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J-Spoon



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PostPosted: 10/13/17 9:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

good bye little guards (only kind of serious with trades below, but don't hate it.)

Plum and #13 to Seattle for #5

Jefferson to NY for Boyd and L. Allen

Vegas drafts Wilson #1 and Deshields #5

Vegas
Boyd/L. Allen
McBride/Colson
Deshields/A. Montgomery or Hamby or Coffey (2 of the 3)
Wilson/Burdick/Dos Santos
Harrison/Alexander

Seems like a Laimbeer kind of team


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PostPosted: 10/13/17 10:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
UK1996 wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Looks like Laimbeer will be the head coach and GM...

Where did you here that?


https://twitter.com/DougFeinberg/status/918987165148876800


Id been hearing Katie smith. Maybe they meant she will be NYs next head coach! Congrats either way



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PostPosted: 10/13/17 10:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

When it comes to the WNBA, franchises go where there's an owner ready to spend the money

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It has felt for a few years that Spurs Sports & Entertainment was losing interest in the Stars, who have had the worst record in the league the past three seasons, haven't reached the playoffs since 2014, and haven't posted a winning record since 2012.


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PostPosted: 10/13/17 10:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I feel for the Stars fans esp the local fans that loved going to the home games.

Congrats Vegas on getting a team hope you treat them well.


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PostPosted: 10/13/17 11:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Las Vegas Thrill!



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PostPosted: 10/13/17 11:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
I could also see it being something like

The Thrill

The Luck

The Oasis

The Gold

The Gamble

The Suite

The Chance

The Hope


I've got the Thrill on my legitimate names list as well.

But kind of surprised no one is on board with the Las Vegas Nomi Malones.

If the MGM Grand is involved it will be

The Las Vegas Grand


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PostPosted: 10/14/17 12:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shocked Sad


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PostPosted: 10/14/17 2:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
If the MGM Grand is involved it will be

The Las Vegas Grand

Then they could be the Lions (or Lionesses) after the lion that roars at the start of MGM movies.

J-Spoon wrote:
But kind of surprised no one is on board with the Las Vegas Nomi Malones.

If they were going that direction they'd surely just call them the Las Vegas Showgirls. Fewer copyright question marks. Wink



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PostPosted: 10/14/17 4:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's obviously Sheldon adelson. Twisted Evil



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IMO getting Bill as the new headcoach and GM is a sign that they are serious about this team.



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PostPosted: 10/14/17 5:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I need to win Powerball so I can bring them to Houston Wink



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PostPosted: 10/14/17 7:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Three cities that should have WNBA franchises.

http://www.excellesports.com/news/three-cities-have-wnba-franchises/

Agree on the Bay Area & Knoxville, but not Charlotte. And why not Houston & Portland first over Charlotte for a returning franchise?



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PostPosted: 10/14/17 7:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michelle89 wrote:
IMO getting Bill as the new headcoach and GM is a sign that they are serious about this team.


And, Bill wouldn't have taken the job if he didn't see the potential of the team.

Never saw this team abandonment coming... Sad


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PostPosted: 10/14/17 7:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:

Then they could be the Lions (or Lionesses) after the lion that roars at the start of MGM movies.


Thought about that too, but does that mean they have to bring in Congreaves or Leedham for the staff?



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PostPosted: 10/14/17 9:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

San Antonio All Time leaders

Games

301 Sophia Young
223 Becky Hammon
218 Jayne Appel
156 Danielle Robinson
155 Danielle Adams
154 Kayla Alexander
150 Jia Perkins
145 Ruth Riley
131 Helen Darling
128 Vickie Johnson


Points

4300 Sophia Young
3474 Becky Hammon
1863 Jia Perkins
1771 Danielle Adams
1597 Danielle Robinson
1567 Kayla McBride
1221 Marie Ferdinand
997 Vickie Johnson
922 Shannon Johnson
886 Jayne Appel


Rebounds

1807 Sophia Young
1326 Jayne Appel
659 Danielle Adams
589 Becky Hammon
588 Vickie Johnson
571 Ruth Riley
480 Kayla Alexander
448 Jia Perkins
431 Danielle Robinson
420 Adrienne Goodson


Assists

1133 Becky Hammon
769 Danielle Robinson
554 Sophia Young
418 Vickie Johnson
411 Shannon Johnson
320 Jayne Appel
304 Helen Darling
263 Jia Perkins
237 Sydney Colson
234 Moriah Jefferson


Steals

477 Sophia Young
249 Jia Perkins
244 Becky Hammon
185 Danielle Robinson
155 Marie Ferdinand
154 Shannon Johnson
137 Jayne Appel
128 Helen Darling
114 Kayla McBride
104 Vickie Johnson


Blocks

194 Jayne Appel
188 Ruth Riley
148 Margo Dydek
111 Sophia Young
96 Danielle Adams
78 Kayla Alexander
78 Katie Feenstra
49 Becky Hammon
45 Erin Perperoglou
44 Jia Perkins
44 Ann Wauters



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PostPosted: 10/14/17 10:06 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Aren't the Mandalay, MGM, and the T-Mobile all owned by MGM?


Yes they are.


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PostPosted: 10/14/17 10:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I am gonna guess the Orleans Casino is the buyer. They have had other sports teams in their arena - a minor league hockey team, arena football team and lingerie football team.


Not what I hear.


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PostPosted: 10/14/17 11:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sophia Young, best Stars draft pick ever. Even better than the #2 pick in 2007.



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PostPosted: 10/14/17 12:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Maybe Bill will keep Riley, she played for him in Detroit when they won a championship. Don't know if she has any coaching skills. Wonder what her contract with SAS was for for, maybe just one year same as VJ. The buyer must have offered Bill some big bucks and you would think there must be some other connection there as well unless Bill was letting it be known he was looking for a change. Is there a big enough fan base in Vegas to support a WNBA team in the summer with NBA summer stuff going on there at the same time?


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PostPosted: 10/14/17 12:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Sophia Young, best Stars draft pick ever. Even better than the #2 pick in 2007.

Also the biggest ........ ever. Okay taking high road here Rolling Eyes


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SDHoops wrote:
Shades wrote:
Sophia Young, best Stars draft pick ever. Even better than the #2 pick in 2007.

Also the biggest ........ ever. Okay taking high road here Rolling Eyes


Exactly. Many of us have beef with her personal opinions, but she was a talented and successful basketball player.

(if I were in the mood to be petty, I'd point out that the #2 pick in 2007 was rather instrumental in a certain trade, and also possesses a championship ring)



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Las Vegas is shown as being the 29th largest metropolitan area in the US.

That puts it ahead of Indianapolis (#34) and Hartford (using that for the Sun) (#47). And there is the tourism factor and casino factor. Smallest WNBA metro area ever was Tulsa (#55) followed by Salt Lake City (#48 ).

Hope it is a casino-with-a-small-arena deal like the Sun where they comp gamblers with free tickets, versus playing in the NBA-sized T-Mobile arena or MGM Grand arena.


Las Vegas power brokers unaware of WNBA team’s move to valley

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MGM CEO Jim Murren said in an October 2016 interview that he was pursuing an NBA team that he could move to Las Vegas to join the NHL’s Golden Knights as anchor tenants at T-Mobile.


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PostPosted: 10/14/17 7:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

San Antonio All Time coaches

161-213 Dan Hughes
14-20 Sandy Brondello
9-13 Shell Dailey
8-26 Vickie Johnson
6-16 Candi Harvey
6-18 Dee Brown



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PostPosted: 10/14/17 8:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
San Antonio All Time coaches

161-213 Dan Hughes
14-20 Sandy Brondello
9-13 Shell Dailey
8-26 Vickie Johnson
6-16 Candi Harvey
6-18 Dee Brown


A lot of losing, but only one #1 pick:
#1 2017 Kelsey Plum
#2 2016 Moriah Jefferson
#3 2014 Kayla McBride
#2 2007 traded for Becky Hammon
#4 2006 Sophia Young
#4 2005 Kendra Wecker


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PostPosted: 10/14/17 9:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm surprised a NBA franchise is divesting itself from the WNBA. That is not the greatest sign. Las Vegas should be a decent place for a franchise. Casinos will buy all the tickets and hand them out as door prizes and casino perks. As long as someone pays for the tickets it makes financial sense. However the team will need to play near the Strip for that model to work. Good luck to them!
Will this be the only shakeup this off season? Atlanta and Dallas both had disastrous seasons (the reasons why have been discussed on this forum many times) and were already operating on thin margins. They are not mentioned much, but the Chicago franchise has serious issues as well. Overhead costs and operating expenses and government taxes are all significantly higher in Illinois than in the rest of middle America, making the cost of doing business there exceptionally high. The Stars moving does help make a mockery of Borders' claims of amazing success during her tenure though. Healthy successful franchises generally speaking don't relocate.


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