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PostPosted: 04/11/18 1:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Look at what I was responding to. The names are from an article. I’m just ranking them. Whalen and Dawkins are definitely not on my wishlist.



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PostPosted: 04/11/18 2:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
justintyme wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Shades wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Shades wrote:
adamj95 wrote:
http://www.startribune.com/marlene-stollings-leaving-gophers-basketball-for-texas-tech-job/479181053/

Names to watch: Lindsay Whalen, Aaron Johnston, Niele Ivey, and Nikki Lowry-Dawkins.


1. Ivey (Might help Gophers score important in-state recruit Bueckers)
2. Johnston (Recruits Minnesota better than Minnesota does)
3. Whalen (No coaching experience. Start as an assistant somewhere first. No indication that she even wants to coach)
4. Dawkins (Would be settling for the assistant. Wouldn’t reflect well on AD)


Is this for real, or is this just a wish list? I'm thinking the latter.


Is what for real, my opinion on these coaching prospects? Yes, it’s for real.


Then it's YOUR wish list and not the university's list. Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm not understanding your point here. These are some of the potential coaches the Gophers are considering and have been linked to. Shades just put out his opinion on each of them, ranking them in his preferred order. In other words it is both the University's list, AND his ranking of them. Not sure why it was confusing.


My question was whether it was the UNIVERSITY had actually put forth the names, whether they'd been gleaned from a message board similar to the Boneyard or The Summitt, or whether he had some actual inside info.

The original article reported those names in association with the University. It was right there, which is why your question was confusing.



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PostPosted: 04/11/18 6:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
justintyme wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Shades wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Shades wrote:
adamj95 wrote:
http://www.startribune.com/marlene-stollings-leaving-gophers-basketball-for-texas-tech-job/479181053/

Names to watch: Lindsay Whalen, Aaron Johnston, Niele Ivey, and Nikki Lowry-Dawkins.


1. Ivey (Might help Gophers score important in-state recruit Bueckers)
2. Johnston (Recruits Minnesota better than Minnesota does)
3. Whalen (No coaching experience. Start as an assistant somewhere first. No indication that she even wants to coach)
4. Dawkins (Would be settling for the assistant. Wouldn’t reflect well on AD)


Is this for real, or is this just a wish list? I'm thinking the latter.


Is what for real, my opinion on these coaching prospects? Yes, it’s for real.


Then it's YOUR wish list and not the university's list. Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm not understanding your point here. These are some of the potential coaches the Gophers are considering and have been linked to. Shades just put out his opinion on each of them, ranking them in his preferred order. In other words it is both the University's list, AND his ranking of them. Not sure why it was confusing.


My question was whether it was the UNIVERSITY had actually put forth the names, whether they'd been gleaned from a message board similar to the Boneyard or The Summitt, or whether he had some actual inside info.

The original article reported those names in association with the University. It was right there, which is why your question was confusing.


Begging your pardon, but I didn't get that out of the article, even when I went back and re-read it. I give up. Not my school and I got no dog in this fight anyway.



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PostPosted: 04/11/18 6:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Jodi Kest retires at Akron

https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/university-of-akron-womens-basketball-zips-coach-jodi-kest-announces-retirement



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PostPosted: 04/11/18 7:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Megan Leuzinger, former Valpo AC, hired as HC at Evangel University

http://www.evangelathletics.com/sports/wbkb/2017-18/releases/20180411f1wy5b


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Lamar promotes Cameron Miles, DOBO to AC

http://www.lamarcardinals.com/news/2018/4/11/womens-basketball-miles-promoted-to-assistant-womens-hoops-coach.aspx


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 6:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Alecia Wilson to Pacific

http://www.goboxers.com/news/2018/4/11/general-alecia-wilson-named-head-womens-basketball-coach-at-pacific-university.aspx



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PostPosted: 04/12/18 8:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I didn't see this here...Stollings to Texas Tech. I know it's a better conference, but is this an upgrade for her?


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 8:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bucks4now wrote:
I didn't see this here...Stollings to Texas Tech. I know it's a better conference, but is this an upgrade for her?



Sorry, I didn't have the 5ht page of the thread and it was unmarked as watch.


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 9:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I didn't see this here...Stollings to Texas Tech. I know it's a better conference, but is this an upgrade for her?

No. Significant downgrade. The rumors I'm hearing are that the Gophers were ready to move on and encouraged her to consider other options that arose.



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PostPosted: 04/12/18 10:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Supposedly Amanda Butler will be named at Clemson


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Supposedly Amanda Butler will be named at Clemson


Anything that keeps her from doing color commentary is a good thing



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PostPosted: 04/12/18 10:39 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Supposedly Amanda Butler will be named at Clemson


I still think she's a good coach. Glad she's getting another opportunity so quickly after Florida.


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joetro wrote:
Supposedly Amanda Butler will be named at Clemson


I still think she's a good coach. Glad she's getting another opportunity so quickly after Florida.


She's a decent coach, but right now Clemson is a real sink. There was a time when they were fairly decent (in the 90s) and even made the NCAA, but the ACC is godawfully competitive these days, much worse than the SEC.



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PostPosted: 04/12/18 12:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sam Houston State hires Ravon Justice from Prairie View A&M

http://www.gobearkats.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=93027&SPID=11359&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211710608&DB_OEM_ID=19900


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Longwood hired Navy AC Rebecca Tillett as HC

http://www.longwoodlancers.com/news/2018/4/12/navy-associate-rebecca-tillett-named-new-womens-basketball-coach.aspx


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 1:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
PRballer wrote:
joetro wrote:
Supposedly Amanda Butler will be named at Clemson


I still think she's a good coach. Glad she's getting another opportunity so quickly after Florida.


She's a decent coach, but right now Clemson is a real sink. There was a time when they were fairly decent (in the 90s) and even made the NCAA, but the ACC is godawfully competitive these days, much worse than the SEC.


Yep, Jim Davis had talented, athletic and DEEP teams when they were winning the ACC and made the Sweet 16 in the 90s. They were actually fun to watch and would average 3,000 fans per game in Littlejohn, with numbers rising with Virginia, UNC and Duke home games. He recruited the Carolinas and George very well. Itoro Umoh and Erin Batth stood out in that era.

Then Davis "retired" (sorta) and along with the rise of Georgia Tech's recruiting under Berenato and then moreso Joseph and then FSU rising under Semrau, they started losing out to other ACC programs on the recruiting trail.

And then we all know what happened down the road when the feisty lady from Philadelphia showed up at Columbia in 2008.

Tough sink for Clemson for sure, but Butler is an improvement I think.


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Lindsay Whalen to Minnesota

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/041218aaa.html



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PostPosted: 04/12/18 3:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Lindsay Whalen to Minnesota

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/041218aaa.html



LMAO!


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Shades wrote:
Look at what I was responding to. The names are from an article. I’m just ranking them. Whalen and Dawkins are definitely not on my wishlist.


Shocked

Whalen will probably be fine eventually, right? She has a lot to learn about the recruiting and administrative side...and then she's still going to play in the WNBA, so forget about the summer evaluation period...


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 3:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mzonefan wrote:
Shades wrote:
Look at what I was responding to. The names are from an article. I’m just ranking them. Whalen and Dawkins are definitely not on my wishlist.


Shocked

Whalen will probably be fine eventually, right? She has a lot to learn about the recruiting and administrative side...and then she's still going to play in the WNBA, so forget about the summer evaluation period...

Well, she brings instant credibility and prestige to the program, but she will have a learning curve. She has had one of the best coaches of all time mentoring her for the past few years, so that will help on the coaching side. The question will be on the recruiting side.



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I think she will be fine recruiting wise if she can get some good assistant coaches to help her in the transition. Her name will instantly get players who want to be coached by her.



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PostPosted: 04/12/18 3:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

As a Gopher / Lynx fan, I'm excited about the Whalen hire! Yeah, she'll have a lot to learn, but I can't picture anyone getting the fan base more excited than Whalen. Maybe minor... But I believe she was Borton's DOBO for a season or so, and has a little experience on the admin side. And she become co-owner (or something similar) in her former AAU club recently, which looks like she's somewhat connected with local talent. She'll probably need to divest from that now... Exciting stuff! I hope young talent like Pitts, Hubbard, and the others stay around to work with her.


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 3:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mzonefan wrote:
Shades wrote:
Look at what I was responding to. The names are from an article. I’m just ranking them. Whalen and Dawkins are definitely not on my wishlist.


Shocked

Whalen will probably be fine eventually, right? She has a lot to learn about the recruiting and administrative side...and then she's still going to play in the WNBA, so forget about the summer evaluation period...


I was hoping for someone that wouldn’t be an on the job trainee. This could be alright or it could be a disaster that would be hard to clean up. How do you fire a Gopher legend or how many years of rope do you give her? She’s probably a lot cheaper than Ivey, which I personally don’t care about.

If she can score Bueckers as a recruit (and I don’t think she will), it’d would make the hire a whole lot palatable for me.



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Cincinnati hires Semeka Randall as AC (was at Wright State)

https://gobearcats.com/news/2018/4/12/randall-added-to-womens-basketball-coaching-staff.aspx


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 4:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Lindsay Whalen to Minnesota

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/041218aaa.html


This seems like a spectacularly bad choice.


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 4:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
pilight wrote:
Lindsay Whalen to Minnesota

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/041218aaa.html


This seems like a spectacularly bad choice.

The more I sit with it, the more I like it.

Just the buzz it is getting around here and the excitement it is generating make it a solid choice. The inexperience gives me pause, but all the other intangibles are there in spades, and you can't argue with her pedigree and the coaches she has worked with.

I mean, it isn't like the Gophers will have some major topple if it doesn't work out. They are in a perfect position for a high-upside gamble.



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PostPosted: 04/12/18 4:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I am very excited about coach Whalen. I know she does not have head-coaching or even assistant coaching experience. However, she has the “it” factor that has been missing here in Minnesota for several years. She will bring excitement and energy to this program that is sorely needed. In addition, Lindsay has been getting a lot of coaching experience while on the Lynx. Especially when she was injured last summer, you could see her giving her input and helping the coaches. If she surrounds herself with the right assistant coaches, I think this is a perfect chance for the Gophers to see what she can do.


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Hoopsmom wrote:
I am very excited about coach Whalen. I know she does not have head-coaching or even assistant coaching experience. However, she has the “it” factor that has been missing here in Minnesota for several years. She will bring excitement and energy to this program that is sorely needed. In addition, Lindsay has been getting a lot of coaching experience while on the Lynx. Especially when she was injured last summer, you could see her giving her input and helping the coaches. If she surrounds herself with the right assistant coaches, I think this is a perfect chance for the Gophers to see what she can do.


I'm interested to see who she hires for her staff. Depending on who they are, it will help me decide how this move feels.


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Myron Metcalf from ESPN tweeted this a few days ago, and I think he has a very good point:

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How many people know more about basketball than Lindsay Whalen? How many know more about Gophers basketball? Who is a better leader? Who knows more about succeeding as a young player at the collegiate level? She's coached her teammates for 30 years. Offer her the job. Now.


Whalen probably wouldn't make sense for most major programs out there. But for the Gophers? For other schools in other states she is an intriguing future Hall of Famer who has a lot of basketball smarts. But in Minnesota, she is Lindsay Freaking Whalen. Imagine being a young Minnesota baller and having The Legend in your living room recruiting you. She gets to play with a stacked deck here.

Not to mention, how many season tickets do you think they just sold based on this announcement? Timing this hire with their new athletic village/training facilities...



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All of that is great, but can she recruit? That's job one, two, three and four in college basketball.



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oopsie, wrong board.



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All of that is great, but can she recruit? That's job one, two, three and four in college basketball.

She's Lindsay Whalen...

I don't know if it's possible to overstate what that means in Minnesota, and in recruiting Minnesota (and other regional) girls.

Regionally that is all that matters, her legend sells itself. Nationally, we will see. But being able to get the top local girls will put the Gophers ahead of the game for once.

Beyond that, she has a very magnetic personality. To have met her is to love her. With her pedigree on top of that and knowing exactly what the recruits are going through, she seems as good a bet as anyone and a better one than most for someone to take a chance on.



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Cincinnati hires Semeka Randall as AC (was at Wright State)

https://gobearcats.com/news/2018/4/12/randall-added-to-womens-basketball-coaching-staff.aspx


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Alecia Wilson is the new head coach at Pacific. https://t.co/Ww8bqVsFny



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If she can score Bueckers as a recruit (and I don’t think she will), it’d would make the hire a whole lot palatable for me.


http://www.startribune.com/hiring-of-lindsay-whalen-goes-beyond-public-relations/479598603/

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This is a great hire,” said Hopkins girls coach Brian Cosgriff, winner of six state championships. “It’s going to put Minnesota basketball back in prominence. You’re hiring a Hall of Fame player. She’s won at the WNBA level, she’s won at the college level, she’s an Olympian. How do you do better than that?”

Hopkins sophomore guard Paige Bueckers is one of the top players in the country. She is being recruited by every major program, including UConn. Bueckers has a signed Whalen jersey hanging in her room and a pair of Whalen’s game-used shoes that Whalen gave her a few years ago.

The Gophers had zero chance of signing Bueckers before Whalen’s announcement. Bueckers’ father, Bob, was asked if his daughter will look at the Gophers differently now.

“Absolutely,” he said.

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“I remember how exciting it was when Whalen was playing in the Barn and how it energized everybody — the city, the state, girls’ basketball,” Bob Bueckers said. “It was incredible.



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Lindsay Whalen to Minnesota

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/041218aaa.html


This seems like a spectacularly bad choice.


This smells like a Skippy Summitt hire.



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Steph White has found little to no success at Vandy...just because you are a great player and played on the professioal level does not mean you will be successful on the college level...

Whalen has NO experience coaching on a Division I level, let alone any level...she better hire REALLY good assistants who can take her hand and walk her through the coaching duties adn the realities of coaching at any level, let alone Division I in a major conference...

Most girls have no idea who she is as they most likely were not even born when she played at Minn or were infants...unless they are from Minn and not sure every girl in Minn knows who she is, unless their parents tell her.

AD's seem to be taking the easy way out thinking bringing back a past player will solve all the problems or bring their program back to glory...

Vandy was down when White took over, but they are not any better this year then last year...Whalen will be in the same boat!

If you want to be competitive in the Big 10 this might be a good hire...if your desire as the AD is to get back to national prominance and national championship, hiring someone who has never coached at any big time level seems to indicate, that is not Minn mission or desire.


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Amanda Butler is off to Clemson:

http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23140987


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Valparaiso has hired Ohio assistant Mary Evans to be head coach.

http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/news/2017-18/18170/mary-evans-hired-to-lead-valpo-womens-basketball-program/



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Steph White has found little to no success at Vandy...just because you are a great player and played on the professioal level does not mean you will be successful on the college level...

Whalen has NO experience coaching on a Division I level, let alone any level...she better hire REALLY good assistants who can take her hand and walk her through the coaching duties adn the realities of coaching at any level, let alone Division I in a major conference...

Most girls have no idea who she is as they most likely were not even born when she played at Minn or were infants...unless they are from Minn and not sure every girl in Minn knows who she is, unless their parents tell her.

AD's seem to be taking the easy way out thinking bringing back a past player will solve all the problems or bring their program back to glory...

Vandy was down when White took over, but they are not any better this year then last year...Whalen will be in the same boat!

If you want to be competitive in the Big 10 this might be a good hire...if your desire as the AD is to get back to national prominance and national championship, hiring someone who has never coached at any big time level seems to indicate, that is not Minn mission or desire.


As I don't live in Minnesota, I will take everyone's word that Whalen will automatically get 90% of the elite in-state talent. And since I don't live in Minnesota, how far will that group usually take a program?

But outside of Minnesota and maybe some contiguous states, Lindsay Whalen's appearance on the recruiting trail will be completely unremarkable, as there are a lot of coaches out there who have played and excelled in the WNBA, and that alone is not going to make anyone want to play for her. (And of course a significant number of elite players couldn't even tell you who won the WNBA title ...)

If Whalen can show more charm than she has exhibited during her career, then her success will help her, but Minnesota is far from a destination school and she is far from a household name. Again, maybe Minnesota kids will be enough to succeed in the Big 10, but this is a huge gamble, from my perspective.



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UCLA's Cori Close was announced as a coach for the Women's U18 Nationals, along with Jeff Walz and Natasha Adair. The Virginia message boards have said that it's rumored Close has interviewed for the head coaching job succeeding Boyle.

A very interesting couple of weeks for UCLA fans.


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PostPosted: 04/13/18 11:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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If Whalen can show more charm than she has exhibited during her career, then her success will help her, but Minnesota is far from a destination school and she is far from a household name. Again, maybe Minnesota kids will be enough to succeed in the Big 10, but this is a huge gamble, from my perspective.

I don't think anyone expects this hire to suddenly transform Minnesota into some national power. But, honestly, no matter who they hired this would have been the same. The goal is to get the coach that helps your program the most. And seeing the legs this hire has here in Minnesota, it has quickly silenced most of my concerns. I'm pretty much convinced that she was the best choice for this team at this point. What other hire would have hotten this amount of media attention, both locally (where it has been a huge story all over the local media, and will continue to be one) and nationally? That being said, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. But that would have been the same no matter who they hired. There was no "sure thing" out there. So why not aim big? It's really not a gamble when there is little downside. Even if she utterly flops, the program would just be right where it currently is.

And while within the region Minnesota's almost fanatical relationship with the concept of #OneOfUs (of which Whalen is the queen) will do much of her work for her, I agree completely that she will still have to struggle with the normal recruiting barriers on the outside. That all said, I get the feeling you must've never interviewed Whalen. A lack of charm is not how most people who have spent time with her would describe her. And there is a difference between having played in the WNBA--and even excelling in the WNBA--and being a sure-fire future Naismith Hall of Famer who is widely considered one of the two best women point guards of all time. It won't do all the recruiting work for her, but it sure as heck is going to open more doors and have her taken more seriously from the get-go than the other options available for the Gophers.



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Point guards usually make good coaches, IMNSHO, because they've been trained and have learned to see the whole floor, and they are the "floor generals" for their teams. However, this does not necessarily translate into being good HEAD coaches, especially first time out. IF they have the sense and ability to surround themselves with good coaches for other positions, and especially to have good recruiters, then they can be very successful, but hiring an unproven (although very successful) player, great point guard though she may be, for a first job, is very risky. I don't know whether to applaud Minnesota or shake my head. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 1:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It may seem an act of desperation to people on the outside but desperation is business per the usual for Gopher Athletics. If you're gonna crap the bed, crap it up big and own it.



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 4:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I have talked to Whalen, albeit a long time ago, and she was not a good interview.

But your points about the lack of downside are good ones, assuming that there's enough local talent to win some games -- because sooner or later, and mostly sooner, you have to win to recruit talent.

Not being on the road to recruit during the summer is also an issue, especially now that the fall viewing period is gone. Whalen needs to be in about 20 places at once this spring, but she's nothing if not a warrior, so as pointed out, there's a reward that goes with the risk.

Again, though, are there enough Minnesota/regional girls who will come to Minnesota because of Whalen to go .500 in the Big 10?



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 4:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

snzuluz wrote:
Steph White has found little to no success at Vandy...just because you are a great player and played on the professioal level does not mean you will be successful on the college level...

Whalen has NO experience coaching on a Division I level, let alone any level...she better hire REALLY good assistants who can take her hand and walk her through the coaching duties adn the realities of coaching at any level, let alone Division I in a major conference...

Most girls have no idea who she is as they most likely were not even born when she played at Minn or were infants...unless they are from Minn and not sure every girl in Minn knows who she is, unless their parents tell her.

AD's seem to be taking the easy way out thinking bringing back a past player will solve all the problems or bring their program back to glory...

Vandy was down when White took over, but they are not any better this year then last year...Whalen will be in the same boat!

If you want to be competitive in the Big 10 this might be a good hire...if your desire as the AD is to get back to national prominance and national championship, hiring someone who has never coached at any big time level seems to indicate, that is not Minn mission or desire.


White does have good quality assistant coaches and that hasn't helped yet. Joy Cheek is known for her recruiting, Peck has a NC. I agree, it doesn't guarantee success!


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PostPosted: 04/13/18 4:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

[quote="ClayK"]I have talked to Whalen, albeit a long time ago, and she was not a good interview.[/quote]

ClayK, I also met and spoke with Whalen years ago and my experience mirrored yours. She had little to no personality. Yes, she might have changed but she struck me as one of those athletic prodigies who spent all their time honing their sport and were now unable to talk about anything but their sport. Will she be able to teach and lead off the court? Minnesota will soon find out.


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PostPosted: 04/13/18 5:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:

Again, though, are there enough Minnesota/regional girls who will come to Minnesota because of Whalen to go .500 in the Big 10?

To be competitive in the Big 10, yes. There is good talent here that has historically fled the state. If she keeps them home and draws others from the region there will be talent enough to be a potential force in the Big 10.

But to be competitive nationally, she will need to expand the programs' reach and bring in talent from outside.

But ultimately all her name does is open some doors for her. She will, in short order, need to prove that she can coach and sell the program. But the key for me is that this is true for all their potential hires. The Gophers weren't going to be able to bring in an established D1 coach from somewhere else.



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 7:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
I have talked to Whalen, albeit a long time ago, and she was not a good interview.

But your points about the lack of downside are good ones, assuming that there's enough local talent to win some games -- because sooner or later, and mostly sooner, you have to win to recruit talent.

Not being on the road to recruit during the summer is also an issue, especially now that the fall viewing period is gone. Whalen needs to be in about 20 places at once this spring, but she's nothing if not a warrior, so as pointed out, there's a reward that goes with the risk.

Again, though, are there enough Minnesota/regional girls who will come to Minnesota because of Whalen to go .500 in the Big 10?


she needs to get some good assts who are good sales people and can recruit. And she probably needs to learn from Swoopes' mistakes ...



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