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PostPosted: 09/17/17 6:49 pm    ::: Washington Mystics 2018 Reply Reply with quote

After the first season of the EDD era, we might be left with more questions than answers. Our 5 best players have barely even practiced together, let alone play in games. If Thibault still wants to go with the big lineup, the starting 5 would project as this next year:

Toliver
Hill
Delle Donne
Meesseman
Thomas

This lineup looks dynamite, but presents us with a number of issues:

1) How do we get enough touches for the 4 scorers?
Delle Donne's FGA was already the lowest of her career, I doubt that she gives up any more. Toliver doesn't have much to give up, since all her shots are 3s that you don't want other players to take anyways.

2) The Cloud/TRP conundrum
These 2 players just shouldn't play together much at all. 2 perimeter players with no outside game is not something this team can get away with. Both are excellent defenders and can create shots for others, so their skillsets overlap and having one or the other on the floor doesn't change the gameplan much. So ideally you'd have one of these players in the starting lineup.

Possible solutions:

1) Meesseman is the starting C
This is actually what the Mystics started with in the first 4 games of the season. It didn't work great but I wouldn't read too much into that because of the weird circumstances. Emma is unlikely to be able to play 30 minutes as a WNBA 5, but she should be able to handle 10-15 minutes. This opens up a starting spot for TRP, but is a significant downgrade in terms of rebounding and defense.

2) One of Meesseman/Hill comes off the bench
Both players have experienced this during the season for 2-3 games and neither did particularly well. Not sure how either would be able to adapt to the role.

3) One of TRP/Cloud is traded
No.

4) Our best players learn how to play off of each other well and everyone is happy. Cloud improves her 3pt shot and now teams actually have to guard her. This is the dream scenario.


The depth chart without any roster moves or additions (Sanders, draft picks) looks something like this for next season:

Toliver/Latta/Cloud
Hill/SWK/TRP/(Cloud)
Delle Donne/TRP/Cloud
Meesseman/Delle Donne/Hawkins
Thomas/Hawkins/Meesseman

So basically it's a mess and Thibault will have to figure it out.
Thoughts?


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PostPosted: 09/17/17 8:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It can take some teams a couple of seasons to really gel in a short WNBA season. I would explore trading TRP or Cloud, but wouldn't pull the trigger unless it was worthwhile. I think possibly getting a pass first backup point guard could really help the team. Someone like Lindsay Allen backing up Toliver who can really feed the ball. Personally, I'd keep the same players and hope they really gel. If nothing is imporoved by midway through the first half of the season. Explore your options. Barring major changes to the roster, I would keep TRP in the starting lineup and assign her the toughest assignment. Hill could bring a scoring punch off the bench. Target a backup Center or SF. Will Sanders return? Will Hightower be resigned? I think Sanders might not since World's is next year.


Toliver/Cloud/Latta
TRP/Hill/SWK/Hightower?
EDD/#17 or FA
Meeseman/Hawkins
Thomas/#7/Sanders?



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PostPosted: 09/17/17 9:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hill is better suited for the sixth woman role on this team, which is what happened anyway before her injury. A lineup cannot have more than three high-usage players. Hill has value, but not enough to justify the lost touches for Meesseman or Toliver.

As far as the roster, top priority should be a more athletic center to split minutes with Thomas.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 12:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

RP wrote:
Hill is better suited for the sixth woman role on this team, which is what happened anyway before her injury. A lineup cannot have more than three high-usage players. Hill has value, but not enough to justify the lost touches for Meesseman or Toliver.

As far as the roster, top priority should be a more athletic center to split minutes with Thomas.


Suppose McCowen declares early and she and Russell are both available when the Mystics pick. Which center would you prefer?



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That plum trade that they declined was intriguing...



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PostPosted: 09/18/17 4:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

UK1996 wrote:
It can take some teams a couple of seasons to really gel in a short WNBA season. I would explore trading TRP or Cloud, but wouldn't pull the trigger unless it was worthwhile. I think possibly getting a pass first backup point guard could really help the team. Someone like Lindsay Allen backing up Toliver who can really feed the ball. Personally, I'd keep the same players and hope they really gel. If nothing is imporoved by midway through the first half of the season. Explore your options. Barring major changes to the roster, I would keep TRP in the starting lineup and assign her the toughest assignment. Hill could bring a scoring punch off the bench. Target a backup Center or SF. Will Sanders return? Will Hightower be resigned? I think Sanders might not since World's is next year.


Someone like Natasha Cloud maybe? Very Happy


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 6:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Move Emma to the bench.She can play 26-32 minutes depending on how she performs....This would be the best move for Emma and EDD....Delle donne needs more space to operate on offense.The fact that EDD went from 15.8 to 12.9 fgapg is alarming.A player of her caliber should be taking 15 shots minimum per game.Moving back to PF will also put Edd in better position to use her shot-blocking ability around the basket area.

Move T.Hill to the bench,or get her to tone down her game.There's no way in hell hill should have the 10th highest usage rate in the league.24.8 usage with a "per" of only 16.9.That's mediocre...IF washington can trade Hill plus another asset for a better option at sf/sg,that would be even better.

I'm also starting to wonder about Toliver.Can the mystics really count on Kristi to be the 2nd/3rd option.Toliver's fg% has steadily gone down over the last 5 years...49% down to 40%.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 7:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

1) EDD doesn't want to be taking a billion shots a game like Tina Charles. Her efficiency has gone WAY up in DC and having balanced scoring is how you win in this league.

2) Hill's usage rate was the lowest it's been in 3 years. Non-issue with reasonable rotations (such as Hill playing all the minutes when Delle Donne is on the bench).

3) On a healthy Mystics team, Toliver is the 4th scoring option, with pop-off potential. Her FG% drop is very easily explained:

2013: 3.8 3PA/G, 7.9 2PA/G
2015: 4.0 3PA/G, 5.5 2PA/G
2017: 6.6 3PA/G, 3.4 2PA/G


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 8:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Delle Donne missed 9 games, Emma missed 11. Hill missed 16 so just having everyone together and healthy along with a second year to build chemistry would probably improve this team a lot - 22 to 24 game winner seems possible. Of course, all those things need to happen and they probably won't.

I think the weak links are the Elena/Emma problem, and Hill at SG. Hill shots too much relative to how often they go in. I'd say the Mystics might want to shop their FRP to upgrade their SG or SF.

It seems possible that SWK or Hightower might solve the problem by pushing Hill to the bench.



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PostPosted: 09/18/17 8:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Delle Donne is going to miss games. She's missed an average of eight games per season in her career and has played over 30 in a season only once.



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PostPosted: 09/18/17 8:20 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hightower might have been a better starting option than Hill in 2012 but that's only because Tayler was still in college. In 2017 it's not even close.

SWK is years away from being as good as Hill, if she ever even gets there. Seems that the little slump Hill was in right before she got injured is really influencing people's perception of her as a player.

I'm thinking that Tayler should play more in the "point guard" spot with bench lineups, like Latta did this year.

Hill
SWK
Cloud
Meesseman
Hawkins/draft pick

That's a NASTY secondary unit.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 8:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Aladyyn wrote:
1) EDD doesn't want to be taking a billion shots a game like Tina Charles. Her efficiency has gone WAY up in DC and having balanced scoring is how you win in this league.


Lets see how many playoff series Washington wins with EDD taking 11-13 shots per game during the playoffs.

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2) Hill's usage rate was the lowest it's been in 3 years. Non-issue with reasonable rotations (such as Hill playing all the minutes when Delle Donne is on the bench).


The lowest it's been in 3 years,and still too high.Hill uses too many possessions to get her pts/asst...13.3p/2.1a with a 24.8 usage rate isn't very productive,especially when you're playing with EDD.Hayes would be a much better option

Hayes:
16.3p/2.6a/23.3u

Better production than Hill with a lower usage rate.

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3) On a healthy Mystics team, Toliver is the 4th scoring option


No,Toliver should be the 3rd option at worst on this mystics team.11.9p/3.4a with only a 19.6 usage rate.Same production as Hill while having a 20% lower usage rate.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 8:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Delle Donne took 16 shots a game during the 2017 playoffs. Non-issue.

No room on this team for Hayes' antics, even if she's the better player.

Toliver's usage is lower because she often takes herself out of the game. Hill never does.

Maybe the player who needs to shoot less is Ivory Latta with her 23.8% usage and 49.2% TS.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 9:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

1.Delle donne avg only 13 fg attempts in 3 games versus Minnesota.

2.Coach T is a respected HC.Hayes would fall in line with the rest of the team.

3.Toliver's still more productive with a markedly lower usage rate.My point isn't that Toliver should be more ball dominate,but that Hill needs to tone it down.

4.Coach T benched Latta,problem solve...or was it ? Not sure if that was the right or wrong decision.

5.If Washington stands pat(same starting lineup),an increase in wins or better team isn't guaranteed.....Dallas,Chicago,atlanta,Phoenix,and Connecticut will all have upgrades in talent in 2018.

6.Instead of Washington wasting a draft pick on a center.What they could do is trade Hill or TRP for Alexander.Then draft Nared or Brown with the #7 pick.....another option would be to sign Swords....or maybe trade for Boyette.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 9:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Did you seriously just suggest trading Tayler Hill for Kayla Alexander??


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 9:39 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Did you seriously just suggest trading Tayler Hill for Kayla Alexander??


Did you seriously suggest starting Meesseman at center ?......And I said Hill or TRP...doesn't even have to be straight up....

How bout Hill or TRP,Hawkins,and the 2019 1st rd pk for Plum & Alexandor,or for Jefferson & Alexander.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 9:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

For a video game trade, that looks somewhat reasonable.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 9:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Meesseman at center was a horrible experiment that failed in the beginning of the season. Hill off the bench would be a great asset. They need a legit back-up center and slide Hawkins over to back-up PF.

PG: Toliver/Cloud
SG: Ruffin-Pratt/Hill/Latta
SF: Delle Donne/SWK
PF: Meesseman/Hawkins
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PostPosted: 09/18/17 9:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I like Emma Meesseman, but if you're talking about trades, she's the one to move -- assuming of course you could get equal value in return, which is most likely not going to happen.

But getting a quality wing who's a significant upgrade on Tayler Hill for Meesseman would balance out the roster. Now who that would be I'm not sure, as if Hill learns to take good shots and get the ball to EDD, she could be the answer right there.

Or, Emma could go for a legit post to team with Thomas, but again who that would be I'm not sure. Not many teams have one good five, much less one to spare.



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PostPosted: 09/18/17 10:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Meesseman at center was a horrible experiment that failed in the beginning of the season. Hill off the bench would be a great asset. They need a legit back-up center and slide Hawkins over to back-up PF.

PG: Toliver/Cloud
SG: Ruffin-Pratt/Hill/Latta
SF: Delle Donne/SWK
PF: Meesseman/Hawkins
C: Thomas/draft pick


4 games after missing the whole training camp is not enough to draw that conclusion. I don't expect Emma to be able to play 30 minutes as a WNBA 5. But 10-15 depending on the situation is reasonable imo.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 10:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Who needs a young PF ?....atlanta

Messeman for Hayes ?

Although,moving Meesseman to the benxh would be my first option......then draft Nared,Brown or a center




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PostPosted: 09/18/17 10:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
I like Emma Meesseman, but if you're talking about trades, she's the one to move -- assuming of course you could get equal value in return, which is most likely not going to happen.

But getting a quality wing who's a significant upgrade on Tayler Hill for Meesseman would balance out the roster. Now who that would be I'm not sure, as if Hill learns to take good shots and get the ball to EDD, she could be the answer right there.

Or, Emma could go for a legit post to team with Thomas, but again who that would be I'm not sure. Not many teams have one good five, much less one to spare.


Let's see. We can scratch the franchise players off the list so no Maya, no Angel, no DT. I assume Loyd is not available and Seattle is not interesting in trying to figure out how to fit Emma next to Stewie. Quigley is on the wrong side of 30. The one reasonable target in this scenario would be, as zune69 has mentioned, Tiffany Hayes. I wouldn't make that 1for1 personally. I don't think going from Hill to Hayes is close to being significant enough to give up on Emma.


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PostPosted: 09/18/17 10:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Toliver(max)/Cloud(rook)
Hill(max)/Latta(high)/SWK(rook)
Delle Donne(max)/Ruffin-Pratt(high)
Meesseman(max)/Hawkins(high)/#7 pick(rook)
Thomas(high)/Sanders(high)

This roster isn't all that cheap. Some that are high could be max. I didn't refer to the "salary data base" but used my own intuition.



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PostPosted: 09/18/17 10:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Delle Donne also had a total of 5 assist this series, your not going to beat a team like Minnesota if your best player doesn't look to pass the ball. I don't think Delle Donne should be used at the 3, she's more of a Power Forward.
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Aladyyn wrote:
The one reasonable target in this scenario would be, as zune69 has mentioned, Tiffany Hayes. I wouldn't make that 1for1 personally. I don't think going from Hill to Hayes is close to being significant enough to give up on Emma.


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Why do you hate the Dream?

I think Hayes should be traded unless she signs an extension. We can't core Hayes and Her Majesty both and we know the Dream owners and fans will stick with Angel all the way to the gate of hell.



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pilight wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
The one reasonable target in this scenario would be, as zune69 has mentioned, Tiffany Hayes. I wouldn't make that 1for1 personally. I don't think going from Hill to Hayes is close to being significant enough to give up on Emma.


Would you rather have Sykes?


For Hightower? Sure. Laughing


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Aladyyn wrote:
pilight wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
The one reasonable target in this scenario would be, as zune69 has mentioned, Tiffany Hayes. I wouldn't make that 1for1 personally. I don't think going from Hill to Hayes is close to being significant enough to give up on Emma.


Would you rather have Sykes?


For Hightower? Sure. Laughing


And I thought pilight hated the Dream. For a fan of Hill this seems pretty amazing.



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Randy wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
pilight wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
The one reasonable target in this scenario would be, as zune69 has mentioned, Tiffany Hayes. I wouldn't make that 1for1 personally. I don't think going from Hill to Hayes is close to being significant enough to give up on Emma.


Would you rather have Sykes?


For Hightower? Sure. Laughing


And I thought pilight hated the Dream. For a fan of Hill this seems pretty amazing.


I have nothing against the Dream. Hill doesn't take more shots than her superior teammates and doesn't hurt the team that way.


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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Delle Donne also had a total of 5 assist this series, your not going to beat a team like Minnesota if your best player doesn't look to pass the ball. I don't think Delle Donne should be used at the 3, she's more of a Power Forward.


I agree that she's more of a power forward, but who's she going to pass to? TRP? Cloud?

Granted, she's not a great passer, but when you're maybe the best pure scorer in the game, what's the percentage play?



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Washington is in really good shape

draft Nared at #8 for back up SF

Bring Hill off the bench to add scoring to the 2nd unit, have TRP start to add defense to the first unit

Toliver/Latta
TRP/Hill/SWK
EDD/Nared
Messeman/Hawkins
K. Thomas/

#11 roster spot Sanders or a post off the waiver wire #12 roster spot Cloud or Hightower

EDD and/or Nared can give you some minutes at the PF spot against the right teams, just as Messeman and Hawkins can give you some minutes at the center spot against the right teams.


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For a video game trade, that looks somewhat reasonable.



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They ultimately managed to assemble a pretty reasonable defense with their three bigs out there together, typically switching a lot so that no one got exposed too much. And they were unfortunate that between the injuries and Meesseman's commitments with Belgium they never had much time to develop real chemistry with that big lineup offensively. The question is whether you can ever expect to beat the top teams with that lineup and that defense in the postseason. Because however much they want to fudge it, ultimately their two best players are 4s, and without a trade you're forced to work around that.



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Richyyy wrote:
They ultimately managed to assemble a pretty reasonable defense with their three bigs out there together, typically switching a lot so that no one got exposed too much. And they were unfortunate that between the injuries and Meesseman's commitments with Belgium they never had much time to develop real chemistry with that big lineup offensively. The question is whether you can ever expect to beat the top teams with that lineup and that defense in the postseason. Because however much they want to fudge it, ultimately their two best players are 4s, and without a trade you're forced to work around that.


Great post. And that big lineup will create even more problems in a multi-game postseason series because the opponent will have time to adjust and exploit the inherent weaknesses.

On the other hand, the big lineup is an advantage at the other end, so for Washington to win such a series, it basically needs to outscore the opposition. To do that, though, carrying players like TRP and Cloud, though effective in their way, will be a problem. And of course Toliver has to show up for every game ...



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Richyyy wrote:
They ultimately managed to assemble a pretty reasonable defense with their three bigs out there together, typically switching a lot so that no one got exposed too much. And they were unfortunate that between the injuries and Meesseman's commitments with Belgium they never had much time to develop real chemistry with that big lineup offensively. The question is whether you can ever expect to beat the top teams with that lineup and that defense in the postseason. Because however much they want to fudge it, ultimately their two best players are 4s, and without a trade you're forced to work around that.


Thibault wasn't forced into anything, he opted into the situation. He believes he can make it work, which obviously means he's not giving up after a season like this and trading Meesseman is still off the table.


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Can you play two finesse players together on defense like EDD and Emma? I know the Mystics wanna model themselves after the Warriors but I dont see a Draymond on this team. I think a trade for Glory might be worth it if they can get her. You need hardnose players like Brunson to help win titles in this league. I think a player like GJ could have help them on the glass in the semifinals which was one reason they lost.

How about getting DRob at pg? I think she might be a a better fit for Washington than Phx. She will be surround by shooters Hill EDD Emma Kristi and Mystics could use another player that can run the offense.


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Can you play two finesse players together on defense like EDD and Emma? I know the Mystics wanna model themselves after the Warriors but I dont see a Draymond on this team. I think a trade for Glory might be worth it if they can get her. You need hardnose players like Brunson to help win titles in this league. I think a player like GJ could have help them on the glass in the semifinals which was one reason they lost.

How about getting DRob at pg? I think she might be a a better fit for Washington than Phx. She will be surround by shooters Hill EDD Emma Kristi and Mystics could use another player that can run the offense.


1) Our Draymond is TRP, but she's a guard so that's problematic Laughing

2) Don't want Glory nowhere near this group. I also disagree that rebounding is something that needs to be improved. Krystal Thomas was statistically the 2nd best rebounder in the league this season and the reason Mystics got outrebounded in the semifinals was Minnesota hitting shots and Mystics not hitting shots.

3) Natasha Cloud can run the offense, guard 3 positions, and does shoot 3s (not very well, but does). No need for DRob.


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The Mystics can play TRP as long as the other two perimeter players are three-point threats -- which leaves out Cloud. That also assumes Toliver is motivated enough to bring it every night, or, to look at it another way, still has enough left in her game to bring it every night.

With two non-shooters, it's too easy to double EDD and keep an eye on Emma.

It appears that Latta's nice run in the league is about over, as she turns 34 Sept. 24 and her three-point percentage for the past two years is just over 31%. (Big shout-out to her, though -- carving out a WNBA career at her size, and making adjustments to her game, was not easy.)

As a team, Washington shot 31.7% from three, and that's a killer if the Mystics want to do more than just be pretty good. They need shooters (which is why they went for SWK, and there's still hope there) -- and note that Tayler Hill's career three-point percentage is just 32.8%, so expecting her to be a savior is most likely asking too much.

One of the most undervalued skills in the women's game, especially at the lower levels, is shooting. It's all about getting to the rim and that's great until the rim is protected by bigger, stronger women than you see in age-group play.



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PostPosted: 09/21/17 10:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yes to that Clay. Premium on shooters and passers too, but without shooters the floor is packed in and there are too many bully type players in the league which uglies up the game, everyone wants to watch Warrior like basketball.


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PostPosted: 09/21/17 12:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
The Mystics can play TRP as long as the other two perimeter players are three-point threats -- which leaves out Cloud. That also assumes Toliver is motivated enough to bring it every night, or, to look at it another way, still has enough left in her game to bring it every night.

With two non-shooters, it's too easy to double EDD and keep an eye on Emma.

It appears that Latta's nice run in the league is about over, as she turns 34 Sept. 24 and her three-point percentage for the past two years is just over 31%. (Big shout-out to her, though -- carving out a WNBA career at her size, and making adjustments to her game, was not easy.)

As a team, Washington shot 31.7% from three, and that's a killer if the Mystics want to do more than just be pretty good. They need shooters (which is why they went for SWK, and there's still hope there) -- and note that Tayler Hill's career three-point percentage is just 32.8%, so expecting her to be a savior is most likely asking too much.

One of the most undervalued skills in the women's game, especially at the lower levels, is shooting. It's all about getting to the rim and that's great until the rim is protected by bigger, stronger women than you see in age-group play.


No reason to leave Cloud out. TRP gets 23-24 minutes, Cloud gets 17-18 minutes, with minimal overlap.

EDD needs to be a lot more involved in PnR than she was this past season. More post touches for Emma.

Agreed about Latta, though I think she'll stay on the team for one more year just for her veteran presence and leadership.

In 2016, Meesseman, Delle Donne and Toliver were ranked 1, 3, and 4 leaguewide in 3P% for players with at least 2 attempts per game, all were above 42%. This season Emma was at 32%, Kristi 34%, and EDD shot 33% before her surgery and only got into high 30s with a hot streak after she returned (11/18 from deep). So all of these players getting back into high 30s will help a lot.


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PostPosted: 10/03/17 12:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Steve Jobs's billionaire widow 'buys MAJOR stake' in Washington D.C. company that owns the NBA's Wizards, NHL's Capitals and WNBA's Mystics

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4944686/Steve-Jobs-s-widow-buys-stake-NBA-NHL-franchises.html

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Billionaire philanthropist Laurene Powell Jobs is buying a major stake in Monumental Sports & Entertainment, a multi-billion dollar company that owns three major sports franchises in Washington D.C., as well as the city's Capital One Arena.



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PostPosted: 10/03/17 1:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wow, great news.


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PostPosted: 10/03/17 1:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nixtreefan wrote:
Wow, great news.


maybe.



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PostPosted: 10/03/17 8:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
Wow, great news.


maybe.


The only good news that could come of this is that they stay at Capital One Arena.



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PostPosted: 10/03/17 11:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
Wow, great news.


maybe.


The only good news that could come of this is that they stay at Capital One Arena.

We can only hope



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PostPosted: 10/03/17 11:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
Wow, great news.


maybe.


The only good news that could come of this is that they stay at Capital One Arena.


Why would that change?

I do think it could make it less likely that the Mystics go under, if there was any danger of that.



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PostPosted: 10/04/17 7:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Why is Sheila Johnson considered the owner of the Mystics here, but in this and other articles you read that Monumental Sports
is?


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PostPosted: 10/04/17 7:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
toad455 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
Wow, great news.


maybe.


The only good news that could come of this is that they stay at Capital One Arena.


Why would that change?

I do think it could make it less likely that the Mystics go under, if there was any danger of that.


Powell-Jobs could maybe work some magic and keep the Mystics at Capital One Arena instead of moving the team to the 4,200 seat arena in the ghetto of DC.



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PostPosted: 10/04/17 8:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
Why is Sheila Johnson considered the owner of the Mystics here, but in this and other articles you read that Monumental Sports
is?


My understanding is that Monumental owns the whole shebang. Johnson has a piece of Monumental and is the public face of ownership when it comes to the Mystics. According to their website, she's the "managing partner".



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PostPosted: 10/04/17 10:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I had a wierd dream the Styx were playing in High school gym with no bleachers and all fans were standing against the walls along the side line. There was only about 20 fans so it fit just kind of a wierd dream Embarassed



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