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PostPosted: 09/26/17 1:06 pm    ::: All Rookie Team Reply Reply with quote

http://www.wnba.com/news/allisha-gray-headlines-2017-all-rookie-team/

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2017 WNBA ALL-ROOKIE TEAM
Allisha Gray (Dallas Wings)
Kelsey Plum (San Antonio Stars)
Brittney Sykes (Atlanta Dream)
Kaela Davis (Dallas Wings)
Shatori Walker-Kimbrough (Washington Mystics)



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 1:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

No Yvonne Turner? Booooooooo

Seriously though, rough year for this honor. Not many good options for that 5th spot.



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 1:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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No Yvonne Turner? Booooooooo

Voting tends to lean against 'veteran' rookies in these things if it's close enough for debate, which would've counted against both her and Whitcomb. After the first two or three it was a pretty weak bunch to choose from.

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Not many good options for that 5th spot.

I think that's generous to whoever you've got in fourth.



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 2:39 pm    ::: Re: All Rookie Team Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/news/allisha-gray-headlines-2017-all-rookie-team/

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2017 WNBA ALL-ROOKIE TEAM
Allisha Gray (Dallas Wings)
Kelsey Plum (San Antonio Stars)
Brittney Sykes (Atlanta Dream)
Kaela Davis (Dallas Wings)
Shatori Walker-Kimbrough (Washington Mystics)


Id remove KD , she had maybe 2 or 3 memorable games in which she really made and impact. Why SWK is on here blows my mind . Yvonne Turner most definitely should have been listed here along with Grievance For sure !



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 3:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

2017 WNBA ALL-ROOKIE TEAM

Player Team Position Votes
Allisha Gray Dallas Wings Guard 11
Kelsey Plum San Antonio Stars Guard 11
Brittney Sykes Atlanta Dream Guard 11
Kaela Davis Dallas Wings Guard 7
Shatori Walker-Kimbrough Washington Mystics Guard 7



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 4:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Not that PER is perfect, but remember 15.0 is average ...

2017 WNBA ALL-ROOKIE TEAM


Allisha Gray 16.5 (11 votes)
Kelsey Plum 9.1 (11 votes)
Brittney Sykes 17.4 (11 votes)
Kaela Davis 7.8 (7 votes)
Shatori Walker-Kimbrough 11.0 (7 votes)

Yvonne Turner 10.3

Rest of first round


Small sample size alert

Evelyn Akhator 3.2
Nia Coffey 3.1
Brionna Jones 18.6 (!? -- 16.8 and 8.8 per 36)
Sydney Wiese 9.5
Alexis Jones 7.2



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 5:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Am I the only one questioning Plum here?



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 5:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Am I the only one questioning Plum here?
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No your not , but who else did better than her minimal work ?



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 5:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Am I the only one questioning Plum here?


I don't see anyone better. SWK is more questionable than Plum.



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 5:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think the fact that SWK and Plum both started games put them here. Why Davis is here is questionable but I guess politically correct. The problem is who is more deserving. We had a lot of lesser less amongst rookies this year. I did think Turner deserved to be on the team though.



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 5:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
Am I the only one questioning Plum here?

It's not that she got on, it's that she got on UNANIMOUSLY. I think her and 2 others are beneficiaries of an extremely weak class. 3 of these wouldn't have even sniffed an ART in almost any other year.



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 5:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Davis led rookies in three-point field goal percentage (42.9) and ranked fourth in scoring (6.1 ppg) after being selected by Dallas with the 10th pick in the 2017 draft. She scored 20 points against the Phoenix in her WNBA debut on May 14 and posted a career-high 23 points against the Chicago Sky on July 16. Davis joined Gray, her college teammate at South Carolina, in helping the Wings earn the seventh seed in the WNBA Playoffs 2017 presented by Verizon.

Shatori Walker-Kimbrough, drafted with the sixth pick in 2017, helped the Mystics reach the playoffs as the sixth seed. She scored at least 13 points in three straight games from Aug. 12-18 – three of her eight starts in 2017. For the season, Walker-Kimbrough averaged 4.4 points in 12.5 minutes and ranked third among rookies in free-throw percentage (85.4).



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 6:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
Am I the only one questioning Plum here?

It just comes down to playing time and lack of alternatives. No one else played more than 12-15mpg, or scored more than 4-6ppg. Plum got on the court enough to rack up a few counting stats, so she gets in. Otherwse you're leaving her out to add a Whitcomb, Talbot, Turner or whatever. I don't think Davis did much to deserve to be there either, but I don't see any real 'snubs'.



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 6:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Queenie wrote:
Am I the only one questioning Plum here?

It's not that she got on, it's that she got on UNANIMOUSLY. I think her and 2 others are beneficiaries of an extremely weak class. 3 of these wouldn't have even sniffed an ART in almost any other year.


It's that way in many years. Few people consider making the All Rookie team to be a huge accomplishment.



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 6:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd have Whitcomb over SWK, but it's really minimal



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PostPosted: 09/26/17 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Plum was a long way from getting left off. She was a clear number 3 on this list.

Davis, Whitcomb, SWK, Turner, . . . .who cares. They're all charity cases for this award.


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PostPosted: 09/26/17 8:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Plum was a long way from getting left off. She was a clear number 3 on this list.

Davis, Whitcomb, SWK, Turner, . . . .who cares. They're all charity cases for this award.


And let's see what kind of season any of these rookies have against a stronger 2018 class.



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PostPosted: 09/27/17 9:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Why Davis is here is questionable but I guess politically correct.


Politically correct????


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PostPosted: 09/27/17 10:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Why Davis is here is questionable but I guess politically correct.


Politically correct????


if in doubt vote for the kid who's parent is well-known, played in the nba and possibly has some clout somewhere. [and whose Mom is already raising a stink on social media] Wink



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PostPosted: 09/27/17 10:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

^^^ Is that what people think "politically correct" means in 2017?



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PostPosted: 09/27/17 4:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd say the right players were named, although, like somebody said, it's really meaningless.



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PostPosted: 09/27/17 7:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm calling it Kelsey Plum or Brittany Sykes will win MIP next year.



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PostPosted: 09/27/17 10:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

UK1996 wrote:
I'm calling it Kelsey Plum or Brittany Sykes will win MIP next year.


sykes will have to average 40 to win most improved lol plum has a better chance from an average stand point than sykes lol



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PostPosted: 09/28/17 3:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sykes' counting stats are unlikely to improve next year, doubt she's in the running.


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PostPosted: 09/28/17 5:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Aladyyn wrote:
Sykes' counting stats are unlikely to improve next year, doubt she's in the running.


With Angel back she will have a good chance to win 6th player of the year though



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