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PostPosted: 02/07/18 2:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nerd2 wrote:
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Endy Miyem, born in Reims, one of the primary areas that produces...


She is an interesting get. But Minnesota still needs another guard.

If sigur3's insinuation is correct, I would be happy...



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 2:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Endy Miyem, born in Reims, one of the primary areas that produces...


She is an interesting get. But Minnesota still needs another guard.

If sigur3's insinuation is correct, I would be happy...


Sadly, I don't think it is. Lynx wanted it to be, I believe. I do think Reeve has something more planned though.


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 3:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Endy Miyem, born in Reims, one of the primary areas that produces...


She is an interesting get. But Minnesota still needs another guard.

If sigur3's insinuation is correct, I would be happy...


It's not looking as likely as it was a couple days ago. :/


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 3:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nerd2 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Endy Miyem, born in Reims, one of the primary areas that produces...


She is an interesting get. But Minnesota still needs another guard.

I agree. If they go into the season expecting Jones, Zandalasini and maybe the #12 pick to be their perimeter backups they'd just end up trawling for trades or free agent pickups weeks into the season.

For what it's worth, the veteran guard I heard as a possibility isn't the one that I believe sigur3 was hinting at (although I had to read back a bit to try to find the hint Smile ).



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 3:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The Howard move wasn't what the champagne referred to, by the way.

So you're saying there's a chance it could still be Langhorne Wink.

The Howard trade would make sense if they brought in a top quality veteran post. Double down on another Championship this year and hope for an underperforming Storm team to provide a building block for the future.


You were hoping for Langhorne? I think that’d be better short term.

With Richyyy's cryptic response to "pop the champagne" I was hoping she would be who it was referring to. Less likely now, but still some Lloyd Christmas hope going on.


I don’t get the reference.... Cristal Champagne?

The Lynx have cleared out 4 veteran bench players from a championship team, and got a new one who may or may not fit in. People think this great for the Lynx? If Reeve can score the best guard free agent out there, Shenise Johnson, then maybe there’s a little hope left. Otherwise so far I’m rating this free agency a C-, and that might be a little generous.



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 3:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mavcarter wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
If minnesota finishes better than Seattle, they can take Seattle's first round pick in exchange for their own. Betting on playoff seeding basically.


justintyme wrote:
If the Storm have a better draft pick next year than the Lynx, the Lynx can swap picks with them.


Wait, so who's right? Laughing


We are saying the same thing


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 3:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If this turns to Vivians,Nared,Or vadeeva and kalani Brown in 2019 I will be happy.

I love that Reeve doesn't want to leave the cupboard completely bare for Maya when Whay,mone, big Syl and Bekkah eventually retire.


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I don’t get the reference.... Cristal Champagne?

Yes. That was my pipe dream guess.

As long as the Lynx pick up a solid backup guard (Johnson, Cappie, Latta, etc) I would give the FA signing period a solid B (perhaps a B+ to an A-, depending on which guard and how well Jones and Zandalasini have progressed). If they flame out on a guard I would agree C to C-. Perhaps even lower since signing whatever FAs you want should not be tough for the premier team in the league.



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 3:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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If this turns to Vivians, Nared, Vadeeva


They’d probably have to use their #12 pick to get any of those players. With the signing of Zandi, Nared shouldn’t be on their radar.

blaase22 wrote:
Kalani Brown in 2019 I will be happy.


She’ll be a lottery pick. We can hope SEA crashes and burn (a little bonus to this move), but I think their moves improve their playoff position from last year.

blaase22 wrote:
I love that Reeve doesn't want to leave the cupboard completely bare for Maya when Whay,mone, big Syl and Bekkah eventually retire.


That depends on how you define empty cupboard. A bunch of new bench players you don’t know how they’ll mesh. Feeling kinda empty to me.



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 3:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Might as well cancel the entire WNBA regular season now since we all know that the WNBA Finals will now be Seattle vs. Atlanta! 😭😬


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 4:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

obviously I think they could have done better for Howard.

Of course if Seattle land in the lottery next year the trade looks a lot better.


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Might as well cancel the entire WNBA regular season now since we all know that the WNBA Finals will now be Seattle vs. Atlanta! 😭😬


Don't worry, Reeve's superior coaching will turn Zandzabar, Kizer and Jacskon-Jones into all world players. Lynx will be the WNBA champions for life.


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Randy wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Might as well cancel the entire WNBA regular season now since we all know that the WNBA Finals will now be Seattle vs. Atlanta! 😭😬


Don't worry, Reeve's superior coaching will turn Zandzabar, Kizer and Jacskon-Jones into all world players. Lynx will be the WNBA champions for life.


I'm still going to assume the Lynx are winning a title for the Dream and/or Storm, just like how the Vikings won a Super Bowl for the Eagles (and not themselves) thanks to them trading for Sam Bradford Smile


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Randy wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Might as well cancel the entire WNBA regular season now since we all know that the WNBA Finals will now be Seattle vs. Atlanta! 😭😬


Don't worry, Reeve's superior coaching will turn Zandzabar, Kizer and Jacskon-Jones into all world players. Lynx will be the WNBA champions for life.


Jackson-Jones was just a rumor.



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Randy wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Might as well cancel the entire WNBA regular season now since we all know that the WNBA Finals will now be Seattle vs. Atlanta! 😭😬


Don't worry, Reeve's superior coaching will turn Zandzabar, Kizer and Jacskon-Jones into all world players. Lynx will be the WNBA champions for life.



Kizer has done pretty good thus far without Reeve's coaching. If you are trying to imply that she was not worth signing. I beg to differ with you.


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Shades wrote:
Randy wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Might as well cancel the entire WNBA regular season now since we all know that the WNBA Finals will now be Seattle vs. Atlanta! 😭😬


Don't worry, Reeve's superior coaching will turn Zandzabar, Kizer and Jacskon-Jones into all world players. Lynx will be the WNBA champions for life.


Jackson-Jones was just a rumor.


I demand evidence that this rumor about that rumor was just a rumor! Smile


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 5:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Minnesota Lynx, reigning WNBA champion, has just signed the French international Endy Miyem (1.88m, 29 years old) has announced the American franchise on social networks.

Endy Miyem has been an essential part of the French team since the title of European Champion in 2009 and after a long adventure in Bourges she started a season at Kursk in Russia before joining Schio in Italy.

Endy should be the 12th Frenchwoman to play in WNBA and in the league's highest-rated franchise with Maya Moore, Sylvia Fowles, Lindsay Whalen and Seimone Augustus. The Lynx won the title last summer by beating the Los Angeles Sparks in the final, 3 innings to 2, and with four crowns in its history the franchise equaled the Houston Comets' record.

Mondeville's Lisa Berkani was drafted in 24th position by the Minnesota franchise in spring 2017.

The Women's World Cup will be held in Spain from September 22 to 30 at the end of the WNBA playoffs.


https://www.basketeurope.com/livenews-fr/420747/endy-miyem-signe-au-minnesota-lynx-champion-wnba-2017/

That’s one of the better translations I’ve seen from Google.



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Wiseone1 wrote:
Randy wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Might as well cancel the entire WNBA regular season now since we all know that the WNBA Finals will now be Seattle vs. Atlanta! 😭😬


Don't worry, Reeve's superior coaching will turn Zandzabar, Kizer and Jacskon-Jones into all world players. Lynx will be the WNBA champions for life.



Kizer has done pretty good thus far without Reeve's coaching. If you are trying to imply that she was not worth signing. I beg to differ with you.


Never said that or meant to imply it.


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 6:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Seatle does look improved but so do other teams like the Aces and Shock, even if the pick lands out of the lottery i don't see it falling past 7
Lots of good players next year Durr, collier, mccowan, Kalani Brown, katie lou, stevens, ogunbowale, Turner, ionescu coming out early?
lynx might get someone good!


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lynx might get someone good!

And the prospect of being able to get a young building block without having to suck for a season to get it could be huge for Minnesota when the current core finally starts to disappear. Obviously the other angle would've been hoping that Howard herself would be part of that future, but if they didn't believe that then this has the potential to be a nice way to roll that young piece over.

It must get so tedious drafting at 11 or 12 every damn year. The prospect of something like the #6 or #7 would probably be nice, never mind an actual lottery pick.



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Yes, people should feel sorry for the Lynx not having a lottery pick since 2012. Wo is us. We’re not going to have one next year either. I doubt the 6-7 pick over the 8 pick will be an earth-shattering difference. I’d rather have that 5th trophy this year instead of a bump-up of two spots in the 2019 draft.

Now if Reeve can pull off Dantas for #12 and grabs Shenise Johnson and avoids Cappie altogether, most will be forgiven.



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Yes, people should feel sorry for the Lynx not having a lottery pick since 2012. Wo is us. We’re not going to have one next year either. I doubt the 6-7 pick over the 8 pick will be an earth-shattering difference. I’d rather have that 5th trophy this year instead of a bump-up of two spots in the 2019 draft.

Now if Reeve can pull off Dantas for #12 and grabs Shenise Johnson and avoids Cappie altogether, most will be forgiven.


It's an even year deal with it lol
And why would the lynx want Dantas back?


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blaase22 wrote:
Shades wrote:
Yes, people should feel sorry for the Lynx not having a lottery pick since 2012. Wo is us. We’re not going to have one next year either. I doubt the 6-7 pick over the 8 pick will be an earth-shattering difference. I’d rather have that 5th trophy this year instead of a bump-up of two spots in the 2019 draft.

Now if Reeve can pull off Dantas for #12 and grabs Shenise Johnson and avoids Cappie altogether, most will be forgiven.


It's an even year deal with it lol
And why would the lynx want Dantas back?


I’m not superstitious like that.
The Lynx aren’t going to win #5 next year because so far they haven’t made the moves like they care about it.
Apparently you’ve forgotten how well the Lynx did with Dantas as a starter. As a backup, she’d be just marvy.



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Dantas was average and has been even moreso with atlanta, im fine with Vadeeva or bpa at 12.

If the lynx finally win it in an even year it will come down to the play of the starters , not cause they lose howard or add Dantas, they don't move the needle.


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but if they Lynx don't get a guard in the draft, who do they have? Alexis Jones & ????



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but if they Lynx don't get a guard in the draft, who do they have? Alexis Jones & ????


Perennial All-WNBA Guard, Maya Moore Smile


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I just find it hard to believe that no FAs want to go to the 4 time WNBA champs Minnesota Lynx. Something is up?



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I just find it hard to believe that no FAs want to go to the 4 time WNBA champs Minnesota Lynx. Something is up?

I am sure they are in talks with someone. If they weren't signing a guard for a significant amount there would have been no need to move Howard.



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justintyme wrote:
toad455 wrote:
I just find it hard to believe that no FAs want to go to the 4 time WNBA champs Minnesota Lynx. Something is up?

I am sure they are in talks with someone. If they weren't signing a guard for a significant amount there would have been no need to move Howard.


Or maybe reeve will trade the 12th pick for a guard again,
I hope not though, I think it's possible someone good will be there like Nurse.


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Here’s a little off topic but interesting Minnesota basketball banter. Sounds like the Timberwolves might sign Derrick Rose.



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I just find it hard to believe that no FAs want to go to the 4 time WNBA champs Minnesota Lynx. Something is up?


They're trying to convince Cappie that Minneapolis is the fashion capital of the upper Midwest. Wink



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Here’s an Osahor update

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-huskies/what-happened-to-chantel-osahor-when-wnba-cut-her-she-became-a-coach/

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late in training camp, Osahor was cut by the Lynx after injuries, first to her hamstring and then her knee, had hampered her in preseason.


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The solace is that Osahor convinced herself, if not the Lynx, that she belongs in the WNBA. She believes, in fact, that she should have made the team despite her health issue. “I think I proved, even if you ask Coach (Cheryl) Reeve, that I can play in this league,’’ she said. “I took away a lot from that experience, seeing what it takes. I know I can play in that league.”


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“I don’t want you to quote me saying no, but I don’t want you to quote me saying yes,’’ she said with a laugh when I asked if she would resume her playing career. “I take it one day at a time. I definitely miss playing, and I’m in contact with my agent. If I do play, don’t be shocked. If I don’t play, don’t be shocked.”



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Home Opener Sunday May 20 @ 4:00pm ct

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The Lynx will be the the first team along with the Liberty to play in their venerable Westchester County Center.



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I don’t understand why younger players would make more than the senior players.


That's the beauty of the Lynx and its relationship with its players. If the numbers were accurate, each of the starters appear to have taken between $2k and $5k less than a max salary. That gave them some room to take on some larger contracts in trade and to sign Zandalasini at the end of the season.

The reason I think they almost have to go with 12 is that this year they want make room for Zandalasini. They need two guards (Jones and a vet TBD). They need two posts (Kizer and Howard's replacement). Last year, their deep/developmental bench was Fagbenle and Jones. Jones will move into the rotation but signing Kizer said they didn't think Fagbenle was ready to play center. So, you have Zandalasini, the draft pick, Fagbenle as 3 developmental players, with Lisa Berkani and Endy Miyem also getting a shot. These are all young players so you would expect the Lynx to want more veteran players if they play a 9 person rotation like last year.

Shenise Johnson will not be the player they sign (trust me on this). So, who do you bring in at guard to help Jones? And, who will be that second post in the rotation?


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This has been the toughest year to predict the Lynx roster in a long time.
At this point, they could still go a zillion different directions.
Trade for Dantas? (She’s still unsigned by ATL)
Trade for Zahui? (Prominent overseas)
Trade for Banham? (Hometown fav but developing slowly)
Sign vet? (SJohnson my target. Cappie probably wants to get paid more than she’s worth)

I thought Katrina Elhotova had a good shot this year. Lynx promo were tracking her overseas stats, but she didn’t show up in the reserve list, so that’s a mystery.

Lisa Berkani might make sense to bookend with Miyem, but wouldn’t she be signed by now? Lynx are probably still figuring out their options before committing.

Haven’t heard much buzz on Anna Cruz, but at least she shows up on the reserved list.

Preliminary look
Whalen/Jones
Augustus/#12/(vet, Anna Cruz, or #17?)
Moore/Zandalasini
Brunson/Kizer/Miyem
Fowles/Fagbenle

Lisa Berkani
Anna Cruz
Katrina Elhotova
#17 (Best available or Wagner?)
#24, #36 (international picks?)



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I’m glad the Sparks signed Pondexter. Unless the Sparks decide to go with only 4 posts (big mistake), they’ll have to dispatch one of Riquna, Essence, or Sydney (who Reeve may have evaluated in Team USA camp). Essence would be a nice fit.



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Maybe Pondexter fit in the "no knucklehead" policy of Reeve's. Either way, I don't see her getting many minutes in LA. They have a good guard combo in Gray/Sims.



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I’m glad the Sparks signed Pondexter. Unless the Sparks decide to go with only 4 posts (big mistake), they’ll have to dispatch one of Riquna, Essence, or Sydney (who Reeve may have evaluated in Team USA camp). Essence would be a nice fit.


I'd guess Riguna Williams is your for the asking



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pilight wrote:
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I’m glad the Sparks signed Pondexter. Unless the Sparks decide to go with only 4 posts (big mistake), they’ll have to dispatch one of Riquna, Essence, or Sydney (who Reeve may have evaluated in Team USA camp). Essence would be a nice fit.


I'd guess Riquna Williams is your for the asking


#24 pick? You drive a hard bargain.

I don’t suppose Agler would want to help the Lynx out, but if nobody else wanted her, it’s either take the best price you can get or cut her (or whoever).

They could still move Wiese and Lavender in that Chiney trade proposal. That would make some space.



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Shades wrote:
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Shades wrote:
I’m glad the Sparks signed Pondexter. Unless the Sparks decide to go with only 4 posts (big mistake), they’ll have to dispatch one of Riquna, Essence, or Sydney (who Reeve may have evaluated in Team USA camp). Essence would be a nice fit.


I'd guess Riquna Williams is your for the asking


#24 pick? You drive a hard bargain.

I don’t suppose Agler would want to help the Lynx out, but if nobody else wanted her, it’s either take the best price you can get or cut her (or whoever).

They could still move Wiese and Lavender in that Chiney trade proposal. That would make some space.


Without doing research, can Williams fit under the cap in Minnesota?


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dtsnms wrote:
Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
Shades wrote:
I’m glad the Sparks signed Pondexter. Unless the Sparks decide to go with only 4 posts (big mistake), they’ll have to dispatch one of Riquna, Essence, or Sydney (who Reeve may have evaluated in Team USA camp). Essence would be a nice fit.


I'd guess Riquna Williams is your for the asking


#24 pick? You drive a hard bargain.

I don’t suppose Agler would want to help the Lynx out, but if nobody else wanted her, it’s either take the best price you can get or cut her (or whoever).

They could still move Wiese and Lavender in that Chiney trade proposal. That would make some space.


Without doing research, can Williams fit under the cap in Minnesota?


Yes. It depends on what Kizer signed for though as to how much is left for the draft pick and a 12th player.


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PostPosted: 02/14/18 3:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

With Cappie signed to the Sparks, the only hope Minnesota has now to have any guard depth at all would be to try and lure Ivory Latta. She’s the lone unrestricted free agent left isn’t she? As it is right now, the Lynx have NO bench. Or maybe they just plan on playing the 5 starters the entire game with Brunson getting the only sub (Kizer). Lol.

I’m sure Pondexter agreed to a salary reduction to fit into the Sparks cap. Fun thing is, LA has too many guards at this point, and Minnesota has none. If I were Agler, and if he had to trade any of his guards, i’d Make sure Minnesota is NOT involved in any of those trades. It’s doubtful Latta is signing with Washington or she’d have done so already. I’d still like her in CT though off the bench.

Or if the Lynx really want another guard, they can have their home gurl Banham for CT’s home gurl Moore.


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Gotta believe Reeve has a plan. We have NO bench right now.

@Ay Mate: As much as I love Banham, I think I'll pass on that trade Laughing



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Ay Mate wrote:
With Cappie signed to the Sparks, the only hope Minnesota has now to have any guard depth at all would be to try and lure Ivory Latta. She’s the lone unrestricted free agent left isn’t she?


Ajavon is still out there. Maybe they can lure Shoni Schmimmel off the reservation. And there's an endless of supply of Brianna Kiesel level guards.



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pilight wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
With Cappie signed to the Sparks, the only hope Minnesota has now to have any guard depth at all would be to try and lure Ivory Latta. She’s the lone unrestricted free agent left isn’t she?


Ajavon is still out there. Maybe they can lure Shoni Schmimmel off the reservation. And there's an endless of supply of Brianna Kiesel level guards.

There are also potential cuts elsewhere that might end up being better than just signing anyone they can find off the street. Washington have 13 people signed at the minute where the Lynx might benefit from whichever one they dump, for example. I don't think they need to panic just yet.



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There is also S. Murphy and A. Montgomery, both can still give you 10 minutes a game.


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Plus trades. New York seems to have a few too many guards, for example. After the Feb 1 flurry, the teams have months to get other business done.


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Shades put Prince for #12 out there

I would do it if I was NY. I think we need to mix things up, break up the Prince/Rodgers log jam at the sg spot and open up minutes for Hartley and Boyd and L. Allen by sliding Hartley to the 2 spot half the time. Also I really want to keep Rodgers and I doubt Minny trades a 1st round pick for Rodgers after letting her go for a 3rd round pick.

Minny gets the veteran guard who can score and play a few minutes at either guard spot.


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