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Final Career Points for Kelsey Mitchell
<3000
18%
 18%  [ 3 ]
3000-3283
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
3284-3393
12%
 12%  [ 2 ]
3394-3527
43%
 43%  [ 7 ]
3528-3649
18%
 18%  [ 3 ]
3650-3667
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
3668+
6%
 6%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: 10/21/17 4:12 pm    ::: How Many Points Will Kelsey Mitchell Score in Her Career? Reply Reply with quote

After the tracking madness of last season, it is time to do it again. I have compiled a points table so that nobody needs to do any calculations. Averages are what is needed to surpass that person's mark. 40 games would be extremely unlikely because they would need to not have a conference tournament bye.

This is a two week poll. Poll options are for the marks reached by the players listed in the table.

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PostPosted: 10/21/17 4:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kelsey + Kelsey= They Break Records

Video of them at USA basketball camp. Mitchell seems super humble about all the attention. Plum is hamming it up.


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PostPosted: 10/21/17 5:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

She's played 35, 34, and 35 games so far in her career.
2553 career points so far at an average of 24.5 ppg

If she has an average year: 35 * 24.5 = 857.5
2553 + 858 = 3411

Is she going for the record or working on improving her team game?



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PostPosted: 10/23/17 11:29 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think she will break it. Why not. Ohio St hasn't shown via their coach that they have discipline, is that Kelsey's fault.


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PostPosted: 10/25/17 9:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Woodard and Maravich did it the hard way without the threes. I’d love to see this comparison by field goals made.


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PostPosted: 10/26/17 6:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Does the team want to be competitive enough with balance, focus and defensive intensity and play at home in the Final Four or do they want their star player to break an individual scoring record? 🤷‍♀️


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PostPosted: 10/26/17 8:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PRballer wrote:
Does the team want to be competitive enough with balance, focus and defensive intensity and play at home in the Final Four or do they want their star player to break an individual scoring record? 🤷‍♀️


I think Kelsey has to score a lot for her team to be successful. Granted, she doesn't need to be a volume shooter. But I don't think Ohio State has enough scorers to be elite without Mitchell averaging 22-24ppg. I think her scoring should come within more of a flow of the offense, but her talent is off the charts and to me, she should be scoring that much.

So, Ohio State needs discipline on offense, less dribbling by Mitchell and some sort of commitment to defense. Easy as that. Boom. Ohio State is fixed. Next.....


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PostPosted: 10/26/17 12:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mzonefan wrote:
Woodard and Maravich did it the hard way without the threes. I’d love to see this comparison by field goals made.


Maravich also played during a time when freshmen couldn't play, so he only had three years.


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PostPosted: 10/26/17 1:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
mzonefan wrote:
Woodard and Maravich did it the hard way without the threes. I’d love to see this comparison by field goals made.


Maravich also played during a time when freshmen couldn't play, so he only had three years.


Whoah. Amazing!


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PostPosted: 10/26/17 1:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
mzonefan wrote:
Woodard and Maravich did it the hard way without the threes. I’d love to see this comparison by field goals made.


Maravich also played during a time when freshmen couldn't play, so he only had three years.


He also did it without a shot clock



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PostPosted: 10/27/17 1:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
mzonefan wrote:
Woodard and Maravich did it the hard way without the threes. I’d love to see this comparison by field goals made.


Maravich also played during a time when freshmen couldn't play, so he only had three years.


He also did it without a shot clock


Maravich also played for his father, Press......Press was a somewhat capable coach, but he began to envision having a system that evolved around his son back before Pete was in high school, and it only grew into an obsession as Pete got older, and got better.

Press struggled to find a college willing to hire him because he openly declared that whatever program he took over, it will involve his son, and it would be designed around his son. All other players would work into this system, where they handed the ball to Pete and got out of his way. There were several schools that scoffed at this before LSU chose to give it a try.

Pistol Maravich has the college records in career points scored and points scored per game. They may be overtaken by a player that plays a full four years, but even that would be a stretch.

What most don't talk about, is that Pistol also owns the all-time college career records in shot attempts. That's even MORE of an unattainable record, even WITH players playing a full 4 seasons. Maravich completed around 44-45% of his shot attempts, which was decent at best. But he took such HUGE plethoras of shot attempts every game he played for his father at LSU. Because it was how his father wanted it.

LSU never made the NCAAT during Maravich's career there, because Press' system wasn't designed for that kind of success. They struggled to even have winning seasons, much less win 20 games a season. Today, no head coach would be allowed to throw away seasons designing a system around one player, much less his own son, because no other players would agree to play in that system. Pass the ball to Pete, block out for Pete, rebound the ball and hand it back to Pete.

Pete Maravich was a very talented player....he went on to the NBA and had many seasons playing with other professional players on several teams, where he averaged 20+ PPG in multiple seasons. He was a quality 20-25 PPG type player in the NBA - when he was healthy of body and mind - which is still All-Star caliber. But the days of averaging 40-45 PPG like at LSU were long gone, unless he was able to get his dad to coach his team for him. That was never going to happen in the NBA.....


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PostPosted: 10/28/17 12:17 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Conway Gamecock wrote:
pilight wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
mzonefan wrote:
Woodard and Maravich did it the hard way without the threes. I’d love to see this comparison by field goals made.


Maravich also played during a time when freshmen couldn't play, so he only had three years.


He also did it without a shot clock


Maravich also played for his father, Press......Press was a somewhat capable coach, but he began to envision having a system that evolved around his son back before Pete was in high school, and it only grew into an obsession as Pete got older, and got better.

Press struggled to find a college willing to hire him because he openly declared that whatever program he took over, it will involve his son, and it would be designed around his son. All other players would work into this system, where they handed the ball to Pete and got out of his way. There were several schools that scoffed at this before LSU chose to give it a try.

Pistol Maravich has the college records in career points scored and points scored per game. They may be overtaken by a player that plays a full four years, but even that would be a stretch.

What most don't talk about, is that Pistol also owns the all-time college career records in shot attempts. That's even MORE of an unattainable record, even WITH players playing a full 4 seasons. Maravich completed around 44-45% of his shot attempts, which was decent at best. But he took such HUGE plethoras of shot attempts every game he played for his father at LSU. Because it was how his father wanted it.

LSU never made the NCAAT during Maravich's career there, because Press' system wasn't designed for that kind of success. They struggled to even have winning seasons, much less win 20 games a season. Today, no head coach would be allowed to throw away seasons designing a system around one player, much less his own son, because no other players would agree to play in that system. Pass the ball to Pete, block out for Pete, rebound the ball and hand it back to Pete.

Pete Maravich was a very talented player....he went on to the NBA and had many seasons playing with other professional players on several teams, where he averaged 20+ PPG in multiple seasons. He was a quality 20-25 PPG type player in the NBA - when he was healthy of body and mind - which is still All-Star caliber. But the days of averaging 40-45 PPG like at LSU were long gone, unless he was able to get his dad to coach his team for him. That was never going to happen in the NBA.....


The NCAA's only had at most 25 teams in the tournament. In addition, only one team from a conference could get in. So it wasn't the coach's style that was the big reason Pete never made it, it was the format of the tournament.


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PostPosted: 10/28/17 12:17 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Conway Gamecock wrote:
pilight wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
mzonefan wrote:
Woodard and Maravich did it the hard way without the threes. I’d love to see this comparison by field goals made.


Maravich also played during a time when freshmen couldn't play, so he only had three years.


He also did it without a shot clock


Maravich also played for his father, Press......Press was a somewhat capable coach, but he began to envision having a system that evolved around his son back before Pete was in high school, and it only grew into an obsession as Pete got older, and got better.

Press struggled to find a college willing to hire him because he openly declared that whatever program he took over, it will involve his son, and it would be designed around his son. All other players would work into this system, where they handed the ball to Pete and got out of his way. There were several schools that scoffed at this before LSU chose to give it a try.

Pistol Maravich has the college records in career points scored and points scored per game. They may be overtaken by a player that plays a full four years, but even that would be a stretch.

What most don't talk about, is that Pistol also owns the all-time college career records in shot attempts. That's even MORE of an unattainable record, even WITH players playing a full 4 seasons. Maravich completed around 44-45% of his shot attempts, which was decent at best. But he took such HUGE plethoras of shot attempts every game he played for his father at LSU. Because it was how his father wanted it.

LSU never made the NCAAT during Maravich's career there, because Press' system wasn't designed for that kind of success. They struggled to even have winning seasons, much less win 20 games a season. Today, no head coach would be allowed to throw away seasons designing a system around one player, much less his own son, because no other players would agree to play in that system. Pass the ball to Pete, block out for Pete, rebound the ball and hand it back to Pete.

Pete Maravich was a very talented player....he went on to the NBA and had many seasons playing with other professional players on several teams, where he averaged 20+ PPG in multiple seasons. He was a quality 20-25 PPG type player in the NBA - when he was healthy of body and mind - which is still All-Star caliber. But the days of averaging 40-45 PPG like at LSU were long gone, unless he was able to get his dad to coach his team for him. That was never going to happen in the NBA.....


The NCAA's only had at most 25 teams in the tournament. In addition, only one team from a conference could get in. So it wasn't the coach's style that was the big reason Pete never made it, it was the format of the tournament.


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PostPosted: 10/31/17 12:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:


The NCAA's only had at most 25 teams in the tournament. In addition, only one team from a conference could get in. So it wasn't the coach's style that was the big reason Pete never made it, it was the format of the tournament.


Thank you for injecting a dose of reality.

On top of that, we're talking about the SEC which was completely dominated by Adolph Rupp's KY teams, which was the SEC's sole tourney representative for 19 of 25 years, including every year Pete was at LSU.

Maravich was surrounded by mediocre teammates, but still, the Maravich's turned an LSU program that had had one winning season in the previous dozen, into a 22-10 NIT Final Four team (at a time when the NIT was filled with teams who would all be in the tournament today).

In addition to his prodigious scoring, no less an authority than John Havlicek called Pete "the best ball handler of all time" in an interview in 2010.

His passing was epic. It was routine to see him make an incredible no look one handed pass through traffic, only to see it bounce off a teammate who wasn't looking for it. Even so, he averaged 6.2 apg as a senior.


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PostPosted: 10/31/17 7:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The Pistol played before the three-point era. It has been reported that Dale Brown, the LSU coach after Press Maravich, charted all the jump shots of Pete Maravich's college career, and calculated that he would have averaged 13 three-point makes per game with a 19-9 three-point line. If so, he would have averaged 57 ppg for his career.

The claim is repeated by Bill Walton in this video:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zk-JJX2SRHc" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I ran into Pete Maravich at the Pirates' House restaurant in Savannah, Georgia, in the early '70's.
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PostPosted: 11/10/17 8:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

After Game 1:

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PostPosted: 11/12/17 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Trying to get more opportunities to score by missing a free throw seems like cheating.

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PostPosted: 11/12/17 8:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

And Pete Maravich did all this with a defective heart that usually kills people by the time the are twenty. He had no left coronary artery. He basically was working with half a functioning heart. It finally did kill him at the age of forty during a pick up game long after he had retired.

As to his career in the NBA he was way ahead of his time and his teammates basically froze him out of the offense. They also resented the money he was making. His style of play was not being played by teams in the NBA at that time. He as also one of the best ball handlers and passers ever. All that did not sit well with how conservative the league was at that time.


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PostPosted: 11/14/17 1:47 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/h7zf5xR9AIk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


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PostPosted: 11/15/17 9:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

After Game 3:
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PostPosted: 11/17/17 9:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bumping that average back up:
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PostPosted: 11/19/17 4:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Washington not really helping to keep the record in house.

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PostPosted: 11/23/17 8:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm going off livestats here, so if the official ones have her at anything other than 20 points, let me know.

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