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PostPosted: 09/21/17 5:17 pm    ::: Indiana Fever 2018 Reply Reply with quote

I figured the Fever gets talked about in other threads because they didn't have a thread of their own.

January/Wheeler
SJohnson/TMitchell/Gwathmey
Coleman/Pohlen
Dupree/McCall
Achonwa/Larkins

Bubbles
Hamson
Simms

The Fever have these 13 players currently on the roster.
Might Maggie Lucas return to the Fever?
How about Dev Peters? She expressed displeasure with the Fever on her release negotiations, but when doesn't she express displeasure with unpleasant things?

If they get the #1 pick, Wilson would be a good choice.
If they get the #2-#4 pick, there's a lot of ways they could go depending on who stays or goes.

Might PHX be interested in January? Bring her closer to her next job.
People talk about trading Johnson, who is arguably one of their better players.
If trading Johnson gets them Bonner, maybe I could see it. Otherwise, probably not.



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PostPosted: 09/21/17 5:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I personally believe the Fever should send Dupree somewhere else for a draft pick. If a young player comes up, send Pohlen packing. Gwathmey improved, from her rookie year. As long as Pokey is coach she and Mitchell are in a good position to be developed into good players. Pokey has a strong history of developing guards. (Vandersloot, Quigley, Faulkner) If January is a free agent let her go. The Fever have put off rebuilding long enough. They do not need Bonner or Dupree, they need young players that can be developed. The Fever need either Kelsey Mitchell or Aja Wilson to build around. To me those are the closest players to a sure fire star in the draft. I think the Fever should make it a priority to get another pick in each of the next two drafts.



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PostPosted: 09/21/17 6:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Unless a trade happens(Bonner), the Fever will add in their lottery pick and the #15 overall pick.

PG: January/Wheeler
PG: SJohnson/TMitchell/Gwathmey
SF: Coleman/lottery pick(unless it's Wilson)
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PostPosted: 09/21/17 6:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Word around Indianapolis is January is likely done. I'd like to see Indiana drop Coleman and Pohlen, maybe even Larkins if she can't get healthy (she's been playing injured multiple seasons in a row now).


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PostPosted: 09/21/17 7:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This team was bad. No player should be untouchable. I'd like to keep Johnson, but for the right offer, she could go.

They shouldn't give up anything big to get Bonner. If she wants to force her way onto the team, offer Phoenix peanuts. If that doesn't work and Dupree is unhappy about it, put Dupree on the market and see what you can get. They would both be nice pieces to have, but they aren't what we should be building with.

As for the draft, I am hoping for Mitchell. The Fever need a dynamic offensive player, and she is as good as it gets in that respect. At least make the team fun while they lose games for another year or two and collect more assets.

With big salaries like Larkins and Coleman looking completely cut-able, maybe they will have money to throw around in free agency. Would it be worth it to rent a Currie or a Langhorne for a year or two? Maybe LA won't be able to keep Lavender (is that the class that becomes UFAs?)


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PostPosted: 09/22/17 2:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If I was Indy I would develop the youth

trade Dupree to PX for #8

If I don't win the lottery draft K. Mitchell with my lottery pick, draft Billings at #8 and Vivians at #15. Move on from my older free agents and give the young guns a lot of minutes

K. Mitchell/Wheeler
T. Mitchell/Gwathmey/Lucas
S. Johnson/Vivians
M. Billings/McCall/waiver wire or free agent
Achonwa/Hanson


Be exciting and fun to watch but not try to end up in the playoffs so I get a lottery pick in 2019 where I draft my future center between Anigwe, K. Brown, B. Turner or T McGowan if she doesn't declare in 18. Build the team arounf K. Mitchell and future center pick in 19. One of or more of T. Mitchell, Billings, Hanson or Vivians will develop into a good role players to compliment the young stars. Start K. Mitchell from day 1, bring Wheeler off the bench for instant offense and to keep things exciting when K. Mitchell is on the bench.


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PostPosted: 09/22/17 11:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dupree is not going back to Phoenix. Let's just end that speculation, okay?

Maybe in a few years it would be possible.


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PostPosted: 09/22/17 1:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Dupree is not going back to Phoenix. Let's just end that speculation, okay?

Maybe in a few years it would be possible.


Could it be that Dupree would take the summer of 2018 off and live in Phoenix while Bonner played there? Or is Dupree against the city as well as the team?

If the latter, then Bonner is likely on the move, as I can't see raising infant twins alone while traveling and playing with a WNBA team. And I would think Bonner would need the money after a year off ...



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PostPosted: 09/22/17 1:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Dupree is not going back to Phoenix. Let's just end that speculation, okay?

Maybe in a few years it would be possible.


Could it be that Dupree would take the summer of 2018 off and live in Phoenix while Bonner played there? Or is Dupree against the city as well as the team?

If the latter, then Bonner is likely on the move, as I can't see raising infant twins alone while traveling and playing with a WNBA team. And I would think Bonner would need the money after a year off ...


Dupree has said she only sees herself playing a couple more seasons and she told the Indy Star she's finished playing abroad, so if she takes 2018 off she might as well retire now.

About ClayK's suggestion of one of them sitting out. In an Indy Star article it said Bonner is going to try to land on an overseas team later this WNBA off season. If it came to it and they couldn't work out being in the same WNBA city, it could be Bonner plays in the winter and Dupree plays in the summer.


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PostPosted: 09/22/17 1:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Does anyone know what the contract status is with Maggie Lucas? Do the Fever still have her rights or did the team let her go?


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PostPosted: 09/22/17 1:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

In that case still draft K. Mitchell unless you get the #1 pick

If Pokey liked T. Young this could be a landing spot for her, (this could also be a landing spot for Currie or Christmas).

K. Mitchell/E. Wheeler
T. Mitchell/Gwathmey/Lucas
S. Johnson/T. Young
Dupree/McCall/2nd round pick
Achonwa/Hanson

use your 2nd round pick on a post

And still aim for a lottery pick in 19 for one of those centers B. Turner or Anigwe would be a good fit.


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PostPosted: 09/22/17 1:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

miller40 wrote:
ClayK wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Dupree is not going back to Phoenix. Let's just end that speculation, okay?

Maybe in a few years it would be possible.


Could it be that Dupree would take the summer of 2018 off and live in Phoenix while Bonner played there? Or is Dupree against the city as well as the team?

If the latter, then Bonner is likely on the move, as I can't see raising infant twins alone while traveling and playing with a WNBA team. And I would think Bonner would need the money after a year off ...


Dupree has said she only sees herself playing a couple more seasons and she told the Indy Star she's finished playing abroad, so if she takes 2018 off she might as well retire now.

About ClayK's suggestion of one of them sitting out. In an Indy Star article it said Bonner is going to try to land on an overseas team later this WNBA off season. If it came to it and they couldn't work out being in the same WNBA city, it could be Bonner plays in the winter and Dupree plays in the summer.



I read that they both plan on being in the WNBA, and Dupree has their agent working on them being on the same team.



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PostPosted: 09/22/17 1:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Does anyone know what the contract status is with Maggie Lucas? Do the Fever still have her rights or did the team let her go?


She was cut, not suspended. No rights.



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PostPosted: 09/22/17 2:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
In that case still draft K. Mitchell unless you get the #1 pick

If Pokey liked T. Young this could be a landing spot for her, (this could also be a landing spot for Currie or Christmas).

K. Mitchell/E. Wheeler
T. Mitchell/Gwathmey/Lucas
S. Johnson/T. Young
Dupree/McCall/2nd round pick
Achonwa/Hamson

use your 2nd round pick on a post

And still aim for a lottery pick in 19 for one of those centers B. Turner or Anigwe would be a good fit.


TYoung to Indy sounds plausible, but I think she went to ATL for a reason, and if she's not retiring, I think she might play for ATL cheaper than other clubs.

KMitch is gonna be good, but the WNBA is a transition (just ask Plum, Diggins, Sloot), so with Wheeler there, starting KMitch is a little ambitious.



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PostPosted: 09/22/17 2:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
In that case still draft K. Mitchell unless you get the #1 pick

If Pokey liked T. Young this could be a landing spot for her, (this could also be a landing spot for Currie or Christmas).

K. Mitchell/E. Wheeler
T. Mitchell/Gwathmey/Lucas
S. Johnson/T. Young
Dupree/McCall/2nd round pick
Achonwa/Hamson

use your 2nd round pick on a post

And still aim for a lottery pick in 19 for one of those centers B. Turner or Anigwe would be a good fit.


TYoung to Indy sounds plausible, but I think she went to ATL for a reason, and if she's not retiring, I think she might play for ATL cheaper than other clubs.

KMitch is gonna be good, but the WNBA is a transition (just ask Plum, Diggins, Sloot), so with Wheeler there, starting KMitch is a little ambitious.


Those Love and Hip Hop relationships aren't always long lasting.

If I have the dual purpose of getting K. Mitchell the most on the job training and I'm not too concerned with winning than why not start her from day 1?

On the other hand if I want to make the playoffs I probably try to bring in a little more experience with Free agents or keep the vets I have, and see if I can get PX to do the Bonner trade. Coleman and #15 or something like that.

Wheeler/K. Mitchell
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Bonner/T. Young (or Christmas)/Gwathmey
Dupree/McCall
Larkins/Achnwa/Hanson

Something like that is most likely a playoff team.


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PostPosted: 09/22/17 2:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
In that case still draft K. Mitchell unless you get the #1 pick

If Pokey liked T. Young this could be a landing spot for her, (this could also be a landing spot for Currie or Christmas).

K. Mitchell/E. Wheeler
T. Mitchell/Gwathmey/Lucas
S. Johnson/T. Young
Dupree/McCall/2nd round pick
Achonwa/Hamson

use your 2nd round pick on a post

And still aim for a lottery pick in 19 for one of those centers B. Turner or Anigwe would be a good fit.


TYoung to Indy sounds plausible, but I think she went to ATL for a reason, and if she's not retiring, I think she might play for ATL cheaper than other clubs.

KMitch is gonna be good, but the WNBA is a transition (just ask Plum, Diggins, Sloot), so with Wheeler there, starting KMitch is a little ambitious.


She went to ATL because she was traded



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PostPosted: 09/22/17 2:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
miller40 wrote:
Does anyone know what the contract status is with Maggie Lucas? Do the Fever still have her rights or did the team let her go?


She was cut, not suspended. No rights.


Thanks, I couldn't remember what exactly happened with her.


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PostPosted: 10/01/17 7:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Does anyone know what the contract status is with Maggie Lucas? Do the Fever still have her rights or did the team let her go?

You can find her on Instagram where she puts out videos where she pretends she's working on her game, but really just wants to show off her abs Laughing Laughing Laughing



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Chatman Becomes Fever GM, Krauskopf to Run Esports Franchise

http://fever.wnba.com/news/chatman-becomes-fever-gm-krauskopf-to-run-esports-franchise/

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Due to increased responsibilities leading Pacers Sports & Entertainment’s new entry into the NBA2K League, Kelly Krauskopf, president and general manager of the Indiana Fever, will relinquish her GM role to Fever head coach Pokey Chatman.



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PostPosted: 11/28/17 4:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Chatman Becomes Fever GM, Krauskopf to Run Esports Franchise

http://fever.wnba.com/news/chatman-becomes-fever-gm-krauskopf-to-run-esports-franchise/

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Due to increased responsibilities leading Pacers Sports & Entertainment’s new entry into the NBA2K League, Kelly Krauskopf, president and general manager of the Indiana Fever, will relinquish her GM role to Fever head coach Pokey Chatman.


What?

Is this seriously a thing?


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PostPosted: 11/28/17 4:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah that reads an awful lot like the ol' "wants to spend more time with her family"

In any case, it's hard not to see them picking Mitchell at #2 now.



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PostPosted: 11/28/17 5:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Chatman Becomes Fever GM, Krauskopf to Run Esports Franchise

http://fever.wnba.com/news/chatman-becomes-fever-gm-krauskopf-to-run-esports-franchise/

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Due to increased responsibilities leading Pacers Sports & Entertainment’s new entry into the NBA2K League, Kelly Krauskopf, president and general manager of the Indiana Fever, will relinquish her GM role to Fever head coach Pokey Chatman.


What?

Is this seriously a thing?


I did a double-take at that too. For a minute I thought the D-League had changed sponsors again.



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PUmatty wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Chatman Becomes Fever GM, Krauskopf to Run Esports Franchise

http://fever.wnba.com/news/chatman-becomes-fever-gm-krauskopf-to-run-esports-franchise/

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Due to increased responsibilities leading Pacers Sports & Entertainment’s new entry into the NBA2K League, Kelly Krauskopf, president and general manager of the Indiana Fever, will relinquish her GM role to Fever head coach Pokey Chatman.


What?

Is this seriously a thing?

Yep. It's the NBA's effort to get in on the developing esports thing, which is becoming very popular and making a lot of money. Over half the teams in the NBA are entering teams in the 2K league, starting next year.

Not a great look for the WNBA though. One of the longest-tenured and most respected GMs in the league is stepping down to concentrate on putting together a bunch of videogamers to play virtual basketball.



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I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Chatman has plenty of GM experience, and Krauskopf remains the president of the Fever.



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Richyyy wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Chatman Becomes Fever GM, Krauskopf to Run Esports Franchise

http://fever.wnba.com/news/chatman-becomes-fever-gm-krauskopf-to-run-esports-franchise/

Quote:
Due to increased responsibilities leading Pacers Sports & Entertainment’s new entry into the NBA2K League, Kelly Krauskopf, president and general manager of the Indiana Fever, will relinquish her GM role to Fever head coach Pokey Chatman.


What?

Is this seriously a thing?

Yep. It's the NBA's effort to get in on the developing esports thing, which is becoming very popular and making a lot of money. Over half the teams in the NBA are entering teams in the 2K league, starting next year.

Not a great look for the WNBA though. One of the longest-tenured and most respected GMs in the league is stepping down to concentrate on putting together a bunch of videogamers to play virtual basketball.


I am trying to wrap my head around this: It makes money? Do people pay to watch people play video games?

My mind is blown.


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It's a genuinely growing phenomenon, with star players and teams, and high-profile sponsors pumping money into it. TV channels have already started to broadcast it (plus obviously the fanbase is younger and more tech-savvy so they'll happily watch via more modern methods).

Search 'esports' anywhere and you'll find all manner of articles and details.



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Richyyy wrote:
It's a genuinely growing phenomenon, with star players and teams, and high-profile sponsors pumping money into it. TV channels have already started to broadcast it (plus obviously the fanbase is younger and more tech-savvy so they'll happily watch via more modern methods).

Search 'esports' anywhere and you'll find all manner of articles and details.


I think the key is that those who grew up playing video games will appreciate those who play the games well, and be able to make sense of what's happening on the screen.

Those, like me, who only wish they grew up when video games were around, will likely find it hard to grasp what's going on.



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https://www.ibj.com/blogs/4-the-score/post/66460-roundup-esports-effort-shakes-up-pacers-exec-ranks-indy-500-trophy-going-japanese

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Fever boss dropping GM role to focus on Pacers’ esports team

Indiana Fever President Kelly Krauskopf was recently named senior vice president overseeing Pacers Sports & Entertainment’s not-yet-named esports team.

Because that job is taking up an increasing amount of her time, Krauskopf will turn over her general manager duties to Fever head coach Pokey Chatman.

Krauskopf has been the architect and primary leader of PS&E’s WNBA franchise since its first season in 2000, and has served as GM since 2003 when free agency began in the league. She remains as Fever president.

The Pacers esports team will play in the NBA’s 17-team NBA2K League, which is set to tip off in May.

The team, Krauskopf said, is set to draft a roster of five video-game players in mid-March and convene its team for training in April.

“[Pacers President] Rick Fuson and [team owner] Herb Simon—who gave me this [esports] opportunity saw that my professional experience from building and leading a franchise on the WNBA side was an asset,” Krauskopf told IBJ of her new role.

“I have been researching and learning about the industry for the past year. Meeting with stakeholders, talking with teams that are already invested in esports gave me great insight into how to prepare setting up the business. I have a tremendous amount of energy around building a franchise—particularly one in a league that is led by the NBA," Krauskopf said.

Initially, the Pacers-backed esports team will only play the basketball video game in competition. The first year will consist of a 14-game schedule and possibly some in-season tournaments.

Krauskopf told IBJ that the Pacers’ esports franchise could expand into other esports games.

“With the rapid growth projections of the industry, we are also looking at [expansion] from a long-term perspective,” she said.



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Intel and AMD continue to invest billions in cutting edge processors that are useful for basically nothing other than gaming PCs. I assure you, unless you're a hard core gamer or a professional video editor you have no need whatsoever for a PC with a $900 12 core processor, a pair of $800 video cards, and liquid cooling. Four or five thousand dollar PCs with 32 inch 4k UHD monitors. That stuff is all being designed and built for gamers. The rest of us already have way more machine than we need with a nice $500 i3 machine with integrated graphics for our word processing, spreadsheets, video collection, Instagram, Facebook and surfing the internet.

Eventually the technology will trickle down to the $79 general market processors.

There are quite a few egaming competitions already shown on TV.

How soon until the NCAA gets involved?


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How soon until the NCAA gets involved?

With all the best players taking part in competitions with monetary prizes from pretty early ages, that seems like it could get complicated.



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How soon until the NCAA gets involved?


Probably never. These guys are playing for money long before they reach college age.



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pilight wrote:
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How soon until the NCAA gets involved?


Probably never. These guys are playing for money long before they reach college age.


If the NCAA and colleges can figure out how to make money off of esports, a little thing like paying athletes won't stop them. After all, it's the way things work already ...



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I'm shocked there is going to be a draft for gamers. This clearly seems like a move by the NBA to restrain the trade and limit the opportunities for gamers. Don't see why they would go along with it, unless the NBA is going to pay them a lot more than they make now.



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I'm shocked there is going to be a draft for gamers. This clearly seems like a move by the NBA to restrain the trade and limit the opportunities for gamers. Don't see why they would go along with it, unless the NBA is going to pay them a lot more than they make now.
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I would think a hookup with the NBA would provide a legitimacy and broader fanbase and create that opportunity for a LOT more money to be made by everyone involved.

Also, I think a lot of the competitions today are shooters, not sports games, so there is probably an opportunity.


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I guess eventually there will be a gamers collective bargaining agreement. Laughing



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I am trying to wrap my head around this: It makes money? Do people pay to watch people play video games?

My mind is blown.


There's a whole online industry of people streaming play throughs of various games.

People watch people play poker on TV. It can't be any less exciting than that.



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PUmatty wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Chatman Becomes Fever GM, Krauskopf to Run Esports Franchise

http://fever.wnba.com/news/chatman-becomes-fever-gm-krauskopf-to-run-esports-franchise/

Quote:
Due to increased responsibilities leading Pacers Sports & Entertainment’s new entry into the NBA2K League, Kelly Krauskopf, president and general manager of the Indiana Fever, will relinquish her GM role to Fever head coach Pokey Chatman.


What?

Is this seriously a thing?

Yep. It's the NBA's effort to get in on the developing esports thing, which is becoming very popular and making a lot of money. Over half the teams in the NBA are entering teams in the 2K league, starting next year.

Not a great look for the WNBA though. One of the longest-tenured and most respected GMs in the league is stepping down to concentrate on putting together a bunch of videogamers to play virtual basketball.


I am trying to wrap my head around this: It makes money? Do people pay to watch people play video games?

My mind is blown.


A bunch of NBA franchises have invested into League of Legends team recently. The competition adapted a franchise model and the buy-in was a million dollars iirc. People don't need to pay to watch though, money's mostly from sponsorships and stuff.

As for the NCAA stuff, I heard Gordon Hayward had issues because of participating in minor tournaments...


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24 pts on 26 shots for your supposed #2 pick tonight in a loss. Always remember #DiamondsAreForever



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24 pts on 26 shots for your supposed #2 pick tonight in a loss. Always remember #DiamondsAreForever


Make that 28 shots and id bet 20 were 3 pt Jacks Laughing Laughing



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24 pts on 26 shots for your supposed #2 pick tonight in a loss. Always remember #DiamondsAreForever


Yes, please let Mitchell drop to #3!!



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sigur3 wrote:
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24 pts on 26 shots for your supposed #2 pick tonight in a loss. Always remember #DiamondsAreForever


Yes, please let Mitchell drop to #3!!


I Wont complain. My dream is for All teams picking before my wings to forget she exists and let diamond fall to #6 and we trade KCK & Glory for #1 and Draft Aja Also then camb*tch comes to town and fries the whole league for thinking my Wings were a joke Laughing Laughing



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It's too bad there are not two A'ja's in the Draft so Indy could have one too.



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sigur3 wrote:
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24 pts on 26 shots for your supposed #2 pick tonight in a loss. Always remember #DiamondsAreForever


Yes, please let Mitchell drop to #3!!

If, say, Wilson/Williams go 1-2, I feel like someone needs to be keeping a careful watch on sigur3 when DeShields goes at #3...



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