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PostPosted: 10/05/17 9:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michelle89 wrote:
With the lack of talent most of those stars teams had i would guess that most of the coaches would have a losing record. Besides Becky he never had a lot of star players. Sophia Young is no Taurasi, Moore etc.


And he was the one building those teams.


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PostPosted: 10/05/17 10:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So who would have been a better choice?



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PostPosted: 10/05/17 11:26 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Don't let that Hughes anywhere near the Lottery or trading table. He's a poor judge of talent and he can't control himself (ego) when he has power and authority. He's like an addicted gambler going to the Las Vegas casinos.

Keep him in his role as educator, trainer and coach where his talents lie and he should do well.

If not, he'll fuck this team up to where they'll never be able to achieve the level of success they could rise to.



Hughes is too fascinated with the Big 12 , he makes draft picks like Kendra Wecker and expects greatness. Its like he only evaluates regional talent . Doesn't pay much attention to the national landscape of WCBB .



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PostPosted: 10/05/17 12:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
With the lack of talent most of those stars teams had i would guess that most of the coaches would have a losing record. Besides Becky he never had a lot of star players. Sophia Young is no Taurasi, Moore etc.


And he was the one building those teams.


He is not going to be the GM.

Seattle must not be doing that bad financially if they can have separate people doing the coach and GM duties.


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PostPosted: 10/05/17 12:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

the seattle storm is the worst front office of the league.

correction; the seattle storm is the dumbest front office of the league.

WTF!?



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PostPosted: 10/05/17 12:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
RavenDog wrote:
Don't let that Hughes anywhere near the Lottery or trading table. He's a poor judge of talent and he can't control himself (ego) when he has power and authority. He's like an addicted gambler going to the Las Vegas casinos.

Keep him in his role as educator, trainer and coach where his talents lie and he should do well.

If not, he'll fuck this team up to where they'll never be able to achieve the level of success they could rise to.



Hughes is too fascinated with the Big 12 , he makes draft picks like Kendra Wecker and expects greatness. Its like he only evaluates regional talent . Doesn't pay much attention to the national landscape of WCBB .


Wecker? Shocked

(old board members will get this)


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PostPosted: 10/05/17 12:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Talked to Dan this morning for a podcast. Seems really excited about just coaching, and having a team that has three stars already plus the #5 draft pick.


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PostPosted: 10/05/17 1:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't know if he'll still be doing a broadcasting role or not. Hopefully not, and that will give him a better opportunity to see what's happening nation wide on the collegiate level. When you're broadcasting in a particular conference all the time, it's natural to become somewhat psychologically attached to that conference (see Debbie Antonelli...see Mary Murphy...et al)

No matter how good you are at evaluating talent, you are bound to make some blunders along the way. IT happens.



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PostPosted: 10/05/17 2:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dan on Dishin & Swishin:

https://www.fanragsports.com/dishin-and-swishin-dan-hughes-is-seattles-new-head-coach/

Topics covered include:

– Impressions of the WNBA finals, and how to compete in the same conference as Minnesota and Los Angeles

– How to stabilize the inconsistencies and improve the Storm’s playoff seeding

– What to say to those that see him as “just another coach” instead of someone new and younger

– Building a roster for 2018 and what to expect.

– Can he catch a fish?


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PostPosted: 10/05/17 5:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mavcarter wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
tfan wrote:
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Angus24 wrote:
Maybe he just really likes coaching but doesn't like the responsibility of building a team.



I will agree with this , he has not shown he can build a team in his tenures..


2005 San Antonio 7-27
2006 San Antonio 13-21
2007 San Antonio 20-14
2008 San Antonio 24-10 (WNBA finals)



Then....

2009 San Antonio 15-19
2010 San Antonio 14-20
2011 San Antonio 18-16
2012 San Antonio 21-13
2013 San Antonio 12-22
2014 San Antonio 16-18
2015 San Antonio 8-26
2016 San Antonio 7-27


Sooooooooooo 1 Winning season in the last 8 years....and if you want to be technical its 3 out of 12 , But he sure can build a squad i guess every 4 years or so . Rolling Eyes


I don’t remember him building anything. He lucked into getting Becky Hammon and that was about it. Aside her on their rosters, I don’t remember much of anything else that was any good.


IMO, he was an above average drafter. Sophia Young, Danielle Robinson, Danielle Adams, Moriah Jefferson, and Kayla McBride were pretty good value picks.


Young. A homophobic bitch that her teammates hated and thus left the league as a result of the backlash. Robinson has turned into a bust. Adams booted from the league for smoking too many doobies and being waaaay out of shape and is now a bust. Jefferson and McBride are from the two best colleges that produce star players. He got top picks from being so bad every year. All those so called great players he built did exactly what for the franchise??


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PostPosted: 10/05/17 5:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
So who would have been a better choice?


Klop. Or keeping Agler. Seattle has turned to the worst front office in the league by a big margin.


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PostPosted: 10/05/17 6:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
So who would have been a better choice?

I think most would've generally been more excited by a name that meant nothing to them. It's not like most people could've picked Curt Miller or Amber Stocks out of a lineup, but one's become Coach of the Year and the other seemed to be working things out in the second half of her first season. Just like with draft picks, unknown theoretical potential is more exciting than proven general mediocrity.



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PostPosted: 10/05/17 7:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
ClayK wrote:
So who would have been a better choice?


Klop. Or keeping Agler. Seattle has turned to the worst front office in the league by a big margin.


Agler wasn't going to stay for the rebuild. He would have traded Loyd for an over-the-hill vet. There was no surprise here when he landed with LA.

No doubt, we miss Karen Bryant.


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PostPosted: 10/05/17 7:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bcdawg04 wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
ClayK wrote:
So who would have been a better choice?


Klop. Or keeping Agler. Seattle has turned to the worst front office in the league by a big margin.


Agler wasn't going to stay for the rebuild. He would have traded Loyd for an over-the-hill vet. There was no surprise here when he landed with LA.


The only surprise was that Seattle didn't get something back from LA in the deal



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PostPosted: 10/05/17 10:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
bcdawg04 wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
ClayK wrote:
So who would have been a better choice?


Klop. Or keeping Agler. Seattle has turned to the worst front office in the league by a big margin.


Agler wasn't going to stay for the rebuild. He would have traded Loyd for an over-the-hill vet. There was no surprise here when he landed with LA.


The only surprise was that Seattle didn't get something back from LA in the deal


Why would Seattle be entitled to anything?


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PostPosted: 10/06/17 1:42 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
pilight wrote:
bcdawg04 wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
ClayK wrote:
So who would have been a better choice?


Klop. Or keeping Agler. Seattle has turned to the worst front office in the league by a big margin.


Agler wasn't going to stay for the rebuild. He would have traded Loyd for an over-the-hill vet. There was no surprise here when he landed with LA.


The only surprise was that Seattle didn't get something back from LA in the deal


Why would Seattle be entitled to anything?


I think it was pilight's attempt at a joke.



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PostPosted: 10/06/17 2:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
With the lack of talent most of those stars teams had i would guess that most of the coaches would have a losing record. Besides Becky he never had a lot of star players. Sophia Young is no Taurasi, Moore etc.


And he was the one building those teams.


I never said that he was great at building teams. Without high draft picks its hard to build a championship contending team. You cant just pull allstars or franchise players out of a hat.



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PostPosted: 10/06/17 6:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
pilight wrote:
bcdawg04 wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
ClayK wrote:
So who would have been a better choice?


Klop. Or keeping Agler. Seattle has turned to the worst front office in the league by a big margin.


Agler wasn't going to stay for the rebuild. He would have traded Loyd for an over-the-hill vet. There was no surprise here when he landed with LA.


The only surprise was that Seattle didn't get something back from LA in the deal


Why would Seattle be entitled to anything?


Agler was under contract. They didn't have to let him go.



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Ay Mate wrote:
Young. A homophobic bitch that her teammates hated and thus left the league as a result of the backlash.


Young was a three time all star within her first four years of the league, and made all WNBA four times as well. Don't see what the homophobic comment has to do with this.

Ay Mate wrote:
Robinson has turned into a bust.


Still a three time all star, and led the league in assists in 2013. Decent value at the time she was chosen.

Ay Mate wrote:
Adams booted from the league for smoking too many doobies and being waaaay out of shape and is now a bust.


Still, at the time of the 2011 draft she was a good value pick. What any of these players are doing now has literally nothing to do with my comment.

Ay Mate wrote:
All those so called great players he built did exactly what for the franchise??


Not once did I say any of those players were great. I said they were good value picks.



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PostPosted: 10/06/17 9:41 am    ::: KML Reply Reply with quote

My only concern is whether Kaleena will get more playing time.
I don't understand how the NCAA all time leading three point shooter is riding the bench.

I thought it was something going on between her and the old coach but who knows.

I would love to see her knocking down 3's, Loyd creating and scoring and Stewart doing what she does.

Hell Dan see if you can pick up Jefferson. She is coming off of injury and SAS seems hell bent on the Plum experiment. She could be a cheap yet fruitful pick up


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YlwJckt999 wrote:
My only concern is whether Kaleena will get more playing time.
I don't understand how the NCAA all time leading three point shooter is riding the bench.



Good point. She should be a star like Laurie Koehn was.


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YlwJckt999 wrote:
My only concern is whether Kaleena will get more playing time.
I don't understand how the NCAA all time leading three point shooter is riding the bench.



To be brutally honest, an out of shape one-trick pony simply doesn't get much time on the floor in the W.



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PostPosted: 10/06/17 12:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
So who would have been a better choice?

I might have taken a gamble with James Wade out of Minnesota. His work with Fowles was huge in her development to the elite level this year (according to her), and has now coached under both Hughes and Reeve, with the full championship experience in Minny. With a young, potentially elite player in Stewie, it might have been a great fit. Plus the whole, young, new, and exciting thing that excites fan bases.

All that said, I don't hate the Hughes pick. It's just that you pretty much know what you are going to get. Perhaps that is enough for Seattle to take the next step with the young players he can develop.



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YlwJckt999 wrote:
My only concern is whether Kaleena will get more playing time.
I don't understand how the NCAA all time leading three point shooter is riding the bench.


she was playing in a very good team with many talented players around her at that level.



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PostPosted: 10/06/17 3:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

They won a championship with Agler, but his style of riding the starters did them no favors this year. Would have liked to have seen Wiese shooting 3's all year - and in the finals. But in the end, Minnesota does have 4 Olympians and Brunson.




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