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To be fair, she is the one who keeps writing books discussing the election and holding interviews instead of retiring from the public eye and getting on with her life like Obama. Supposedly Bill basically told her it was a terrible idea to write her last book, yet she went ahead and did it.
You can't really keep yourself out there and then be made when people keep discussing you.
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| Posted: 10/16/17 9:08 pm ::: |
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| You have to admit that it's odd that someone who claims to hate the Hillary attention is the one bringing her up all the time here. Like this really needed a new thread?
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| Posted: 10/17/17 9:15 am ::: |
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Why is it "odd"? I don't like Trump either but I discuss him too. As do you.
I find her boundless ego and persistent denial of all personal responsibility amusing. It also reinforces what a truly horrific candidate she was and should serve as a warning to the democrats as they continue to push to the front of their pack other equally unelectable candidates.
I'm not the one keeping her in the public eye. It's one of the few things she's really good at.
Maybe you should write a letter to the editor of Newsweek complaining about their editorial decisions to continue to write about her ridiculous "I'm the Victim" tour. Sort of on the same trajectory as Spinal Tap's "Smell the Glove" tour.
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| Posted: 10/17/17 9:58 am ::: |
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Is posting re HRC really equal to posting re Chump? One is a private citizen, the other, POTUS.
One can't harm you, the other is literally causing the death of 1000s of U.S. citizens.
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| Posted: 10/17/17 11:36 am ::: |
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| Don't we all post frequently about people and issues that bug us? There is a new Trump thread every other day about the latest stupid thing he did, or linking to the newest scathing article that highlights his incompetence. Perhaps we could all do a better job of adding to existing threads rather than create new ones, but objecting to Art's particular bugaboo seems unfair.
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| Posted: 10/17/17 12:01 pm ::: |
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| Is posting re HRC really equal to posting re Chump? One is a private citizen, the other, POTUS. |
If she remains in the public eye holding interviews, writing books, and discussing the election, yes.
Pretending like she isn't a person of interest/consequence just because she isn't POTUS is disingenuous.
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| Posted: 10/17/17 12:10 pm ::: |
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| Don't we all post frequently about people and issues that bug us? There is a new Trump thread every other day about the latest stupid thing he did, or linking to the newest scathing article that highlights his incompetence. Perhaps we could all do a better job of adding to existing threads rather than create new ones, but objecting to Art's particular bugaboo seems unfair. |
"Fairness" has nothing to do with it. They just don't like being reminded of what a caricature their hero has become. Since her crusade is indefensible, they attack me for posting about it as a surrogate.
Displaced aggression.
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| Posted: 10/17/17 12:47 pm ::: |
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| Don't we all post frequently about people and issues that bug us? There is a new Trump thread every other day about the latest stupid thing he did, or linking to the newest scathing article that highlights his incompetence. Perhaps we could all do a better job of adding to existing threads rather than create new ones, but objecting to Art's particular bugaboo seems unfair. |
Well said.
I think this forum has lost players, fans and ratings because of the culturally politicized 2016 election. (Which may be a worthy topic in itself.) It's now become tiresome, at least to me, to have thread after tribalistic thread repeating the same partisan message about the same political figures based upon some new fact or alternative fact du jour.
It may be better to structure four general and ongoing threads: the Positive Things About Hillary Thread, the Negative Things About Hillary Thread, the Positive Things About Trump Thread, and the Negative Things About Trump Thread. Then posters can add their latest compliment or gripe, based on the facts du jour, to the appropriate thread, and readers can more easily decide which threads to read or ignore.
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| Posted: 10/17/17 1:48 pm ::: |
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| justintyme wrote: |
| Don't we all post frequently about people and issues that bug us? There is a new Trump thread every other day about the latest stupid thing he did, or linking to the newest scathing article that highlights his incompetence. Perhaps we could all do a better job of adding to existing threads rather than create new ones, but objecting to Art's particular bugaboo seems unfair. |
"Fairness" has nothing to do with it. They just don't like being reminded of what a caricature their hero has become. Since her crusade is indefensible, they attack me for posting about it as a surrogate.
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No, it’s simply that your crusade isn’t worth anything more than a meme. Particularly because you clearly haven’t listened to her. She’s taken responsibility. She does so in her book. She’s done so in interviews. You just like the ridiculous talking point. (Also, she’s mostly not to blame).
Justin - discussion about Clinton is fair. Foxnews/BernieBro talking points with no substance behind them (aka #clintonderrangementsyndrome ) isn’t worth any of our time.
To pretend like her story from her point of view isn’t worth telling is gross. Btw, serious people (staticians, historians etc..) say she’s far more accurate on her loss, than anyone else reporting on it. And she’s right, Democrats need to learn from what happened. Comey was specific to Clinton, gender as well, but attacks on voting rights and intense propaganda (through a foreign country) via technology will effect whomever runs in 2020 (and possibly 2018). Likewise, the press itself needs a huge wake up call.
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| justintyme wrote: |
| Don't we all post frequently about people and issues that bug us? There is a new Trump thread every other day about the latest stupid thing he did, or linking to the newest scathing article that highlights his incompetence. Perhaps we could all do a better job of adding to existing threads rather than create new ones, but objecting to Art's particular bugaboo seems unfair. |
"Fairness" has nothing to do with it. They just don't like being reminded of what a caricature their hero has become. Since her crusade is indefensible, they attack me for posting about it as a surrogate.
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No, it’s simply that your crusade isn’t worth anything more than a meme. Particularly because you clearly haven’t listened to her. She’s taken responsibility. She does so in her book. She’s done so in interviews. You just like the ridiculous talking point. (Also, she’s mostly not to blame).
Justin - discussion about Clinton is fair. Foxnews/BernieBro talking points with no substance behind them (aka #clintonderrangementsyndrome ) isn’t worth any of our time.
To pretend like her story from her point of view isn’t worth telling is gross. Btw, serious people (staticians, historians etc..) say she’s far more accurate on her loss, than anyone else reporting on it. And she’s right, Democrats need to learn from what happened. Comey was specific to Clinton, gender as well, but attacks on voting rights and intense propaganda (through a foreign country) via technology will effect whomever runs in 2020 (and possibly 2018). Likewise, the press itself needs a huge wake up call. |
I take it you didn't read the Newsweek article.
The list of absurd excuses just keep growing.
And the extent of her "accept responsibility" amounts to "Well I take a tiny little bit of responsibility but only after these 597 other reasons. Hey, I'm the victim here!"
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| Posted: 10/17/17 6:25 pm ::: |
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| justintyme wrote: |
| Don't we all post frequently about people and issues that bug us? There is a new Trump thread every other day about the latest stupid thing he did, or linking to the newest scathing article that highlights his incompetence. Perhaps we could all do a better job of adding to existing threads rather than create new ones, but objecting to Art's particular bugaboo seems unfair. |
"Fairness" has nothing to do with it. They just don't like being reminded of what a caricature their hero has become. Since her crusade is indefensible, they attack me for posting about it as a surrogate.
Displaced aggression. |
No, it’s simply that your crusade isn’t worth anything more than a meme. Particularly because you clearly haven’t listened to her. She’s taken responsibility. She does so in her book. She’s done so in interviews. You just like the ridiculous talking point. (Also, she’s mostly not to blame).
Justin - discussion about Clinton is fair. Foxnews/BernieBro talking points with no substance behind them (aka #clintonderrangementsyndrome ) isn’t worth any of our time.
To pretend like her story from her point of view isn’t worth telling is gross. Btw, serious people (staticians, historians etc..) say she’s far more accurate on her loss, than anyone else reporting on it. And she’s right, Democrats need to learn from what happened. Comey was specific to Clinton, gender as well, but attacks on voting rights and intense propaganda (through a foreign country) via technology will effect whomever runs in 2020 (and possibly 2018). Likewise, the press itself needs a huge wake up call. |
I take it you didn't read the Newsweek article.
The list of absurd excuses just keep growing.
And the extent of her "accept responsibility" amounts to "Well I take a tiny little bit of responsibility but only after these 597 other reasons. Hey, I'm the victim here!" |
#ClintonDerangementSyndrome
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| Posted: 10/17/17 10:29 pm ::: |
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| Is posting re HRC really equal to posting re Chump? One is a private citizen, the other, POTUS. |
If she remains in the public eye holding interviews, writing books, and discussing the election, yes.
Pretending like she isn't a person of interest/consequence just because she isn't POTUS is disingenuous. |
Who's pretending such a thing?
Trump is fucking up America. HRC is merely fucking up ArtBest's mind.
There's a difference. That said, Art (and the rest of us) can post what we want (within the rules, of course).
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| Posted: 10/18/17 10:15 am ::: |
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Trump is fucking up America. |
Yeah they aren't equal in the amount of damage they can do the country, but the posting of them is equal. They are both equally legitimate, topical subjects (along with a slew of other things we all post on).
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| Posted: 10/18/17 5:09 pm ::: Re: Newsweek collects "every" Clinton excuse for l |
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Also, along with finding her ceaseless "It's not my fault" campaign amusing, I also find amusing the hysteria directed at me by a couple of the same posters each time I mock their idol. Even if her tour wasn't worth a mention (something with which the media obviously disagrees, as they never fail to cover it), the laughable reaction here would make posting these articles well worth the minimal effort.
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You rang, lurch?
So, your creepy obsession is actually with me, not Clinton. Flattering.
Also, it's cute that you think I (or anyone who has a reasonable view of Clinton), take you seriously when it comes to this topic. You've gone off the deep end.
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She can put herself out there all she wants. It's just .... PECULIAR .... that a vociferous *hater* would denounce that action, and then....keep her presence alive here on a regular basis. Seems a bit masochistic.
