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PostPosted: 10/16/17 5:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

MGM owns 50% of the new(ish) T-mobile arena, the other 50% is owned by the Anschutz Entertainment Group:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschutz_Entertainment_Group



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PostPosted: 10/16/17 5:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
https://twitter.com/hoopfeed/status/919641598606151680


Well, they own three of the five potential arenas, so that's a logical choice.


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PostPosted: 10/16/17 5:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

At least it's a company unlikely to immediately go bust (we hope) and a company that understands marketing, so two good points in its favor if true.



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PostPosted: 10/16/17 6:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Get ready for the Vegas Grand.


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J-Spoon wrote:
Get ready for the Vegas Grand.


Please no no no



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PostPosted: 10/16/17 6:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
pilight wrote:
Stars ‘shocked, speechless, angry’ about move

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/silver_stars/article/Stars-shocked-speechless-angry-about-move-12278696.php

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Johnson, who had completed her first season, learned Thursday that Spurs Sports & Entertainment, the Stars’ parent company, was selling the team


Not sure why any of the players would be angry about the move. I mean, if I played in San Antonio Texas, where there is really nothing to do, and had a chance to move to Las Vegas to play during the summer, I wouldn’t be able to pack my suitcases quick enough. Buh-bye


Really?


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PostPosted: 10/16/17 8:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

RavenDog wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
pilight wrote:
Stars ‘shocked, speechless, angry’ about move

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/silver_stars/article/Stars-shocked-speechless-angry-about-move-12278696.php

Quote:
Johnson, who had completed her first season, learned Thursday that Spurs Sports & Entertainment, the Stars’ parent company, was selling the team


Not sure why any of the players would be angry about the move. I mean, if I played in San Antonio Texas, where there is really nothing to do, and had a chance to move to Las Vegas to play during the summer, I wouldn’t be able to pack my suitcases quick enough. Buh-bye


Really?


That statement may be subject to revision. "Quickly packing suitcases for Las Vegas" later became:

Ay Mate wrote:
The weather is horrible in the summer, your right. I visited Vegas for the first time about 4 years ago and while I love casinos, I wasn’t impressed with anything about Vegas except for how elaborate and beautiful the casino’s are. I would not lose any sleep if I never went back.




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PostPosted: 10/16/17 11:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
RavenDog wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
pilight wrote:
Stars ‘shocked, speechless, angry’ about move

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/silver_stars/article/Stars-shocked-speechless-angry-about-move-12278696.php

Quote:
Johnson, who had completed her first season, learned Thursday that Spurs Sports & Entertainment, the Stars’ parent company, was selling the team


Not sure why any of the players would be angry about the move. I mean, if I played in San Antonio Texas, where there is really nothing to do, and had a chance to move to Las Vegas to play during the summer, I wouldn’t be able to pack my suitcases quick enough. Buh-bye


Really?


That statement may be subject to revision. "Quickly packing suitcases for Las Vegas" later became:

Quote:
The weather is horrible in the summer, your right. I visited Vegas for the first time about 4 years ago and while I love casinos, I wasn’t impressed with anything about Vegas except for how elaborate and beautiful the casino’s are. I would not lose any sleep if I never went back.


Different recipe for happiness for everyone. No such thing as a perfect place.


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PostPosted: 10/17/17 12:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Now it's out.

MGM is the buyer, which is why I linked Hoopfeed's tweet.

what I also couldn't say is they are playing at Mandalay Bay Arena


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PostPosted: 10/17/17 12:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Now it's out.

MGM is the buyer, which is why I linked Hoopfeed's tweet.

what I also couldn't say is they are playing at Mandalay Bay Arena


I think this could be a really big, positive deal for the W.



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PostPosted: 10/17/17 12:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Now it's out.

MGM is the buyer, which is why I linked Hoopfeed's tweet.

what I also couldn't say is they are playing at Mandalay Bay Arena


Why couldn't you say it? Just curious.
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PostPosted: 10/17/17 1:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://www.wnba.com/news/wnba-team-las-vegas-san-antonio-stars-relocation/

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“We are thrilled to bring the first major professional basketball team to Las Vegas,” said Borders. “This city and MGM Resorts are synonymous with world-class entertainment. With its culture of diversity and inclusion, MGM Resorts is an ideal fit for the WNBA.”



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PostPosted: 10/17/17 1:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Per the AP:

The WNBA says the San Antonio Stars are being bought by MGM Resorts International and moving to Las Vegas, joining the NFL and NHL with teams tied to the gambling mecca.

The Stars will begin play next season with home games at the Mandalay Bay Events Center. MGM, an owner of about a dozen casinos on the Las Vegas Strip, has hired Bill Laimbeer as the team's president of basketball operations and coach.


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PostPosted: 10/17/17 1:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I see the seating capacity of 12,000 in several places. Does anyone know if that will be the same for a basketball game?


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PostPosted: 10/17/17 2:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GlennMacGrady wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Now it's out.

MGM is the buyer, which is why I linked Hoopfeed's tweet.

what I also couldn't say is they are playing at Mandalay Bay Arena


Why couldn't you say it? Just curious.



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PostPosted: 10/17/17 3:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think the NBA will also use this as a test for a franchise. If a WNBA team draws 7-8k, an NBA team should stand to draw 15-16k.



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PostPosted: 10/17/17 4:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Most people go to Las Vegas to gamble in the casinos, take in the night club entertainment, attend major boxing/UFC matches or get married/divorced. Besides the locals, I don't really see many visitors to Las Vegas attending a WNBA game, unless it's people like us who happen to be visiting Las Vegas or people who have lost all their money and given free tickets.

However, MGM can afford the loss in revenues although, so could have the San Antonio group.

Just saying...


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PostPosted: 10/17/17 5:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Agreed it would have been better for the Spurs org. to commit to this young team and build around them and bring back the fans. Las Vegas & Joe Lacob(San Francisco) should have had expansion teams awarded for 2019.



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PostPosted: 10/17/17 7:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

josephkramer44 wrote:
I see the seating capacity of 12,000 in several places. Does anyone know if that will be the same for a basketball game?


Don't know. They should break it down - basketball, music concert, fight. The highest tickets sold reported for a UFC MMA fight in that arena is 9,764. I am also curious about what the lower bowl holds as they will probably have the upper covered in black curtains like the other teams.




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PostPosted: 10/17/17 7:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Will there be a farewell sendoff party for the San Antonio Stars fans, just like the old Utah Starzz did before they moved to San Antonio?

If I recall, there was a similar one when the Detroit Shock left for Tulsa.

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From an old 2002 article in USA Today:
https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/wnba/2002-12-23-flux_x.htm

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After the Starzz announced their move to San Antonio, players held a goodbye party for their fans and signed autographs. In a letter on the team's Web site, Jennifer Azzi said she became misty-eyed when she saw an 83-year-old season-ticket holder at the farewell celebration.

"I imagined all the things that maybe she and other women wanted to do and never got a chance," Azzi wrote.



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PostPosted: 10/17/17 7:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

StevenHW wrote:
Will there be a farewell sendoff party for the San Antonio Stars fans, just like the old Utah Starzz did before they moved to San Antonio?


Unfortunately, the timing of SS&E meant that most of the players are overseas now. I also get the impression that they had not been very thoughtful towards the fans for the past couple of seasons so I have a hard time believing they will be now.


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PostPosted: 10/17/17 8:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I feel terrible for the fans. I know I’d be devastated if the Libs moved. A sentiment shared by lots of Stars fans on Facebook.



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PostPosted: 10/17/17 10:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
I feel terrible for the fans. I know I’d be devastated if the Libs moved. A sentiment shared by lots of Stars fans on Facebook.


While I feel bad for the fans, there were not enough fans (or not enough paying fans) to make it so selling/moving the franchise was not a viable option.


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PostPosted: 10/18/17 12:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Stars ‘shocked, speechless, angry’ about move

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/silver_stars/article/Stars-shocked-speechless-angry-about-move-12278696.php

Quote:
Johnson, who had completed her first season, learned Thursday that Spurs Sports & Entertainment, the Stars’ parent company, was selling the team


Could someone who is a subscriber post the full story so we could all read it,


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PostPosted: 10/18/17 2:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

RavenDog wrote:
Most people go to Las Vegas to gamble in the casinos, take in the night club entertainment, attend major boxing/UFC matches or get married/divorced. Besides the locals, I don't really see many visitors to Las Vegas attending a WNBA game, unless it's people like us who happen to be visiting Las Vegas or people who have lost all their money and given free tickets.

However, MGM can afford the loss in revenues although, so could have the San Antonio group.

Just saying...


I think it will attract tourists though. My sister took a roadtrip through some big cities in America and went to a Sparks game when she was in Los Angeles. She also went to Vegas and im pretty sure she would of gone to a game there aswell if they had a team. Same for me.



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