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PostPosted: 09/25/17 11:16 pm    ::: Roy Moore pulled out a gun on stage tonight during Reply Reply with quote

a campaign speech appearance for the Alabama Senate primary.

He had a revolver in his pocket, pulled it out and waived it around. It was part of his complaint that ads saying he was weak on the 2d Amendment were lies.

This moron makes Trump look positively statesmanlike.

Among other things Moore thinks US Supreme Court decisions don't govern Alabama, wants a Christian Theocracy, and thinks homosexuality should be a crime.

Trump, Pence and McConnell are campaigning for the other guy (Strange, who was appointed to Sessions seat by the Governor). Bannon, Sarah Palin, Louis Gomert and Gorka and one of those Duck Dynasty wackos are campaigning for Moore.

Now part of me would like to see Trump's candidate lose, but that would truly be a disaster in this case. We can't have complete lunatics like this clown in the Senate. And if he wins it will embolden every other complete wacko extremist next year.

If he loses and we never hear from Moore again, it would be a good thing.



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 7:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

All lucid points. Too bad the same sound reasoning wasn't made in the 2016 POTUS election.



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 9:40 am    ::: Re: Roy Moore pulled out a gun on stage tonight during Reply Reply with quote

As I said,

ArtBest23 wrote:

This moron makes Trump look positively statesmanlike.


However bad Trump may be, Moore is still not an apt comparison. He's on a whole different plane.


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PostPosted: 09/26/17 10:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

BTW, even Nigel Farage was in town campaigning for Moore. What more need be said?

All that said, Moore is expected to win today.

The irony of Bannon's whole "if you really believe in Trump and want to support him you'll ignore Trump's endorsement of Strange and vote for Moore" nonsense is that Moore has said he'd vote against Graham-Cassidy because it doesn't do enough to repeal Obamacare.


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PostPosted: 09/26/17 5:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This is the same asshole who referred to Native Americans and Asian-Americans as "reds and yellows", right? Or was that a different asshole in Alabama?



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 5:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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This is the same asshole who referred to Native Americans and Asian-Americans as "reds and yellows", right? Or was that a different asshole in Alabama?


Oh yeah, just last week, but it was even better than that. Per The Hill:


"Moore, a former chief justice on the state Supreme Court, lamented divisions between Americans based on race, mentioning “reds and yellows."

“We were torn apart in the Civil War — brother against brother, North against South, party against party. What changed?” Moore asked in footage provided to The Hill by a Republican monitoring the race.

“Now we have blacks and whites fighting, reds and yellows fighting, Democrats and Republicans fighting, men and women fighting. What’s going to unite us? What’s going to bring us back together? A president? A Congress? No. It’s going to be God." Moore's campaign told The Hill the remarks were taken out of context.

"'Red, yellow, black and white they are precious in His sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world,'" the campaign said in a statement, in an apparent reference to the religious song "Jesus Loves the Little Children."

"This is the gospel. If we take it seriously, America can once again be united as one nation under God."


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PostPosted: 09/26/17 9:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, Moore won tonight. By a big 12 percent.

I'm waiting for Trump's tweets trying to spin why this isn't an embarrassment to him to have his chosen candidate get buried. This should be rich. Shocked Rolling Eyes

No matter how much fun it is to watch Trump squirm, this is not a good thing for the country. Neither having Moore in the Senate, nor the encouragement to Bannon and the most extreme assholes that this will provide.


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PostPosted: 09/27/17 6:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Well, Moore won tonight. By a big 12 percent.

I'm waiting for Trump's tweets trying to spin why this isn't an embarrassment to him to have his chosen candidate get buried. This should be rich. Shocked Rolling Eyes

No matter how much fun it is to watch Trump squirm, this is not a good thing for the country. Neither having Moore in the Senate, nor the encouragement to Bannon and the most extreme assholes that this will provide.


Apparently his move is to throw Strange and any support of Strange down the memory hole.



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PostPosted: 09/27/17 10:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah, El Douche deleted all his pro-Strange tweets.

Btw, did you guys know that PR is an island? Surrounded by water? You can't drive a truck to it?

FUCKING MORON.



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PostPosted: 09/30/17 1:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

These headlines should send a chill up your spine.

Roy Moore Makes Ted Cruz Look Like a Democrat

http://fortune.com/2017/09/30/roy-moore-alabama-senate-sandy-hook-newtown/

Alabama Senate GOP frontrunner: Constitution was written to "foster Christianity"

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/26/16365774/judge-roy-moore-us-constitution


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PostPosted: 11/09/17 2:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14

Yes, its homosexual people who are destroying America's moral fiber.

The man is beyond disgusting.



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PostPosted: 11/09/17 3:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The right is out on social media claiming it's all fake news and a smear campaign by the liberal Washington Post.

Shocked


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PostPosted: 11/09/17 3:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Here's a classic:

"Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler, one of Republican Roy Moore’s biggest supporters, has dismissed the Washington Post’s bombshell report about accusations that Moore made sexual advances toward teenage girls.

Brian Lyman, a reporter for the Montgomery Advertiser, conducted an interview with Zeigler on Thursday afternoon in which he said he wasn’t troubled by the multiple accusations of sexual misconduct made against Moore.

In fact, Zeigler said that he wouldn’t be disturbed by the Alabama Republican Senate candidate’s actions even if the Washington Post story were 100 percent accurate.

“Even if you accept the Washington Post’s report as being completely true, it’s much ado about very little,” he told Lyman."


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PostPosted: 11/09/17 3:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
“Even if you accept the Washington Post’s report as being completely true, it’s much ado about very little,” he told Lyman."[/i]

It is Alabama after all. Rolling Eyes

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people?



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PostPosted: 11/09/17 5:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

More Zeigler:

"Take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus.”

“There’s just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual.”

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PostPosted: 11/09/17 6:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So Roy Moore is Jesus. So even if we put aside the issue of blasphemy, that one's a little hard to swallow. Shocked


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PostPosted: 11/09/17 10:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
So Roy Moore is Jesus. So even if we put aside the issue of blasphemy, that one's a little hard to swallow. Shocked


I think in this case he is Joseph?

It also leaves out the whole Mary was a virgin thing. The whole point of the immaculate conception is that Joseph and Mary didn't have sex.


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This is what 44 seconds of GOP senators not responding to questions about Roy Moore sounds like

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There's so much here. My thoughts -- in order.

1. The shouted question: "Do you believe these women who have made allegations against Roy Moore?"

2. Senate Majority Leader McConnell sitting stone-faced. And undoubtedly thinking: "Please let this end. And soon."

3. Georgia Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson makes a brief appearance, staring into nothing, before he is cropped out of the shot entirely.

4. Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley smiling.

5. Utah's Hatch with an "I can't believe this is happening/"Is this actually happening?" look.

6. A staffer shouting "thank you" in a failed attempt to end the questioning.

7. McConnell stretching out his back and sitting up all while keeping the not-smiling-but-not-frowning he has absolutely mastered. And undoubtedly thinking: "Please let this end. And soon...."



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the repug party has now become the POP = Party of Pedophiles. they are all disgusting & the worst part is Moore is highly likely to get re-elected. but then McConnell will have to put to a vote weather to have him seated or not. and there won't be any opp to use the cop-out, 'if its true.........'

repugs are cowards. period. end. of. story.



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The last two Republican nominees for president before Trump have both made unambiguous statements denouncing Moore and calling for him to pull out of the race. I have had many differences with John McCain and Mitt Romney but at least they have some sense of morality and decency. It is truly sad to see so many Republicans put the potential of a tax cut for the wealthy ahead of normalizing child sexual abuse.

I was a Republican back when Clinton was president and it saddened me to see the presidency debased the way it was at that time. Even though I never thought Clinton's indiscretions rose to impeachable offenses, I saw Republicans show a moral compass. Now there is none. The "moral majority" is neither moral nor a majority. Republicans need to figure out what they really stand for. Are they a tear-down-the-walls, populist party that wants to do away with any civil rights protection and become a corporate-police state? Do they want a fundamentalist Christian doctrine? Do they want free trade capitalism? Do they want to maintain a safety net for the aged, poor and disabled or access to education for all, and if so to what degree?

It used to be that Democrats and Republicans both had the same general goals for the country but had different ideas on how to achieve them. Linden LaRouche was a Democrat that was disavowed by the Democrats. David Duke was a Republican that was disavowed by the Republicans. Both parties should ideally be big tents, but they both need to have gatekeepers. And Roy Moore should definitely be kept outside the gate.


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New accuser claims sexual assault by Moore in 1970s

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WASHINGTON (AP) — A new accuser said Monday that as a teenager in the 1970s she was sexually assaulted by Roy Moore in a locked car, further rocking the Alabama Republican's race for an open Senate seat. The allegation came on day when Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Moore should quit the contest, and Moore fired back that it was McConnell who should step down.

Even before the news conference by Beverly Young Nelson, Moore's campaign released a statement saying that attorney Gloria Allred — who's representing Nelson — "is a sensationalist leading a witch hunt." It said Moore is innocent and "has never had any sexual misconduct with anyone."

In tears, Nelson said in New York that when she was 16, Moore drove her home from the restaurant where she worked. She accused him of touching her breasts and locking the door to keep her inside his car. She said he squeezed her neck while trying to push her head toward his crotch and tried to pull her shirt off.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-accuser-claims-sexual-assault-by-moore-in-1970s/ar-BBEVtPT?li=BBnb7Kz



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PostPosted: 11/14/17 3:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Moore denied knowing where the restaurant was and who the woman was. But she brought an old yearbook of hers that he signed. I heard someone say tonight that even if he were to be elected the Senate would expel him.


But this whole change in how the charges of women are viewed has people talking about a reckoning for Bill Clinton, including Chris Hayes on MSNBC and Caitlyn Flanagan for The Atlantic.

Saw something yesterday that a woman who was 16 in 2003 says that when she posed for a picture with her mother and George H.W. Bush, he groped her.


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PostPosted: 11/14/17 8:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There's no doubt that Moore dated teenagers back in the day. His wife was a teenager when they started dating. He was pushing 40 at the time.



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this is where we are. we're hanging on to the last threads of moral fiber.

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Morning Joe" co-host Joe Scarborough called the stunt "insulting."

"This is incredible. C’mon, man. This is insulting," the former GOP congressman said.

Panelist Sam Stein of the Huffington Post mocked the caller's accent and obvious Jewish name.

"I got a little stain from my matzo ball soup," an amused Stein said.

"It’s so anti-Semitic. So anti-Semitic," he added.


http://thehill.com/homenews/media/360429-morning-joe-blasts-fake-washington-post-bernie-bernstein-robocall-so-anti



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Trump moved quickly Thursday to condemn accusations against Minnesota Democratic Sen. Al Franken as "really bad," but he has remained conspicuously silent on the more serious claims leveled against Roy Moore, the Republican in Alabama's special Senate race who faces allegations he sexually assaulted teenage girls decades ago.

Trump has repeatedly declined to follow Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan in calling on Moore to quit the race. Both had said they believe Moore's accusers.


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More than a dozen allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct were leveled against him in the waning days of the 2016 presidential campaign. Trump was caught on tape in conversation with "Access Hollywood" boasting in graphic detail of sexually harassing women.

Trump has repeatedly dismissed the allegations against him as fake news, most recently telling reporters on Oct. 16: "It's just fake. It's fake. It's made-up stuff."


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/selective-outrage-trump-criticizes-franken-silent-on-moore/ar-BBF4D1u?li=BBnb7Kz



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Alabama pastor supporting Moore: 'More women are sexual predators than men'

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An Alabama pastor who supports Senate candidate Roy Moore (R) blasted the allegations of sexual harassment against Moore, saying they're part of a "war on men."

"More women are sexual predators than men," Pastor Franklin Raddish told AL.com. "Women are chasing young boys up and down the road, but we don't hear about that because it's not PC."

The news organization spoke to Raddish as part of an effort to speak with every pastor that endorsed Moore before the allegations against him were made public. Nineteen of the 29 pastors who responded told AL.com they were still supporting Moore.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/Alabama-pastor-supporting-moore-more-women-are-sexual-predators-than-men/ar-BBF8Em2?li=BBnbcA1



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I hope she remains safe. If this year taught us anything is that republicans and stupid evangelical don't actually care about the values they espouse. She is cracking the veneer and they will retaliate against her.



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Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump on Tuesday defended embattled Alabama Republican Roy Moore, all but endorsing the Senate candidate who has been accused of sexual assault.

"He denies it. Look, he denies it," Trump said of Moore. "If you look at all the things that have happened over the last 48 hours. He totally denies it. He says it didn't happen. And look, you have to look at him also."


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"We don't need a liberal person in there, a Democrat, Jones. I've looked at his record. It's terrible on crime. It's terrible on the border. It's terrible on military," Trump said. "I can tell you for a fact we do not need somebody who's going to be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad for the military, bad for the Second Amendment."


http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/politics/donald-trump-roy-moore-alabama/index.html[/quote]



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Moore's Communication Director just quit.



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Trump plans on campaigning for him. Is this an all-time low for the presidency? When did we get to the point that a sitting president will actively campaign for a child abusing pedophile?



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The GOP's position is essentially "better a pedophile than a Democrat".

I wonder if there is anything one could do that would cross the line. Someone should ask Conway next time she says passing tax breaks for billionaires is more important than Moore's lack of character if there is anything he could do that would be too much.


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justintyme wrote:
When did we get to the point that a sitting president will actively campaign for a child abusing pedophile?


January 20, 2017


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http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-alabama-senate-runoff-20170921-story.html

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In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience — who asked when Moore thought America was last "great" -- Moore acknowledged the nation's history of racial divisions, but said: "I think it was great at the time when families were united -- even though we had slavery -- they cared for one another…. Our families were strong, our country had a direction."



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The prospect of Roy Moore as a senator is terrifying. What really gets me is that when I look at the demographics only 2/3 of Alabama is white. 27% is black and 4% Hispanic and the rest is Asian, mixed race or other. I can't believe that Moore could get more than 10% of the non-white vote, so that means he has to win 70% of the white vote. That would mean 90% of the white males and 50% of the white females will vote for a child molester over a democrat, particularly a very moderate democrat who would probably be more conservative than any Democratic senator other than Joe Manchin.

Genero36, thanks for posting that interview. It just shows how this crazy right movement has systematically gotten people to disregard the news media by shouting them down and refusing to answer questions. I believe we will still be able to win back our country over time (and I still have hope that Doug Jones will win), that the Democrats will retake the House in 2018 and will be able to retake the Senate and the White House in 2020. But even if that happens I am concerned at how much damage will be done before then, how difficult it will be to undo some of that damage, and how divided the country has become.


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Genero36, thanks for posting that interview.


No problem. Here's more of who Alabama is close to selecting as Senator.

Roy Moore: America Was 'Great' During 'Slavery'

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At a campaign event earlier this year, an audience member asked Moore for his opinion on when the last time America was "great." Moore responded: "I think it was great at the time when families were united—even though we had slavery—they cared for one another…. Our families were strong, our country had a direction." The individual who asked the question was among the only African-Americans in attendance at the rally. In stating this, Moore seemingly implied he'd be able to overlook the enslavement of other human beings as long as families are "united," an interesting perspective from a man accused of repeatedly preying on young girls.

Moore's remarks were featured in an article from the Los Angeles Times in September but resurfaced Thursday in a viral tweet from Eric Columbus, a former Obama administration official. "Can't make this up—Roy Moore said in September that the last time America was great was when we had slavery," Columbus tweeted.

Moore's comments at the rally bring to mind President Donald Trump's slogan, "Make America Great Again," which many have interpreted as a rallying cry to incite white nationalists. Trump has controversially endorsed Moore, despite widespread condemnation and the damning allegations the Senate candidate faces. Trump reportedly said "Go get ‘em, Roy!" during a recent phone call with the candidate.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/roy-moore-america-was-great-during-slavery/ar-BBGnmaH?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout



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Moore accuser Beverly Nelson has admitted that she lied about the writing in the yearbook in which she originally claimed was written by Moore. It was forged by her. That's a pretty damning admission.


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Moore accuser Beverly Nelson has admitted that she lied about the writing in the yearbook in which she originally claimed was written by Moore. It was forged by her. That's a pretty damning admission.


To be clear, she says that she added the date and the name of the restaurant, but that the rest was written by Roy Moore.



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Moore accuser Beverly Nelson has admitted that she lied about the writing in the yearbook in which she originally claimed was written by Moore. It was forged by her. That's a pretty damning admission.

How about you report the entire story rather than just the Fox News/Ann Coulter headline?

Your defensr of Moore is disgusting based upon how much evidence there is against him. He is a child molester and you are willing to overlook it, and worse, actively spread disinformation about his victims to defend him. That is reprehensible behavior.

The whole story is that there was an addendum added to what was written by Moore that has the date/location written on it. That is what she said was written by her, and is not an abnormal thing to add (sort of like writing the date and location on the back of a picture). She is adamant that the rest was written by Moore, and is willing to submit it to handwriting experts to verify it. It can also be given the eyeball test to see that it is Moore's writing. Unless she is some master forger (she's not) we can be fairly certain the important parts were not written by her.

Seriously, when you find yourself in the side of a child molester and attacking his victims, it might be time to take a long look in the mirror and question your life decisions.



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Notably, it is also shit like this that keeps women from coming forward.



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PostPosted: 12/08/17 2:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
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Moore accuser Beverly Nelson has admitted that she lied about the writing in the yearbook in which she originally claimed was written by Moore. It was forged by her. That's a pretty damning admission.

How about you report the entire story rather than just the Fox News/Ann Coulter headline?

Your defensr of Moore is disgusting based upon how much evidence there is against him. He is a child molester and you are willing to overlook it, and worse, actively spread disinformation about his victims to defend him. That is reprehensible behavior.

The whole story is that there was an addendum added to what was written by Moore that has the date/location written on it. That is what she said was written by her, and is not an abnormal thing to add (sort of like writing the date and location on the back of a picture). She is adamant that the rest was written by Moore, and is willing to submit it to handwriting experts to verify it. It can also be given the eyeball test to see that it is Moore's writing. Unless she is some master forger (she's not) we can be fairly certain the important parts were not written by her.

Seriously, when you find yourself in the side of a child molester and attacking his victims, it might be time to take a long look in the mirror and question your life decisions.

My defense of Moore... when did I do that? I'm pointing out that she forged his yearbook signature which is what Moore has been claiming all along.
Also where is this evidence that you speak of? Real evidence. Show me some real evidence of child molestation or sexual assault and I will take my whole nonexistant defense of Moore back, and it will also justify your need to act like a petulant child every time I post on this forum.
How can you be fairly certain about anything? Because you were told what you wanted to hear and you're willing to believe it? I'm certain you're a fool if anything.


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PostPosted: 12/08/17 2:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
To be clear, she says that she added the date and the name of the restaurant, but that the rest was written by Roy Moore.

That is still quite the departure from her original claim.


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PostPosted: 12/08/17 2:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Stonington_QB wrote:
tfan wrote:
To be clear, she says that she added the date and the name of the restaurant, but that the rest was written by Roy Moore.

That is still quite the departure from her original claim.


How is it significantly different?


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PostPosted: 12/08/17 2:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
Stonington_QB wrote:
tfan wrote:
To be clear, she says that she added the date and the name of the restaurant, but that the rest was written by Roy Moore.

That is still quite the departure from her original claim.


How is it significantly different?

This yearboook was supposed to be her smoking gun. Like this was her damning evidence that she was assaulted. Now you have to question if he wrote any part of it.

I look at it this way: If Moore REALLY assaulted her, then why did she let him sign her yearbook? Why didn't she report this incident? Why did she wait 40 years to come forward.

I have no vested interest in Moore's election. If he ever committed assault or molested a child, then he should pay the price. At the same time, I don't like liars either. This lady sounds like a liar to me.


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PostPosted: 12/08/17 2:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://www.newsweek.com/roy-moore-blamed-drive-shootings-evolution-education-742275

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“That’s the kind of logic they’ve used in our society today when we have kids driving by shooting each other that they don’t even know each other. They're acting like animals because we've taught them they come from animals," said Moore, who at the time was an Alabama Circuit judge. He was speaking at the "Role of Religion in the U.S. Government" conference hosted by the National Clergy Council.



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PostPosted: 12/08/17 3:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Stonington_QB wrote:
I'm pointing out that she forged his yearbook signature which is what Moore has been claiming all along.

No she didn't. That is the false claim you are making. What was added later was "12-22-77 Olde Hickory House". The signature and all the rest was all him, and she has repeatedly offered it up to handwriting experts to verify.

The stuff that was added is the same type of things people add to items of significance all the time. I have loads of photos with date and location written on the back. Pretty sure most people do.

Also, the yearbook was not the "smoking gun" that he assaulted her. You need to stop getting your information from Breitbart. What it was a "smoking gun" for was his claim that he didn't know her at all and had never met her. She pulled out the yearbook to show that he did have a personal relationship with her at that time and was familiar enough with her to write such a personal message.

In other words the yearbook doesn't prove that he assaulted her, it proves that he is a liar. And yet you take the word of a proven liar over the word of numerous women making the same claim independently.

As for why she would have him sign her yearbook, she was a kid at the time. Which is the damn point. Kids don't always fully understand what is happening or how they are being used at the time. It is later when they realize "hey, that was fucked up." Many times they are just excited to be getting attention from an older man at the time. This is why we as a society have determined that this is repugnant behavior.

As for evidence, you have a bunch of eye witnesses giving testimony along with contemporary accounts that set up a pattern of behavior that gives veracity to the claims.



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PostPosted: 12/08/17 3:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
Stonington_QB wrote:
I'm pointing out that she forged his yearbook signature which is what Moore has been claiming all along.

No she didn't. That is the false claim you are making. What was added later was "12-22-77 Olde Hickory House". The signature and all the rest was all him, and she has repeatedly offered it up to handwriting experts to verify.

The stuff that was added is the same type of things people add to things all the time. I have loads of photos with date and location written on the back. Pretty sure most people do.

Also, the yearbook was not the "smoking gun" that he assaulted her. You need to stop getting your information from Breitbart. What it was a "smoking gun" for was his claim that he didn't know her at all and had never met her. She pulled out the yearbook to show that he did have a personal relationship with her at that time and was familiar enough with her to write such a personal message.

In other words the yearbook doesn't prove that he assaulted her, it proves that he is a liar. And yet you take the word of a proven liar over the word of numerous women making the same claim independently.

As for why she would have him sign her yearbook, she was a kid at the time. Which is the damn point. Kids don't always fully understand what is happening or how they are being used at the time. It is later when they realize "hey, that was fucked up." Many times they are just excited to be getting attention from an older man at the time. This is why we as a society have determined that this is repugnant behavior.

As for evidence, you have a bunch of eye witnesses giving testimony along with contemporary accounts that set up a pattern of behavior that gives veracity to the claims.


And there is another card from him to another of his victims in the identical handwriting.

Not too mention that people are convicted of crimes on the basis of live testimony every day. It's called evidence. It's the most common type of evidence there is.

Maybe Stonington should go watch some Perry Mason episodes. It's on every day on FETV. Sure it's fiction but he'd still learn more about our legal system than he knows now. Anything is more than zero.


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