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PostPosted: 11/12/17 5:07 pm    ::: South Carolina @ Maryland - 11/13/17 Reply Reply with quote

College Park, MD - 7:00 PM ET
TV: ESPN2 (Pam Ward, Gail Goestenkors)

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http://www.espn.com/watch/_/id/3185439/south-carolina-vs-maryland (tvp)

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PostPosted: 11/13/17 9:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Think UConn-Stanford wasn't close? Wait until you see this one....


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 12:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Think UConn-Stanford wasn't close? Wait until you see this one....

Yes, it's going to be ugly. (And extremely painful if, like me, you are a Terps fan.)



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 12:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Maybe the terps play with a little fight in them . Losing Destiny Slocum will show to be a huge blow for Brenda Frese , Kaila Charles though should show some promise.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 1:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's not that the Terps won't give it their all, it's just that I know they will be over-matched size-wise, and I believe they are over-matched talent-wise, plus it's a fact that they are over-matched experience-wise.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 1:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ripleydc wrote:
It's not that the Terps won't give it their all, it's just that I know they will be over-matched size-wise, and I believe they are over-matched talent-wise, plus it's a fact that they are over-matched experience-wise.


Exactly; like Stanford, they'll get better as the season progresses, but this could be an ugly week for the Terps.


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 1:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ripleydc wrote:
It's not that the Terps won't give it their all, it's just that I know they will be over-matched size-wise, and I believe they are over-matched talent-wise, plus it's a fact that they are over-matched experience-wise.


I remember saying last year that they are a tall team on the average, and it looks like that hasn't really changed.

Does anybody think that Stephanie Jones will become just as good if not better than her sister?



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 3:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kiah Gillespie is gone from Turtleland. I watched her break Katie Lou's scoring record, which broke Breanna Stewart's scoring record, at the HoopHall Classic.

Gone not to flowers but to the Seminoles. Good for her and a coach named Sue.
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PostPosted: 11/13/17 3:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
ripleydc wrote:
It's not that the Terps won't give it their all, it's just that I know they will be over-matched size-wise, and I believe they are over-matched talent-wise, plus it's a fact that they are over-matched experience-wise.


I remember saying last year that they are a tall team on the average, and it looks like that hasn't really changed.

Does anybody think that Stephanie Jones will become just as good if not better than her sister?


I had this exact same thought referring to Stephanie then quickly disregarded it ! Aja will eat her or breakfast , lunch , dinner and brunch ! Same could possibly be said for Brionna also !



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 4:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Lindsey Spann has scouted what , about Half this Maryland team? She's never been this wide open.


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Does anybody think that Stephanie Jones will become just as good if not better than her sister?


It'd be easy to guess no, but last year was her Major Knee recovery year. And what lil' Sis doesn't wanna try to keep up with Big Sis?


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 5:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I imagine once Christinaki becomes eligible for the Terps, they will become much more effective as a team. I'm assuming that she will be available after the first 9 gms for MD, since that's how many she played for Florida last season before quitting them? One interesting dynamic for tonight's game is the match-up against the Terp's Ieshia Small, who initially chose Baylor over Dawn Staley and USC during her recruitment, then transferred out of Baylor after 2 yrs.

Maryland has some talent, although it is young. Both teams return only 2 starters from last season. They handled Albany with little trouble in their lone exhibition game, winning 91-58, but only shot 37.3% from the field, which is pretty bad considering the competition, and also a bit of a head-scratcher considering six Terps scored in double-digits, which usually means the entire team had an easy time scoring against their opponent. 37.3% does not translate into an easy time, though.....


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 5:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kaila Charles will be depended on to carry the load i believe. Still not sold on iesha being a leader shes too much shot 1st at a low rate in my opinion.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 6:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A'ja Wilson, Alexis Jennings, Doniyah Cliney, Lindsey Spann and Tyasha Harris are starting 5 for USC, same as for their season opener....

Kaila Charles, Stephanie Jones, Blair Watson, Kristen Confroy, and Channise Lewis the starters for MD.....


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well the season is officially underway. Brenda has done her first live locker room performance.

I've waited months for that. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wilson gets beat and yells at her teammate Laughing


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

weird to see so many new faces.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Cocks look better to me than ever. I realize the opponent sucks, but it seems like Dawn took some offense classes over the summer.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nixtreefan wrote:
Wilson gets beat and yells at her teammate Laughing


some people seem to think that yelling at your teammates is necessary to be a good 'leader'.



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Cocks look better to me than ever. I realize the opponent sucks, but it seems like Dawn took some offense classes over the summer.


helps to have someone who can shoot threes.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ESPN is in mid-season form I see. It's only the second quarter and the game has already become an afterthought to the "and how did you spend your summer vacation" interview.

Another season of "Game? What game?"


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Who even is calling this game? One of them's quieter than the background noise.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The Wilson hook in full effect, could be called every time. And always goes left.




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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
Who even is calling this game? One of them's quieter than the background noise.


Pretty sure Allisha Gray was the quiet one we could barley hear.


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

When Maryland was in the ACC and playing UNC or Duke the contact that is sending Wilson to the line wouldn't have drawn a whistle.


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myrtle wrote:
cthskzfn wrote:
Cocks look better to me than ever. I realize the opponent sucks, but it seems like Dawn took some offense classes over the summer.


helps to have someone who can shoot threes.


Not sure what you mean. The Cocks have had 3-pt shooters equal to Spann the last 2 years at least.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Lots of sloppy play in this game.


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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When Maryland was in the ACC and playing UNC or Duke the contact that is sending Wilson to the line wouldn't have drawn a whistle.


Then UConn definitely doesn't want to go to the ACC, as they get whistles in their favor even when there's no contact.....

Rolling Eyes


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myrtle wrote:
cthskzfn wrote:
Cocks look better to me than ever. I realize the opponent sucks, but it seems like Dawn took some offense classes over the summer.


helps to have someone who can shoot threes.


Not sure what you mean. The Cocks have had 3-pt shooters equal to Spann the last 2 years at least.


maybe they still aren't very good. But they came out and hit three of them right away which deked me into thinking it had improved. Very Happy



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linkster wrote:
When Maryland was in the ACC and playing UNC or Duke the contact that is sending Wilson to the line wouldn't have drawn a whistle.


Then UConn definitely doesn't want to go to the ACC, as they get whistles in their favor even when there's no contact.....

Rolling Eyes


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Thanks to the Cocks for this choke to make it interesting.



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I'm happy. Terps giving USC a game!



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wilson getting the super, superstar calls now.



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Every Wilson flail gets a call in her favor wow.


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Anyone else thing that and-1 was a bullshit continuation call?



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Looked like SC -3.5 was a mortal lock.

Can't wait for GMac's analysis of SC's 4th period.


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Giving up 50 second half points won't sit well with Dawn.


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Gamecocks win 94-86 to improve to 2-0 on the season. A'ja Wilson set a new career high in points for a game with 32 pts and pulled down 12 rebounds. Tyasha Harris also scored a USC career best 20 pts and dished out a career best 9 assists. Lindsey Spann added 15 pts and Alexis Jennings added 12 pts and 13 boards....


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Queenie wrote:
Anyone else thing that and-1 was a bullshit continuation call?


Was laughable. But since I was giving the 3.5, I liked it.



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Anyone else thing that and-1 was a bullshit continuation call?


Depends on when the foul was called: Harris drove and did the "euro" step at the end, and hugged the ball to her abdomen as she did it. The MD player on her right slapped at the ball, but slapped Harris' forearm that was hugging the ball instead. That was when the ref blew the whistle - if that was what he/she was calling, then it was a foul, and the basket should have counted as the euro step was the follow-through to the basket....


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Giving up 50 second half points won't sit well with Dawn.

Brenda lost, but Dawn is feeling worse about tonight.



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cthskzfn wrote:
Queenie wrote:
Anyone else thing that and-1 was a bullshit continuation call?


Was laughable. But since I was giving the 3.5, I liked it.


+1 Very Happy


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The logic of old Aristotle,
and even odd spins of the bottle,
suggest the Cocks ain't all that fine,
and that the Terps have lots more shine,
than predicted by RebKellian twattle.
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ripleydc wrote:
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Giving up 50 second half points won't sit well with Dawn.

Brenda lost, but Dawn is feeling worse about tonight.


The thought was coming into the season, that with the losses of Gray, Davis, and Coates, that USC would have questions of where the offense would come from. It's way early, but from what I've seen thus far USC has just as much offense if not more than last season, and possibly from more sources. The defense is the bigger question, IMO: they let MD shoot themselves back into the game without putting up much perimeter defense to stop them...

Dawn Staley is a defensive coach. She will fix that soon enough.....


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ripleydc wrote:
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Giving up 50 second half points won't sit well with Dawn.

Brenda lost, but Dawn is feeling worse about tonight.


I was proud of the Terps. They were outmanned, as they will be much of the season, but not really outgunned at the end, especially with the refs giving the Cocks some help in the fourth quarter. Should be an interesting season especially when Eleanna joins them.


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Both teams are dumb defensively. Is it the coaches or the players not following the scout, I mean everyone and their dog knows Wilson is gonna go left! The games I have watched so far - the defense barring Uconn major players of course is way down. There will be shootouts all year if this doesn't improve.


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Both teams are dumb defensively. Is it the coaches or the players not following the scout, I mean everyone and their dog knows Wilson is gonna go left! The games I have watched so far - the defense barring Uconn major players of course is way down. There will be shootouts all year if this doesn't improve.


Some would say these comments are "dumb".....Wilson has been "going left" for over 3 years now, and she's one of the top players in WCBB. Knowing is one thing, stopping is often another.....

Both teams have major overhauls in personnel, with the new players pretty inexperienced. And it was the 2nd game of the season. I don't know about Maryland, but I do know Staley and her staff will have the defense improved as the season goes along, because they are masters of that.

Basically it was a case of MD banging, beating, and fouling both Wilson and Jennings, especially in the 4th qtr. after USC jumped to their biggest lead of 19 pts. Wilson and Jennings were getting tired out: Herbert-Harrigan decided to be stupid with the taunting foul and was in foul trouble all game, and only played 13 minutes, and LaDazhia Williams didn't play at all.

So Wilson and Jennings were the only bigs for USC and pretty much were the only ones battling at both ends of the floor. If you look at the shooting for USC, the Gamecocks shot 4-15 in the 4th and took 19 of their 33 FTs in the 4th Qtr. alone, while 3 Terps players fouled out and a 4th nearly did.

That's really where the game changed. The defense was not great but will improve. HH and Williams will get more minutes as the season progresses, as should Grissett who is also capable of lending a hand in the inside battles for rebounds.

Ct's defense didn't keep Stanford from shooting 50% in the 2nd half and outscoring them on a neutral court: I can't tell if the 1st half was due to great defense on ct's part or just Stanford cold-starting offensively on a neutral court. They played much better in the 2nd half against those same ct players. They in fact almost shot as well against ct in the 2nd half as they did against Ohio State in the 1st half in their 1st game. That's interesting. Ohio State being such a great defensive team....


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Nixtreefan wrote:
Both teams are dumb defensively. Is it the coaches or the players not following the scout, I mean everyone and their dog knows Wilson is gonna go left! The games I have watched so far - the defense barring Uconn major players of course is way down. There will be shootouts all year if this doesn't improve.


Sheryl Swoopes won three MVP awards going left more often than your average NASCAR driver.



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pilight wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
Both teams are dumb defensively. Is it the coaches or the players not following the scout, I mean everyone and their dog knows Wilson is gonna go left! The games I have watched so far - the defense barring Uconn major players of course is way down. There will be shootouts all year if this doesn't improve.


Sheryl Swoopes won three MVP awards going left more often than your average NASCAR driver.


But you would think the game has progressed since then. Every time A'ja got the ball, I would shout 'she's going left' but somehow the Maryland defense never heard me through my tv. Very Happy Admittedly she's pretty damn good at going left and was getting all the calls, but still...I expect better from the scout.



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Very impressed and pleasantly surprised with Maryland's grit.

Good sign for later in the season, much like Stanford.


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pilight wrote:
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Both teams are dumb defensively. Is it the coaches or the players not following the scout, I mean everyone and their dog knows Wilson is gonna go left! The games I have watched so far - the defense barring Uconn major players of course is way down. There will be shootouts all year if this doesn't improve.


Sheryl Swoopes won three MVP awards going left more often than your average NASCAR driver.


But you would think the game has progressed since then. Every time A'ja got the ball, I would shout 'she's going left' but somehow the Maryland defense never heard me through my tv. Very Happy Admittedly she's pretty damn good at going left and was getting all the calls, but still...I expect better from the scout.


Yep, you would think, if thinking while sitting on a couch watching a basketball game on a TV is all you had to do. But if you actually had to play these athletes instead - like the other players have to do - I bet you'd still be thinking to yourself "she's going left!" as A'ja goes to her left over and over scoring 30 pts on you while you defended her.....


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