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Wonder when and who they pick up now? Lots of speculation who they're picking up.
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| Posted: 06/30/18 11:47 am ::: |
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Wonder when and who they pick up now? Lots of speculation who they're picking up. |
Since half of the original rumor has come true, it gives extra credence for the remaining half of the rumor.
Of course, she would have to clear the physical. I wonder if she didn’t clear it Indianapolis.
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Wonder when and who they pick up now? Lots of speculation who they're picking up. |
Since half of the original rumor has come true, it gives extra credence for the remaining half of the rumor.
Of course, she would have to clear the physical. I wonder if she didn’t clear it Indianapolis. |
I wonder if they wait until after the 4th to sign her to a seven day contact
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| Not seeing anything official, but it kinda looks like the Lynx put Kizer on 7-days.
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| Not seeing anything official, but it kinda looks like the Lynx put Kizer on 7-days. |
Doesn't make sense if her back is in bad shape. You have to wonder if Larkins isn't healthy, or they just aren't happy with anyone else available right now?
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| Not seeing anything official, but it kinda looks like the Lynx put Kizer on 7-days. |
Doesn't make sense if her back is in bad shape. |
You assumed her back was the biggest factor.
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| You have to wonder if Larkins isn't healthy, or they just aren't happy with anyone else available right now? |
I know you love the rumors, but that’s all it was.
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| I guess they are skipping Wiggins, then (because surely the top six are Whalen, Augustus, Moore, Brunson, Fowles and Smith). Seems a little ridiculous, whatever she said or did post-Lynx career. |
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Their final 6 should be:
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| I guess they are skipping Wiggins, then (because surely the top six are Whalen, Augustus, Moore, Brunson, Fowles and Smith). Seems a little ridiculous, whatever she said or did post-Lynx career. |
Trash talk your former employer, probably won't be thought of highly.
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Depending on whether they go by seniority or total impact to the team, #1 should be either Augustus or Moore. If Reeve has editorial control, I could see it being Augustus. Reeve has always seemed to favor her. Not sure if it has to do with her fibroids or otherwise.
If Maya isn’t at least #2, there could be rioting.
I would think Whalen would be #3, but Brunson just reached the all time rebounds mark, so things could get awkward.
Brunson #4.
Gotta keep the current crew in the Top 5, so Fowles #5 since she’s only been there about 3 years.
Tip of the hat to Smith at #6. She never got us close to the promise land, and her trade left us desolate, but she was the first great Lynx player.
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It's gotta be Augustus. She stuck it out through all the years of famine to be a cornerstone for the years of plenty. She was also the main reason the Lynx won their first Championship in 2011.
Do this again in 10 years and Maya might move up to 1, but right now Augustus is the only right choice.
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| I guess they are skipping Wiggins, then (because surely the top six are Whalen, Augustus, Moore, Brunson, Fowles and Smith). Seems a little ridiculous, whatever she said or did post-Lynx career. |
Agreed. It undermines whatever credibility this list has.
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http://www.startribune.com/lynx-to-sign-forward-erlana-larkins-to-seven-day-contract/487941951/
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| Larkins last played in the WNBA in 2017, when she started 17 of 34 games for Indiana, averaging 4.9 points and 4.2 rebounds. She sustained a bone bruise in her knee while playing overseas last winter and has spent the past few months recovering. Larkins has battled ongoing knee issues for much of her career. |
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http://www.startribune.com/lynx-to-sign-forward-erlana-larkins-to-seven-day-contract/487941951/
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| Larkins last played in the WNBA in 2017, when she started 17 of 34 games for Indiana, averaging 4.9 points and 4.2 rebounds. She sustained a bone bruise in her knee while playing overseas last winter and has spent the past few months recovering. Larkins has battled ongoing knee issues for much of her career. |
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Kizer can't get in the rotation anyway. Part of the point of a 7-day for Larkins would be to see what kind of shape she's in to perform. |
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| Fowles over Brunson? What a joke. |
You could make a strong case that Brunson should be #1
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| Fowles over Brunson? What a joke. |
You could make a strong case that Brunson should be #1 |
Top 5 should've been:
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| Fowles over Brunson? What a joke. |
You could make a strong case that Brunson should be #1 |
You can make the strongest case that Maya is #1.
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| Fowles over Brunson? What a joke. |
You could make a strong case that Brunson should be #1 |
Respect to Brunson, but how can you make a case for her over Moore?
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| Fowles over Brunson? What a joke. |
You could make a strong case that Brunson should be #1 |
Top 5 should've been:
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If Whalen isn’t #3, just throw this list into the garbage bin.
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| How do Lynx fans feel about Fowles over Smith & Brunson? |
Without Fowles, Lynx don't win in 2015 and 2017. Not too upset. It's just a list.
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| How do Lynx fans feel about Fowles over Smith & Brunson? |
Without Fowles, Lynx don't win in 2015 and 2017. Not too upset. It's just a list. |
Without Brunson they don't win any of their championships
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| How do Lynx fans feel about Fowles over Smith & Brunson? |
Without Fowles, Lynx don't win in 2015 and 2017. Not too upset. It's just a list. |
Disputable and unprovable. They won their first two by luck?
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| How do Lynx fans feel about Fowles over Smith & Brunson? |
Without Fowles, Lynx don't win in 2015 and 2017. Not too upset. It's just a list. |
Without Brunson they don't win any of their championships |
Better chance than without Maya. Brunson has missed a bunch of games, especially in 2014, and the Lynx managed to stay afloat. Maya is iron woman.
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| How do Lynx fans feel about Fowles over Smith & Brunson? |
Without Fowles, Lynx don't win in 2015 and 2017. Not too upset. It's just a list. |
Without Brunson they don't win any of their championships |
Better chance than without Maya. Brunson has missed a bunch of games, especially in 2014, and the Lynx managed to stay afloat. Maya is iron woman. |
2014, that was the year they didn't make the finals. Thanks for proving my point.
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| Posted: 07/30/18 6:39 pm ::: |
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Without Fowles, Lynx don't win in 2015 and 2017. Not too upset. It's just a list. |
Without Brunson they don't win any of their championships |
I am outraged because Brunson should be ahead of Whalen, or at least not 2 spots below her!. I thought these lists are supposed to be of the top Lynx players, so being from Minnesota and playing for the Gophers shouldn't play any role! Such bias!
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Disputable and unprovable. They won their first two by luck? |
No, not provable but highly unlikely with the injuries faced by Augustus and Whalen in 2015 that they would have won without Fowles. Would they have made the finals in 2017 without MVP Fowles? Who knows.
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| Without Fowles, Lynx don't win in 2015 and 2017. Not too upset. It's just a list. |
Disputable and unprovable. They won their first two by luck? |
No, not provable but highly unlikely with the injuries faced by Augustus and Whalen in 2015 that they would have won without Fowles. Would they have made the finals in 2017 without MVP Fowles? Who knows. |
Shades is always offended at the idea that anybody could play any role in the Lynx winning titles besides Maya. The Lynx were clearly the best team in the WNBA when they won in 2011 & 2013. The Sparks never figured things out until they hired Agler, and Griner was soft as a rookie in 2013. The Lynx wouldn't have won in 2015 or beyond without Fowles. Fowles, once she figured things out, was their advantage in 2015. I didn't trust the Lynx winning in 2015 with 35-year old Ashja Jones as their starting center.
Fowles was their advantage over the Fever in 2015. The Fever's playoff run up to the Finals basically mimicked 2012. The Lynx won every game in the Finals that Fowles didn't turn the ball over like crazy or get into foul trouble.
Because of injuries to Whalen & Augustus, the Lynx wouldn't have won in 2015 without Renee Montgomery & Anna Cruz, but nobody is saying they should be ranked ahead of Maya in the top Lynx players of all time either. And obviously the Lynx wouldn't have won without Maya all those years too.
It's supposed to be an arms race anyways. Why shouldn't the Lynx have traded for Fowles for relatively cheap when the Mercury got Griner, the Sparks have Ogwumike & Parker in their frontcourt, etc?
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Without Fowles, Lynx don't win in 2015 and 2017. Not too upset. It's just a list. |
Disputable and unprovable. They won their first two by luck? |
No, not provable but highly unlikely with the injuries faced by Augustus and Whalen in 2015 that they would have won without Fowles. Would they have made the finals in 2017 without MVP Fowles? Who knows. |
2017 was a strong year for the Sparks. Having Fowles definitely helps. But I have truly not seen a player more taken for granted than Maya. There has been no player more transformative to the Lynx organization than Maya. I shouldn’t even have to go into detail.
Compare the 2015 regular season record with and without Fowles, and get back to me. I had the Trophy chalked up to the Lynx before the Fowles trade came to light. It was an easy season with Taurasi out and I think somebody else was out too (Parker half season?).
I knew this meaningless list would cause more trouble than it’s worth. It pits players against players, fans against fans, and accomplishes nothing but steer the basketball-naive to believe whatever it says. I already gave the Lynx-newb author a shot across the bow for being a complete front office shill.
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| Compare the 2015 regular season record with and without Fowles, and get back to me. I had the Trophy chalked up to the Lynx before the Fowles trade came to light. It was an easy season with Taurasi out and I think somebody else was out too (Parker half season?). |
That's not how it works—you're over-simplifying things. The Lynx's first half schedule in 2015 was much easier than their second half schedule. When they traded for Fowles, they had to adjust to learning how to play with her on the fly, and too often she'd be a turnover machine, or the Lynx would turn the ball over like crazy forcing the ball to her, until things starting clicking right as the playoffs started (and their final loss of a year was a IDGAF game, since they left Maya in Minnesota anyways). Also, Augustus missed a month with a knee surgery, came back, was rusty, and then sprained her ankle and missed the rest of the regular season, while at the same time, the Lynx traded for Montgomery, who went through an extended shooting slump until late in the season, and didn't become a major factor until the WNBA Finals.
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If Fowles is ahead of Brunson, then Maya has to be #1, or I demand a federal investigation into the logic the list-maker(s) is using!
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Augustus should be #1.
It was her team in 2011 (and yes, they could have won it that year without Maya who was arguably the 4th best player on the team that year) and this dynasty was only possible because she stuck it out when times were beyond rough
Moore should be #2, and if she continues to have success the next time the list is made it will be her at #1.
Whalen is #3. The second best PG of all time deserves that spot. Only reason she isn't #1 is because she played for the Sun for so many years. If she and Augustus switched years played with the Lynx, they would switch positions, imo.
#4 should have been Brunson. Her defense is so undervalued and her play on the boards is second to none in WNBA history.
#5 should have been Katie Smith. She was the only thing worth watching about the Lynx for years. And boy was she worth watching.
#6 should have been Fowles. Only been a few years, but 2 Championships, 2 Finals MVPs, and a league MVP is enough to be ranked this high without the years. But those lack of years mean there is no way she should have been ranked above Brunson or Smith.
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As always with these things, people's mileage varies when it comes to weighing up quality vs longevity.
I would value someone pretty highly if they had won 2 x Finals MVP awards though. That's a heck of a contribution to a franchise IMO. All the more impressive when you consider the quality of the teammates she out-played to win them.
There are good arguments for all 6 of those players really. Tough gig for Lynx fans trying to decide which awesome player to rank above the other awesome players.
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Renee Montgomery with a little Minnesota talk
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Disputable and unprovable. They won their first two by luck? |
2011 and 2013 were a younger team and against weaker opponents than they faced in 2015 and 2017. They won the finals in 2015 and 2017 in 5 games with Fowles being named the MVP of the series both times.
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| Shades wrote: |
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| How do Lynx fans feel about Fowles over Smith & Brunson? |
Without Fowles, Lynx don't win in 2015 and 2017. Not too upset. It's just a list. |
Disputable and unprovable. They won their first two by luck? |
2011 and 2013 were a younger team and against weaker opponents than they faced in 2015 and 2017. They won the finals in 2015 and 2017 in 5 games with Fowles being named the MVP of the series both times. |
The Lynx situation with Sylvia Fowles is similar to the NBA's Golden State Warriors and Kevin Durant. Both teams in this era won titles before they previously (GS had won one and lost in the finals). Both players went to the best team of their era (Durant gets way more criticism about doing this from fans and other players than Fowles does), and both of them won 2 Finals MVP.
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| Posted: 08/06/18 3:30 pm ::: |
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| Da f*ck is Whalen doing at #3!?!?! This clearly makes Augustus #2 & Moore #1.
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