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PostPosted: 12/14/17 6:35 pm    ::: 2018 Team USA college players Reply Reply with quote

This is being discussed more generally in the WNBA forum, but it's interesting that there are five current college players in the pool of 29 players:

Napheesa Collier - UConn
Katie Lou Samuelson - UConn
A'ja Wilson - S. Carolina
Kelsey Mitchell - tOSU
Asia Durr - L'ville

Given that Dawn Staley is now the head coach, that may give Wilson the best chance. Not sure any have a high chance.

https://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2017/12/wnt-pool-announced.aspx
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PostPosted: 12/14/17 6:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Eventually they are going to need them. However, I see Taurasi as the player who has really slipped of late. The bigs in the paint are plentiful so don't see an opening as early.


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PostPosted: 12/14/17 6:59 pm    ::: Re: 2018 Team USA college players Reply Reply with quote

GlennMacGrady wrote:
This is being discussed more generally in the WNBA forum, but it's interesting that there are five current college players in the pool of 29 players:

Napheesa Collier - UConn
Katie Lou Samuelson - UConn
A'ja Wilson - S. Carolina
Kelsey Mitchell - tOSU
Asia Durr - L'ville

Given that Dawn Staley is now the head coach, that may give Wilson the best chance. Not sure any have a high chance.

https://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2017/12/wnt-pool-announced.aspx


I just hope that if Wilson makes the team for '18 or '20 or whenver the next Olympics is that I don't have to read the endless sour grapes bitterness about how "she only made the team because of Dawn".


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PostPosted: 12/14/17 6:59 pm    ::: Re: 2018 Team USA college players Reply Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12/14/17 7:37 pm    ::: Re: 2018 Team USA college players Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
This is being discussed more generally in the WNBA forum, but it's interesting that there are five current college players in the pool of 29 players:

Napheesa Collier - UConn
Katie Lou Samuelson - UConn
A'ja Wilson - S. Carolina
Kelsey Mitchell - tOSU
Asia Durr - L'ville

Given that Dawn Staley is now the head coach, that may give Wilson the best chance. Not sure any have a high chance.

https://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2017/12/wnt-pool-announced.aspx


I just hope that if Wilson makes the team for '18 or '20 or whenver the next Olympics is that I don't have to read the endless sour grapes bitterness about how "she only made the team because of Dawn".


Hopefully we see an influx of Gamecocks on team usa in the future like the other school.



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PostPosted: 12/14/17 8:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Jamie Nared.


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PostPosted: 12/14/17 9:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Jamie Nared.


Really? She should be added before any other WNBA or college player? Is that what you are suggesting with your post?


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PostPosted: 12/14/17 11:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Thanks Geno for no Candace Parker


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PostPosted: 12/14/17 11:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Jlcarter wrote:
Jamie Nared.


Really? She should be added before any other WNBA or college player? Is that what you are suggesting with your post?

I was saying she is a college player. That USA team should definitely consider. I think she should get a tryout.


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PostPosted: 12/14/17 11:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Jlcarter wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Jlcarter wrote:
Jamie Nared.


Really? She should be added before any other WNBA or college player? Is that what you are suggesting with your post?

I was saying she is a college player. That USA team should definitely consider. I think she should get a tryout.


She has a team USA profile
https://www.usab.com/basketball/players/womens/n/nared-jaime.aspx



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PostPosted: 12/15/17 2:21 am    ::: Re: 2018 Team USA college players Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:


Hopefully we see an influx of Gamecocks on team usa in the future like the other school.



Absolutely. Bird and Taurasi sent packing and replaced by Kaela Davis and Alisha Gray.


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PostPosted: 12/15/17 12:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA the joys of homerism.


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PostPosted: 12/15/17 3:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ladyvol777 wrote:
Thanks Geno for no Candace Parker


Geno was the ventriliquist that said "no thank you" when asked to camp this summer, which she ended up not being able to go to, but she said no.


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PostPosted: 12/15/17 6:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Ladyvol777 wrote:
Thanks Geno for no Candace Parker


Geno was the ventriliquist that said "no thank you" when asked to camp this summer, which she ended up not being able to go to, but she said no.


After she got shat on, what did you expect her to do?



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PostPosted: 12/15/17 10:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Can we keep the Parker griping to the thread in the WNBA forum, please?



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PostPosted: 12/16/17 12:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nixtreefan wrote:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA the joys of homerism.


Unless LouConn makes the team right?
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PostPosted: 12/16/17 12:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well I know that would make you miserable BAHAHAHAHAHA.

See my post under WNBA Sims was my lock over your choices but then then you just like southerners who don't play any defense.


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PostPosted: 12/16/17 2:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nixtreefan wrote:
Well I know that would make you miserable BAHAHAHAHAHA.

See my post under WNBA Sims was my lock over your choices but then then you just like southerners who don't play any defense.


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PostPosted: 12/16/17 3:07 pm    ::: Re: 2018 Team USA college players Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:


Hopefully we see an influx of Gamecocks on team usa in the future like the other school.



Absolutely. Bird and Taurasi sent packing and replaced by Kaela Davis and Alisha Gray.



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PostPosted: 12/16/17 3:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Considering the Summer Olympics will be played in 2020, the odds are there will be players as yet named on the roster. Also considering Sue will be 40 by then and Diana 38, it is probable at least one, if not both, will not be on the roster.



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PostPosted: 12/16/17 3:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Considering the Summer Olympics will be played in 2020, the odds are there will be players as yet named on the roster. Also considering Sue will be 40 by then and Diana 38, it is probable at least one, if not both, will not be on the roster.


Not if you listen to Callan. If they can still dribble (the ball that is) they'll be on the team.

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PostPosted: 12/16/17 6:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

When the 2016 team was announced all the critics were harping on Parker's omission.

Now it seems that the topic is age and allowing others to have a turn. But back in 2016 many of those making those comments now had no problem with Catchings going for her 4th gold medal at 38.


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PostPosted: 12/16/17 7:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
When the 2016 team was announced all the critics were harping on Parker's omission.

Now it seems that the topic is age and allowing others to have a turn. But back in 2016 many of those making those comments now had no problem with Catchings going for her 4th gold medal at 38.


I posted about age with this back story, that on several occasions both Diana and Sue had hinted in very strong terms that with Geno gone that 2016 was more than likely their last rodeo. Diana also mentioned several times as did Sue that their careers were in their twilight so using the term probable in context with their age is a just follow up to their own thoughts.



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PostPosted: 12/16/17 10:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Now it seems that the topic is age and allowing others to have a turn. But back in 2016 many of those making those comments now had no problem with Catchings going for her 4th gold medal at 38.


I said at that time she should voluntarily step down, but these girls have huge egos and think they're the best regardless of age. If Catch wouldn't step down, nobody will. Which is why we need a committee and/or chairwoman with enough balls to make changes.



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PostPosted: 12/17/17 12:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://womenshoopsworld.com/2017/12/14/there-should-be-term-limits-in-usa-basketball-national-team-pool/

I agree with this. Taurasi and Bird and some of the others are getting up there, time for some new blood.



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PostPosted: 12/17/17 12:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If there are term limits, it should be imposed by FIBA on all countries, not just the USA on itself. That makes no sense. If a player wants Taurasi or Bird's spot on the team, kick their butt in camp. Make it so there's no question about who should get the spot. That doesn't seem to be happening. There is no clear separation being made by the younger players. The only rationale is....well it's not fair. Crying or Very sad


I'm surprised such a progressive group would encourage age discrimination AND sex discrimination if you're not talking about imposing the same limits on the men's side. Can you imagine the lawsuits? Can we just set this poorly conceived idea aside once and for all?



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PostPosted: 12/17/17 12:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

you could call it reverse age discrimination. The point is that some of the younger players are clearly as good as or better than the oldies, but the oldies get the call regardless...just because they've been there before.



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PostPosted: 12/17/17 1:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I liked the old system when the Olympics was limited to amateurs. Every four years the U.S. men's basketball team would be composed of new crop of college players with maybe an occasional company team player. The greatest of all is still the 1960 team.

Of course, other countries kept sending the same players because they didn't play professional ball, just club ball. Who can ever forget the most prolific scorer in basketball world history, including five Olympics, Oscar Schmidt.

In today's more monetized, professionalized, televised, profitized and clickbaiticized Olympics, term limits would only be fair if every country adopted them.

It does seem historically momentous that there's not one Tennessee alum even in the Olympic pool. Has there ever been an Olympics without a Lady Vol on the team?

And while they're not college students anymore, why would Plum be in the pool over Jefferson? Injury?

Finally, where's the unstoppable Chennedy Carter?
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PostPosted: 12/17/17 1:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GlennMacGrady wrote:
Of course, other countries kept sending the same players because they didn't play professional ball, just club ball. Who can ever forget the most prolific scorer in basketball world history, including five Olympics, Oscar Schmidt.


They were being paid to play club ball. It was professional to everyone except the IOC.



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PostPosted: 12/17/17 2:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
Well I know that would make you miserable BAHAHAHAHAHA.

See my post under WNBA Sims was my lock over your choices but then then you just like southerners who don't play any defense.


How old are you? Did your folks let you mix liquor with the Eggnog again?


Old enough to see through your bullcrap Laughing But I will take eggnog with my liquor any time.




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PostPosted: 12/17/17 2:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If the DT word is true then maybe they move her to the bench as lead cheerleader.


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PostPosted: 12/17/17 2:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd be more inclined to accept the argument that older players step aside if the same people had been saying it about then 38 year old (and in her 4th Olympics) Tamika Catchings. As it is I see most of it as simply thinly disguised "I'm sick of seeing all the UConn players" bias.

I remember when Al Oerter and Edwin Moses were praised for their continued high level of performance over a long period. But then neither attended UConn. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 12/18/17 1:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I'd be more inclined to accept the argument that older players step aside if the same people had been saying it about then 38 year old (and in her 4th Olympics) Tamika Catchings. As it is I see most of it as simply thinly disguised "I'm sick of seeing all the UConn players" bias.

I remember when Al Oerter and Edwin Moses were praised for their continued high level of performance over a long period. But then neither attended UConn. Rolling Eyes


I really don't think it is this anti-UConn thingie. I mean the chances are they will be replaced by more UConn players anyway. I actually think Bird, Whalen, DT, and Seimone at least should be done...so that's 2 UConn'ers and 2 nons. And the chances are that two of the replacements could well be more Huskys. And as I said before, I lobbied that Catch should call it quits before the last Olys as well. So at least speaking for myself, it doesn't have to do with what school they came from. I think UConn consistently gets the top players and that Geno consistently makes them better during their time in Storrs so it's logical that a lot of them end up on the national team. But when they're done, they should be done. It was ridiculous for instance to have Swin Cash and Asia Jones on the team when they were added - that was really all about being from UConn and not about being the best players in the country. JMO.



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PostPosted: 12/18/17 2:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
linkster wrote:
I'd be more inclined to accept the argument that older players step aside if the same people had been saying it about then 38 year old (and in her 4th Olympics) Tamika Catchings. As it is I see most of it as simply thinly disguised "I'm sick of seeing all the UConn players" bias.

I remember when Al Oerter and Edwin Moses were praised for their continued high level of performance over a long period. But then neither attended UConn. Rolling Eyes


I really don't think it is this anti-UConn thingie. I mean the chances are they will be replaced by more UConn players anyway. I actually think Bird, Whalen, DT, and Seimone at least should be done...so that's 2 UConn'ers and 2 nons. And the chances are that two of the replacements could well be more Huskys. And as I said before, I lobbied that Catch should call it quits before the last Olys as well. So at least speaking for myself, it doesn't have to do with what school they came from. I think UConn consistently gets the top players and that Geno consistently makes them better during their time in Storrs so it's logical that a lot of them end up on the national team. But when they're done, they should be done. It was ridiculous for instance to have Swin Cash and Asia Jones on the team when they were added - that was really all about being from UConn and not about being the best players in the country. JMO.


My comment about anti-UConn bias was directed at the totality of the posts and not anyone in particular. I have no problem with dropping players who aren't good enough. My problem is with the idea that players who may still be the best choices based on talent, experience and the ability to play within the coach's concept of team play should step aside to give others a chance. That POV is more anti-UConn BS than anything else. Those same people wanted Parker, in her 3rd Olympics instead of Stewart in her first when none of them (not you) suggested that Catchings should be the one to be dropped. And we all know who that group was.

As far as Cash and Jones & the 2016 team, I do think that they were put on the team in part because of their being former UConners. But not because they were "Geno's darlings" as some would have us believe, but because they knew Geno's style of play and more importantly, knew his style of practice. Geno has never been one to play someone simply because he liked them. They were on the team to be practice players and were willing to accept the fact that they weren't going to get much if any actual playing time in the games. For all the public statements about the honor of being in the Olympics, there are a lot of players who would sulk in that sort of role.


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