10:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd be fine with Bird on the 2018 team, but either or both of Taurasi & Augustus need to also retire from team USA.



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PostPosted: 02/03/18 1:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

They can retire when they want to.

No one pushed Dawn to retire when she clearly should have.



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PostPosted: 02/03/18 3:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
Different people have different needs, which shouldn’t be established by anyone other than themselves.


Since USA basketball doesn't have the balls to let the aged move on gracefully, it's left to the players to do the right thing. Whalen did the right thing.


Tbh if Bird and Taurasi would retire right now aswell and this team would be lead by Diggins and Gray then i could see them having a 2006 slipup in the semi's or finals

There are a ton of players to "lead" the team that would not require newbies to assume the role.

Losing DT, Bird, and Augustus for younger, better players would only make the team less likely to have a "slipup".


You underestimate the role of true PG's and how their leadership can effect a team. Who is going to lead this team? Maya? Charles?



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PostPosted: 02/03/18 6:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michelle89 wrote:
justintyme wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
Different people have different needs, which shouldn’t be established by anyone other than themselves.


Since USA basketball doesn't have the balls to let the aged move on gracefully, it's left to the players to do the right thing. Whalen did the right thing.


Tbh if Bird and Taurasi would retire right now aswell and this team would be lead by Diggins and Gray then i could see them having a 2006 slipup in the semi's or finals

There are a ton of players to "lead" the team that would not require newbies to assume the role.

Losing DT, Bird, and Augustus for younger, better players would only make the team less likely to have a "slipup".


You underestimate the role of true PG's and how their leadership can effect a team. Who is going to lead this team? Maya? Charles?


Why couldn't Maya? She's a leader.


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PostPosted: 02/03/18 7:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michelle89 wrote:
You underestimate the role of true PG's and how their leadership can effect a team. Who is going to lead this team? Maya? Charles?


You underestimate the leadership ability of some of the younger PGs



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PostPosted: 02/03/18 7:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd be happy with this line-up for 2018:

PG: Bird/Diggins/CGray
SG: Taurasi/Sims or Loyd
SF: Moore/Delle Donne
PF: Charles/NOgwumike/Stewart
C: Fowles/Griner



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pilight wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
You underestimate the role of true PG's and how their leadership can effect a team. Who is going to lead this team? Maya? Charles?


You underestimate the leadership ability of some of the younger PGs


I am? Sims and Gray are not even (the vocal) leaders of their own teams let alone lead a team full of players who are better then them and have more weight on the team and league. Only player that has experience of leading her team is Diggins and this would be her first time with USA in a big tournament and i first have to see how the team will respond to her before thinking that all goes well



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Michelle89 wrote:
pilight wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
You underestimate the role of true PG's and how their leadership can effect a team. Who is going to lead this team? Maya? Charles?


You underestimate the leadership ability of some of the younger PGs


I am? Sims and Gray are not even (the vocal) leaders of their own teams let alone lead a team full of players who are better then them and have more weight on the team and league. Only player that has experience of leading her team is Diggins and this would be her first time with USA in a big tournament and i first have to see how the team will respond to her before thinking that all goes well

The PG needs to be an on the floor leader as far as keeping play moving smoothly, but there is no need for them to be the "vocal leader" of the team as long as another player fills that role. And with players like Nneka and Maya on the team, it will be well served in that area.

Both Gray and Diggens are more than capable of being a floor general.



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