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PostPosted: 05/17/18 4:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So the sparks cut all the way down to 11 . Did anyone see this coming ? Shocked Shocked



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 4:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Told ya they were yanking peoples chains Laughing


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What the hell?
1. We need another big. Maybe they are just doing it temporarily because of salary cap issues like they have done before, and bringing someone over mid-season. I hope so because this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I wonder if Larkins somehow ends up on the Sparks. Undersized, but serviceable.
2. No Dabovic? Hmm, I would have taken her over Wiese personally.

PG: Gray/Pondexter
SG: Sims/Williams/Wiese
SF: Beard/Carson
PF: Ogwumike/Lavender
C: Parker/Vadeeva

With Lavender being overseas, that is an even thinner front line until she gets back.
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So Dabovic, Samuelson and Shakayla all waived.


So is ATL on red alert?




They should be, but they just announced the opening day roster, so probably they would rather keep Dietrick as their end of the bench player. They did pass on ShakT 2 times already in the draft. The Aces or Fever could grab her before the Dream could anyway.



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boom*NNEKA*nneka wrote:
What the hell?
1. We need another big. Maybe they are just doing it temporarily because of salary cap issues like they have done before, and bringing someone over mid-season. I hope so because this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I wonder if Larkins somehow ends up on the Sparks. Undersized, but serviceable.
2. No Dabovic? Hmm, I would have taken her over Wiese personally.

PG: Gray/Pondexter
SG: Sims/Williams/Wiese
SF: Beard/Carson
PF: Ogwumike/Lavender
C: Parker/Vadeeva

With Lavender being overseas, that is an even thinner front line until she gets back.


yea i expected Bass to make the team. Even if just for security. We'll probably sign someone midseason like we did with Gruda last yr. Very thin at the post. Hope Maria will be in town soon. She has to be right? Who do we have as back up with Lavender still overseas? 🤔



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boom*NNEKA*nneka wrote:
What the hell?
1. We need another big. Maybe they are just doing it temporarily because of salary cap issues like they have done before, and bringing someone over mid-season. I hope so because this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I wonder if Larkins somehow ends up on the Sparks. Undersized, but serviceable.
2. No Dabovic? Hmm, I would have taken her over Wiese personally.

PG: Gray/Pondexter
SG: Sims/Williams/Wiese
SF: Beard/Carson
PF: Ogwumike/Lavender
C: Parker/Vadeeva

With Lavender being overseas, that is an even thinner front line until she gets back.


yea i expected Bass to make the team. Even if just for security. We'll probably sign someone midseason like we did with Gruda last yr. Very thin at the post. Hope Maria will be in town soon. She has to be right? Who do we have as back up with Lavender still overseas? 🤔


I read somewhere that Vadeeva is still overseas. Not sure how reliable, but if so, we are losing our home opener against Minnesota as we may only have two posts. Smh.
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Vadeeva is still overseas. So they start with 9 unless they can have an exemption to start.



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 5:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dabovic < Weise



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 5:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

For what it is worth, the WNBA Transactions page shows Maria Vadeeva as Waived. http://www.wnba.com/transactions/


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 5:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Dabovic < Weise


Lol i take Dabovic over Weise any day.



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Dabovic < Weise


Lol i take Dabovic over Weise any day.


I might have wrote that wrong lol . But I take dabovic also Laughing Laughing



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Dabovic < Weise


Lol i take Dabovic over Weise any day.


I might have wrote that wrong lol . But I take dabovic also Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 05/17/18 5:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Dabovic < Weise


Lol i take Dabovic over Weise any day.


Did Dabovic ever show up?



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Nope and she hasn't been playing much which makes me think she has some kind of injury, plus she is suspended full season.


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Quote:
Los Angeles Dabovic, Ana Suspended – Full Season
Los Angeles Lavender, Jantel Suspended – Temporary*

http://www.wnba.com/transactions/

That makes more sense. But this doesnt Shocked

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Los Angeles Vadeeva, Maria Waived



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So I guess the point of the Sparks showing Lavender as temp suspended is to show they aren’t paying her, but they don’t have the cap space to keep a replacement player.

Are the Liberty able to keep a replacement player for Vaughn?



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 5:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Vadeeva was announced as part of their 11-woman roster. Very odd.



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I thought Bass had a good chance to make the team but going by what Alger said Maria is a banger down low. Boom Nneka Nneka Larkins isnt a bad option to have as a another post.Weise over Dabo doesnt make sense Ana has more skills imo and I think they both make the same.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 5:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So they have two posts only to start with - Nneka and Parker. They're good, but not for 40 minutes/game. So...will they pick up a post to hold them over until Vadeeva or Lavender shows up? Or who pretends they can play PF?



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Vadeeva is still overseas. So they start with 9 unless they can have an exemption to start.


With any other team, I would note that there are rules about having at least 11 active players on the roster



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Odd that .com lists Vadeeva as waived.




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They changed it.


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http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=92629&start=299



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Los Angeles Anderson, Jolene Waived
Los Angeles Bass, Mistie Waived
Los Angeles Dabovic, Ana Suspended – Full Season
Los Angeles Jensen, Kaylee Waived
Los Angeles Lavender, Jantel Suspended – Temporary*
Los Angeles Samuelson, Karlie Waived
Los Angeles Thomas, Shakayla Waived
Los Angeles Vadeeva, Maria Suspended – Temporary*


Made the one bigger so Nicki Collen would notice it Wink



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Shades wrote:
http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=92629&start=299


That was a page ago. Sorry.



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Yeah, Lavender and Vadeeva are both shown as SUSPENDED - TEMPORARY, Dabovic as being SUSPENDED - FULL SEASON. So, I understand why Wiese made the cut over, say Dabovic.

That being said, still only have two posts to open the season, and only two more coming back, one who is a 19 year old rookie. Could be a rocky start to the season, but I am assuming we pick up a post down the road, just wondering who it will be. I've always liked Gruda, but Agler never plays her, so that's not worth it. My first choice would be Tolo, but I hear she is injured long term. Other options worth exploring, given all the cuts today, Dev Peters, Larkins, and Bass (even though we cut her). Fingers crossed that the SFO knows what it's doing.
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boom*NNEKA*nneka wrote:
Yeah, Lavender and Vadeeva are both shown as SUSPENDED - TEMPORARY, Dabovic as being SUSPENDED - FULL SEASON. So, I understand why Wiese made the cut over, say Dabovic.

That being said, still only have two posts to open the season, and only two more coming back, one who is a 19 year old rookie. Could be a rocky start to the season, but I am assuming we pick up a post down the road, just wondering who it will be. I've always liked Gruda, but Agler never plays her, so that's not worth it. My first choice would be Tolo, but I hear she is injured long term. Other options worth exploring, given all the cuts today, Dev Peters, Larkins, and Bass (even though we cut her). Fingers crossed that the SFO knows what it's doing.


Geez a timeclock down memory lane , Tolo & Gruda should be a thing of the past for this sparks team . Bring in some new blood , loading up on old vets from 40 years ago should not be the way to go .



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Yeah, the Sparks first game or two might be ugly having only Ogwumike & Parker inside. Beard and/or Carson will need to play the 4 10/15 mpg.



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Dabovic < Weise


Lol i take Dabovic over Weise any day.


Did Dabovic ever show up?


I think the thing that works in Weise's favor is her versatility. You may not like her handle, but she does have one and played PG in college. She's not a good defender but is a smart passer and has the size to play SG or SF. I think that experience/versatility is what keeps her on the team ahead of someone like Samuelson for example who is really only a SF.



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toad455 wrote:
Odd that .com lists Vadeeva as waived.



Once again, Cappie commits a crime against hairmanity.



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myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
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Dabovic < Weise


Lol i take Dabovic over Weise any day.


Did Dabovic ever show up?


I think the thing that works in Weise's favor is her versatility. You may not like her handle, but she does have one and played PG in college. She's not a good defender but is a smart passer and has the size to play SG or SF. I think that experience/versatility is what keeps her on the team ahead of someone like Samuelson for example who is really only a SF.


Im sure if Dabovic Showed up weise would not be there still .



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So I’m confused, why are the Sparks only going with two bigs? Is their cap that tight?


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boom*NNEKA*nneka wrote:
Yeah, Lavender and Vadeeva are both shown as SUSPENDED - TEMPORARY, Dabovic as being SUSPENDED - FULL SEASON. So, I understand why Wiese made the cut over, say Dabovic.

That being said, still only have two posts to open the season, and only two more coming back, one who is a 19 year old rookie. Could be a rocky start to the season, but I am assuming we pick up a post down the road, just wondering who it will be. I've always liked Gruda, but Agler never plays her, so that's not worth it. My first choice would be Tolo, but I hear she is injured long term. Other options worth exploring, given all the cuts today, Dev Peters, Larkins, and Bass (even though we cut her). Fingers crossed that the SFO knows what it's doing.


Geez a timeclock down memory lane , Tolo & Gruda should be a thing of the past for this sparks team . Bring in some new blood , loading up on old vets from 40 years ago should not be the way to go .


Last summer wasn't 40 years ago. It wasn't even 40 months ago. Laughing


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miller40 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
boom*NNEKA*nneka wrote:
Yeah, Lavender and Vadeeva are both shown as SUSPENDED - TEMPORARY, Dabovic as being SUSPENDED - FULL SEASON. So, I understand why Wiese made the cut over, say Dabovic.

That being said, still only have two posts to open the season, and only two more coming back, one who is a 19 year old rookie. Could be a rocky start to the season, but I am assuming we pick up a post down the road, just wondering who it will be. I've always liked Gruda, but Agler never plays her, so that's not worth it. My first choice would be Tolo, but I hear she is injured long term. Other options worth exploring, given all the cuts today, Dev Peters, Larkins, and Bass (even though we cut her). Fingers crossed that the SFO knows what it's doing.


Geez a timeclock down memory lane , Tolo & Gruda should be a thing of the past for this sparks team . Bring in some new blood , loading up on old vets from 40 years ago should not be the way to go .


Last summer wasn't 40 years ago. It wasn't even 40 months ago. Laughing


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..... you obviously did not get the point here . But cool



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WNBA 09 wrote:
miller40 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
boom*NNEKA*nneka wrote:
Yeah, Lavender and Vadeeva are both shown as SUSPENDED - TEMPORARY, Dabovic as being SUSPENDED - FULL SEASON. So, I understand why Wiese made the cut over, say Dabovic.

That being said, still only have two posts to open the season, and only two more coming back, one who is a 19 year old rookie. Could be a rocky start to the season, but I am assuming we pick up a post down the road, just wondering who it will be. I've always liked Gruda, but Agler never plays her, so that's not worth it. My first choice would be Tolo, but I hear she is injured long term. Other options worth exploring, given all the cuts today, Dev Peters, Larkins, and Bass (even though we cut her). Fingers crossed that the SFO knows what it's doing.


Geez a timeclock down memory lane , Tolo & Gruda should be a thing of the past for this sparks team . Bring in some new blood , loading up on old vets from 40 years ago should not be the way to go .


Last summer wasn't 40 years ago. It wasn't even 40 months ago. Laughing


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..... you obviously did not get the point here . But cool


No. I got your point. I just don't agree with it. But cool.


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miller40 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
miller40 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
boom*NNEKA*nneka wrote:
Yeah, Lavender and Vadeeva are both shown as SUSPENDED - TEMPORARY, Dabovic as being SUSPENDED - FULL SEASON. So, I understand why Wiese made the cut over, say Dabovic.

That being said, still only have two posts to open the season, and only two more coming back, one who is a 19 year old rookie. Could be a rocky start to the season, but I am assuming we pick up a post down the road, just wondering who it will be. I've always liked Gruda, but Agler never plays her, so that's not worth it. My first choice would be Tolo, but I hear she is injured long term. Other options worth exploring, given all the cuts today, Dev Peters, Larkins, and Bass (even though we cut her). Fingers crossed that the SFO knows what it's doing.


Geez a timeclock down memory lane , Tolo & Gruda should be a thing of the past for this sparks team . Bring in some new blood , loading up on old vets from 40 years ago should not be the way to go .


Last summer wasn't 40 years ago. It wasn't even 40 months ago. Laughing


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..... you obviously did not get the point here . But cool


No. I got your point. I just don't agree with it. But cool.


Awesome , maybe thats what you should have posted originally instead.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
miller40 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
miller40 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
boom*NNEKA*nneka wrote:
Yeah, Lavender and Vadeeva are both shown as SUSPENDED - TEMPORARY, Dabovic as being SUSPENDED - FULL SEASON. So, I understand why Wiese made the cut over, say Dabovic.

That being said, still only have two posts to open the season, and only two more coming back, one who is a 19 year old rookie. Could be a rocky start to the season, but I am assuming we pick up a post down the road, just wondering who it will be. I've always liked Gruda, but Agler never plays her, so that's not worth it. My first choice would be Tolo, but I hear she is injured long term. Other options worth exploring, given all the cuts today, Dev Peters, Larkins, and Bass (even though we cut her). Fingers crossed that the SFO knows what it's doing.


Geez a timeclock down memory lane , Tolo & Gruda should be a thing of the past for this sparks team . Bring in some new blood , loading up on old vets from 40 years ago should not be the way to go .


Last summer wasn't 40 years ago. It wasn't even 40 months ago. Laughing


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..... you obviously did not get the point here . But cool


No. I got your point. I just don't agree with it. But cool.


Awesome , maybe thats what you should have posted originally instead.


Have a great summer, WNBA 09.


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Weise is a legit 6' 1" she can play some back up stretch/finesse PF a few minutes a game maybe.


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WNBA 09 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
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Dabovic < Weise


Lol i take Dabovic over Weise any day.


Did Dabovic ever show up?


I think the thing that works in Weise's favor is her versatility. You may not like her handle, but she does have one and played PG in college. She's not a good defender but is a smart passer and has the size to play SG or SF. I think that experience/versatility is what keeps her on the team ahead of someone like Samuelson for example who is really only a SF.


Im sure if Dabovic Showed up weise would not be there still .


If they could be sure Dabo would show up every year that might be true, but I don't think it's as clear as you do. It's not like Dabo was such hot shit in her minutes on the floor last year. Also they need some continuity for when the old ladies currently playing guards retire. Plus we don't know what either of them are like in the locker room. For the end of the bench, it's often a matter of intangibles.



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So they have two posts only to start with - Nneka and Parker. They're good, but not for 40 minutes/game. So...will they pick up a post to hold them over until Vadeeva or Lavender shows up? Or who pretends they can play PF?


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WNBA 09 wrote:
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Michelle89 wrote:
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Dabovic < Weise


Lol i take Dabovic over Weise any day.


Did Dabovic ever show up?


I think the thing that works in Weise's favor is her versatility. You may not like her handle, but she does have one and played PG in college. She's not a good defender but is a smart passer and has the size to play SG or SF. I think that experience/versatility is what keeps her on the team ahead of someone like Samuelson for example who is really only a SF.


Im sure if Dabovic Showed up Wiese would not be there still .


That would probably be true because Ana sports similar versatility, playing PG, SG, & SF. Plus, she comes up with these unorthodox moves from time to time that probably drives defenders bonkers.



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mavcarter wrote:
So I’m confused, why are the Sparks only going with two bigs? Is their cap that tight?


It's probably some error, or, if they are really stressed for uninjured posts, they can file for an exemption for additional help.



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 11:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

jap wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
So I’m confused, why are the Sparks only going with two bigs? Is their cap that tight?


It's probably some error, or, if they are really stressed for uninjured posts, they can file for an exemption for additional help.



Look at it this way.... when you examine the graphic with the Sparks players, you’ll see only two players under rookie contract. The Lynx have three players under rookie contract and they still have to wait a month to add another cheap player’s prorated contract.

The Sparks should get an “exemption” because they have an expensive roster and seem to have mismanaged their post situation? Screw that!



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PostPosted: 05/18/18 5:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If Maya can play some minutes at the 4 position with barely a postgame then i think Alana Beard will do fine for 10 minutes aswell



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PostPosted: 05/18/18 11:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2776142-put-some-respect-on-candace-parkers-name

Hope Parker has an MVP season.



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PostPosted: 05/18/18 12:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Spark4Life wrote:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2776142-put-some-respect-on-candace-parkers-name

Hope Parker has an MVP season.


She didn't win the championship last season, and this is one gal who loves to win! Everyone else can go on rolling out their picks for this year's MVP, but a motivated CP3 who came within inches of capturing her second WNBA crown is the dark mare I will be riding.



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PostPosted: 05/18/18 12:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm just going to trust that Agler knows what he is doing as I don't quite agree with others who have suggested that Beard, Carson, or Wiese can play too much time at the 4 as some may have more height, but they don't have the strength/girth to bang with some of the fours. Assuming we don't have our full roster until our home opener Sunday the 27th, Agler is just going to have to run some small-ball lineups at times during the first three games in light of foul trouble and/or to give players rest. It might make for some interesting lineups as lots of different parts they could use at 1-3, including Gray, Sims, Wiese, Williams, Pondexter, Carson, and Beard, and they slide Carson and Beard down to "4" to have a small ball lineup.
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PostPosted: 05/18/18 3:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Note that the Warriors are starting no one taller than 6-7 -- which would be comparable to 6-1 or so in the women's game -- and are doing pretty well.



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PostPosted: 05/18/18 4:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
Note that the Warriors are starting no one taller than 6-7 -- which would be comparable to 6-1 or so in the women's game -- and are doing pretty well.


Also the smaller line-up from Houston just won from the smaller line-up from the Warriors. But these 2 teams consist of some big time shooters while the Sparks do not



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