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PostPosted: 02/22/18 1:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Isn’t it kind of rare for Canadians to skip a whole WNBA season for national team purposes? It’s like they’re part of the USA. Their best young prospects tend to develop their skills on American college teams, and the best of those players move onto the WNBA. The jaunt to and from Canada to USA is pretty painless.

I think someone like Achonwa is smart enough to know that if she were to take off a year from the WNBA that somebody could easily step in her place and she might not ever get her spot back.



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PostPosted: 02/22/18 2:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Sucks for the Liberty. But opens the door for Ibekwe to make the team.


It's Raincock-Ekunwe's life and career and I certainly can't argue with her decision. But I wish she were back with the Liberty for 2018. I thought she was a real plus last season and would have helped even more this year. I hope that Ibekwe or our first-round draft pick can give us what Nayo did.



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PostPosted: 02/22/18 5:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Liberty have signed Jillian Alleyne to a training camp contract. If Alleyne is healthy and can put up solid numbers, maybe Zahui B just lost her job.



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PostPosted: 02/22/18 6:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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It looks like Nayo is skipping this season:

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When Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe got around to determining her summer basketball plans, Canada won out because the 26-year-old Toronto-born forward knows what a special feeling representing the country — and winning — can be.

The six-foot-two forward, who had an excellent rookie season with the New York Liberty last summer, has decided to take a year off from the WNBA to prepare to help Canada make a medal run at this summer’s world basketball championships.


https://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball/2018/02/06/canadas-senior-womens-basketball-team-begins-its-journey-toward-world-championships.html



This is bad news. she was a spark off the bench with her athleticism and speed running down the court. she was one of my fav's last year.

now i'm ok with getting Monique Billings if we can grab her in the first round with the 10th pick. get either Billings, Nared, Nurse, or Vivians and ill be happy Lib fan


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PostPosted: 02/22/18 6:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If Alleyne can play again like she did in college, she'll be a good pick-up. I still like Billings at #10 for New York.

PG: Boyd/L. Allen
SG: Prince/Rodgers/Hartley
SF: Zellous/Ibekwe
PF: Charles/Alleyne/Billings
C: Vaughn/Stokes
GONE: R. Allen/Zahui B.



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PostPosted: 02/22/18 7:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Liberty have signed Jillian Alleyne to a training camp contract. If Alleyne is healthy and can put up solid numbers, maybe Zahui B just lost her job.


I imagine Alleyne is more of a replacement for what Nayo brought than what Amanda brought.



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PostPosted: 02/22/18 7:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Isn’t it kind of rare for Canadians to skip a whole WNBA season for national team purposes? It’s like they’re part of the USA. Their best young prospects tend to develop their skills on American college teams, and the best of those players move onto the WNBA. The jaunt to and from Canada to USA is pretty painless.

I think someone like Achonwa is smart enough to know that if she were to take off a year from the WNBA that somebody could easily step in her place and she might not ever get her spot back.


It is not rare for any non-US team members to take the season off to prepare. And getting team unity is a lot more effort than just flying in on game days. Even the Lynx state that they need time to regain their chemistry when they get to training camp.


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PostPosted: 02/22/18 7:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Shades wrote:
Isn’t it kind of rare for Canadians to skip a whole WNBA season for national team purposes? It’s like they’re part of the USA. Their best young prospects tend to develop their skills on American college teams, and the best of those players move onto the WNBA. The jaunt to and from Canada to USA is pretty painless.

I think someone like Achonwa is smart enough to know that if she were to take off a year from the WNBA that somebody could easily step in her place and she might not ever get her spot back.


It is not rare for any non-US team members to take the season off to prepare. And getting team unity is a lot more effort than just flying in on game days. Even the Lynx state that they need time to regain their chemistry when they get to training camp.


The Native Born Citizens of other countries do seem to take more time off than the Citizens of Fortune when National Team duty calls. Sancho usually to take off as lyttle time as possible from her NT. So far Hayes and Morello have only missed 5 games for Mother Azerbaijan. I recall Erika taking off in the playoffs and missing half of a season for Brazil once. (Of course, my dear Izi hardley ever took time off and even quit once and got kicked off another time from her NT providing a good counter-example.)



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PostPosted: 02/22/18 8:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I just looked at Alleyne's boxscores in Spain, and I don't know what to make of them. She came off the bench in her first 3 games and didn't do much. Then, Jillian started the next six games and put up pretty good numbers. After that, she went back to the bench for 4 games and hardly played at all -- doing very little when given a chance. Now, in the last two games, Alleyne is back to being a starter and she put up big numbers. Anybody know if Jillian was injured for a while?



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Solid enough talent that it’s certainly worth a flyer. And she’s probably got quicker feet than Zahui. And the obvious rebounding element. If nothing else she will probably give somebody either a run for their money or an intense physical battle in exchange for winning a roster spot.



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PostPosted: 02/22/18 11:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't think any of these moves are really pushing the needle in terms of the overall end result for The Liberty, but it did just make training camp interesting, and competition for the last few spots just got fierce.

I am a little torn, I've rooted for Ibekwe to make a team for a while, and Alleyne has over come some injuries after being a decent prospect to get herself back into serious consideration for the league but, I also really like R. Allen and Zahui B and before these signings was hoping they were ready to take that next big step forward in their development. I can even see these signing being the match that lights the fire under them in camp because their jobs are definitely on the line, but I will be bummed for whoever doesn't make it out of the four.

So ATM it looks like it's

Zahui B vs Alleyne
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B. Allen vs Ibekwe


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I really don’t think there’s much fear there, Spooner. Smile



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PostPosted: 02/23/18 12:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Excluding Nayo, the Liberty have 9 people playing overseas right now. 7 are on teams likely bound for the playoffs, which means they're at risk of coming in late. Without training camp invitees, Day 1 in camp could potentially be just Tina, the two Allens, three draft picks, and a recovering Brittany Boyd. Not much you can do with only 7 players. Whether these camp participants are real contenders for roster spots or not, the Liberty still need warm bodies to run scrimmages. Adding Faris, Ibekwe, and Alleyne gets them to ten. I'd expect New York to sign at least another couple of players before camp starts.



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PostPosted: 02/23/18 2:42 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So here are some thoughts on others I wouldn't mind seeing in camp.

Full disclosure I got this list looking over the last few drafts and have no idea how they are doing over-seas or if they are injured. They were all players that seemed close to sticking (or even stuck for a moment) so maybe they've developed, also focused on SF as are biggest need and maybe some posts

Shayla Cooper, Whitney Knight, Briana Butler, Reshanda Gray, Lauren Mincy, Crystal Bradford (borrowed the idea from root), Nyingifa, Pop (just some names that caught my attention in the over-seas thread) and our own retreads Alston, Kai James, The Turkish player we drafted years ago Cakir and of course I'm curious if there have been any social media sightings of Shoni Schimmel that might imply an attempted return.


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PostPosted: 02/23/18 10:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Alleyne had a reputation, deserved or not I can't really say, for putting up points and rebounds numbers but not helping the team in other ways. Not a good defender, questions about basketball IQ, etc.

Of course, people grow and learn, but the up-and-down Spanish results sound like something to be concerned about.



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These training camp players are longshots, but I guess we should stilll bring in people who potentially fill a need. I would go for post players 6-5 or taller and wing players 6-0 or taller. Despite all the talk about Laimbeer loving size, he left us with a smallish team.



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These training camp players are longshots, but I guess we should stilll bring in people who potentially fill a need. I would go for post players 6-5 or taller and wing players 6-0 or taller. Despite all the talk about Laimbeer loving size, he left us with a smallish team.


Agreed.



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PostPosted: 02/24/18 7:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Odd to have a signing on a Saturday [evening], but they Liberty have signed Reshanda Gray to a training camp contract.



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Odd to have a signing on a Saturday [evening], but they Liberty have signed Reshanda Gray to a training camp contract.


Alright she was on my list above. Anyone know if she is and how well Gray is doing over-seas?

Also if we have a couple more I would give Shayla Cooper a look, she is a small forward, seemed to have some game (while a little inconsistent) and she has that Ohio State connection to Katie Smith.


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When one undersized 4 decides she's not coming, apparently you have to sign a couple more to fill that overwhelming hole.



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Between the three they've signed, I'd pick Gray over Alleyne & Ibekwe now.



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Between the three they've signed, I'd pick Gray over Alleyne & Ibekwe now.


well the P12 is well represented. Wink



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depth chart before draft

Hartley/Boyd/L. Allen
Prince/Rodgers/Faris
Zelous/B. Allen/Ibekwe
Charles/Zahui B/Gray
Stokes/Vaughn/Alleyne


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J-Spoon wrote:
depth chart before draft

Hartley/Boyd/L. Allen
Prince/Rodgers/Faris
Zelous/B. Allen/Ibekwe
Charles/Zahui B/Gray
Stokes/Vaughn/Alleyne


that's 15 in camp so far, then 3 more from the draft.

the only player i see making the team out of the recent signings is maybe Gray.


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LibFan25 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
depth chart before draft

Hartley/Boyd/L. Allen
Prince/Rodgers/Faris
Zelous/B. Allen/Ibekwe
Charles/Zahui B/Gray
Stokes/Vaughn/Alleyne


that's 15 in camp so far, then 3 more from the draft.

the only player i see making the team out of the recent signings is maybe Gray.


As Root said in an early post we'll have a bunch of player arriving late (pretty much anyone in Turkey or Russia which I think is Hartley, Prince, Zelous, Zahui B, Stokes and Vaughn) so even with the new signees and our three draft picks we can probably bring a couple more players in for the early part of camp.

I'm still thinking the 11 players from last year and the #10 pick are pretty safe but,

of our current invitees my feeling is Ibekwe could displace R. Allen

I also won't be too shocked if near or on draft day we do a two for one trade which could also open up a spot for an invitee.


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Ibekwe is a PF despite being listed at 148 lbs. Shocked She is very much a Nayo type player -- athletic, high energy, can rebound but can't shoot. Someone may displace R. Allen, but it's going to be a wing player. Faris has a better chance than Ibekwe.



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I'm still thinking the 11 players from last year and the #10 pick are pretty safe but,

I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, but that must be pretty damn rare. With all the things that can lead to roster turnover, 11 holdovers from the final day of one season to opening day of the next can't happen very often.



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Ibekwe is a PF despite being listed at 148 lbs. Shocked She is very much a Nayo type player -- athletic, high energy, can rebound but can't shoot. Someone may displace R. Allen, but it's going to be a wing player. Faris has a better chance than Ibekwe.


For some reason I thought Ibekwe played SF sometimes and had a 3 point shot, but it looks like I'm wrong, but even Laimeer was trying to convert Nayo to SF so maybe Katie might try the same with Ify. If R. Allen was dropping 3s all last season I would feel she was safe, but she was sort of a SF who didn't shoot too well either (even though she's had a 3 in the past), so I could still see Ibekwe being brought in as a SF with length, but I defer to your knowledge so if she is only a PF I think her chances are a lot smaller to make the team.

Now Faris, for some reason I see her making the team if we make a trade something like Rodgers and #10 for something or Rodgers and L. Allen for something or Prince and #10 for something. Then I could see Faris maybe getting that 12th spot as a defensive specialist bench wing.

I'm not seeing Gray or Alleyne beating out Zahui B, though I'm not 100% on that. Now if we traded Zahui B and #10 or Stokes, or Stokes and #10 for something than one of the posts we brought in will make it for sure.


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The players who get the fewest minutes are the ones most vulnerable. That would be Zahui B and R. Allen (tied with Nayo). L. Allen got a lot of PT because Boyd was hurt. There aren't enough minutes for 3 PGs, so one of those two players will likely be glued to the pine this season.

The little I've read or heard from Smith discussing the young players, at least she gave serious answers about R. Allen and Stokes. Katie said that she wants to get Bec out on the break more because she's best when running. As far as Stokes goes, Smith stuck to Laimbeer's position that Kiah needs to be in better shape. However, when asked about Zahui B, Katie sort of laughed and wondered aloud how they could keep Amanda on the court without her fouling. Based on that little bit of commentary, combined with AZB playing the fewest minutes and Laimbeer accusing her of not knowing the plays, I'd say Zahui is the most vulnerable.



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J-Spoon wrote:
I'm still thinking the 11 players from last year and the #10 pick are pretty safe but,

I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, but that must be pretty damn rare. With all the things that can lead to roster turnover, 11 holdovers from the final day of one season to opening day of the next can't happen very often.


R. Allen & Zahui B didn't nothing last season. I wouldn't say their jobs are guaranteed. And who knows, maybe Faris will challenge L. Allen for a spot. The locks are Charles, Vaughn, Stokes, Zellous, Prince, Rodgers, Boyd.



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Richyyy wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
I'm still thinking the 11 players from last year and the #10 pick are pretty safe but,

I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, but that must be pretty damn rare. With all the things that can lead to roster turnover, 11 holdovers from the final day of one season to opening day of the next can't happen very often.


R. Allen & Zahui B didn't nothing last season. I wouldn't say their jobs are guaranteed. And who knows, maybe Faris will challenge L. Allen for a spot. The locks are Charles, Vaughn, Stokes, Zellous, Prince, Rodgers, Boyd.


I agree with Toad on this one .



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Richyyy wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
I'm still thinking the 11 players from last year and the #10 pick are pretty safe but,

I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, but that must be pretty damn rare. With all the things that can lead to roster turnover, 11 holdovers from the final day of one season to opening day of the next can't happen very often.


R. Allen & Zahui B didn't nothing last season. I wouldn't say their jobs are guaranteed. And who knows, maybe Faris will challenge L. Allen for a spot. The locks are Charles, Vaughn, Stokes, Zellous, Prince, Rodgers, Boyd.


I agree with Toad on this one .


Bria Hartley appears not to exist for either of you. I'd certainly view her as a lock to make the team.



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Richyyy wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
I'm still thinking the 11 players from last year and the #10 pick are pretty safe but,

I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, but that must be pretty damn rare. With all the things that can lead to roster turnover, 11 holdovers from the final day of one season to opening day of the next can't happen very often.


R. Allen & Zahui B didn't nothing last season. I wouldn't say their jobs are guaranteed. And who knows, maybe Faris will challenge L. Allen for a spot. The locks are Charles, Vaughn, Stokes, Zellous, Prince, Rodgers, Boyd.


I agree with Toad on this one .


Bria Hartley appears not to exist for either of you. I'd certainly view her as a lock to make the team.


What did she do last season that makes her a lock ?



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Just for clarification I didn't say anyone was a lock. I said I still think that the eleven from last year and the #10 pick are "pretty safe" meaning I don't think any of the current camp signees will knock them off. It is possible someone will break through, or that the situation will change but ATM I still would put R. Allen, L. Allen and Zahui B slightly ahead of the competition for their spots. Maybe safe was too strong of a word, but I would still give them the edge.


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Tina Charles is the ONLY Lock


I’d say Hartley is probably a lock since she got signed as a restricted free agent. It’s kind of unusual for a signed RFA to get traded unless the trade is announced at the time of the signing, and probably unheard of for a RFA to get cut... although maybe Faris got cut after signing as a RFA? I wonder if pilight has some data on this sort of thing? It’d be an interesting thing to know how often a freshly signed RFA gets cut the same season. Hooper might be a good candidate to get cut.



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Hartley was way better than I expected last year, but based on her performance in Washington, my expectations were pretty low.



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Liberty update from Katie Smith

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I’d say Hartley is probably a lock since she got signed as a restricted free agent. It’s kind of unusual for a signed RFA to get traded unless the trade is announced at the time of the signing, and probably unheard of for a RFA to get cut... although maybe Faris got cut after signing as a RFA? I wonder if pilight has some data on this sort of thing? It’d be an interesting thing to know how often a freshly signed RFA gets cut the same season. Hooper might be a good candidate to get cut.


Dream signed Jasmine Thomas as an RFA, then traded her on draft day.



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I’d say Hartley is probably a lock since she got signed as a restricted free agent. It’s kind of unusual for a signed RFA to get traded unless the trade is announced at the time of the signing, and probably unheard of for a RFA to get cut... although maybe Faris got cut after signing as a RFA? I wonder if pilight has some data on this sort of thing? It’d be an interesting thing to know how often a freshly signed RFA gets cut the same season. Hooper might be a good candidate to get cut.


Dream signed Jasmine Thomas as an RFA, then traded her on draft day.

If I recall correctly, NY did the same thing with Alex Montgomery. Still, I would say it's unusual.

Listening to that podcast (thanks pilight) Katie Smith compares Ibekwe to Bec Allen, so maybe she does think of Ibekwe as a small forward. As far as I can remember, I've mostly seen Ify as a PF overseas, and maybe a little at center. That's why my comparison to Raincock. Meanwhile, I've noticed Allen playing 1,2,3 in Australia but never 4. Another glaring difference -- Ibekwe almost never shoots 3s while Allen shoots a lot of them.

Smith said some nice things about Alleyne and Gray. We'll see if they get a serious look. If NY ends up taking a post player with that 1st round pick, then the team may very well end up as the returning 11 plus a pick. I think a lot will be based on the draft because management hasn't shown any urgency so far when it comes to free agents or trades.



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PostPosted: 02/27/18 7:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

root_thing wrote:
Randy wrote:
Shades wrote:
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Tina Charles is the ONLY Lock


I’d say Hartley is probably a lock since she got signed as a restricted free agent. It’s kind of unusual for a signed RFA to get traded unless the trade is announced at the time of the signing, and probably unheard of for a RFA to get cut... although maybe Faris got cut after signing as a RFA? I wonder if pilight has some data on this sort of thing? It’d be an interesting thing to know how often a freshly signed RFA gets cut the same season. Hooper might be a good candidate to get cut.


Dream signed Jasmine Thomas as an RFA, then traded her on draft day.

If I recall correctly, NY did the same thing with Alex Montgomery. Still, I would say it's unusual.

Listening to that podcast (thanks pilight) Katie Smith compares Ibekwe to Bec Allen, so maybe she does think of Ibekwe as a small forward. As far as I can remember, I've mostly seen Ify as a PF overseas, and maybe a little at center. That's why my comparison to Raincock. Meanwhile, I've noticed Allen playing 1,2,3 in Australia but never 4. Another glaring difference -- Ibekwe almost never shoots 3s while Allen shoots a lot of them.

Smith said some nice things about Alleyne and Gray. We'll see if they get a serious look. If NY ends up taking a post player with that 1st round pick, then the team may very well end up as the returning 11 plus a pick. I think a lot will be based on the draft because management hasn't shown any urgency so far when it comes to free agents or trades.


Shout out to Smith & NY Recognizing my Wings in that video. Nice post Btw !! Looks like shes on the scout already pretty much naming alot of wings players to watch out for. #Exciting



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root_thing wrote:
Listening to that podcast (thanks pilight) Katie Smith compares Ibekwe to Bec Allen, so maybe she does think of Ibekwe as a small forward. As far as I can remember, I've mostly seen Ify as a PF overseas, and maybe a little at center. That's why my comparison to Raincock. Meanwhile, I've noticed Allen playing 1,2,3 in Australia but never 4. Another glaring difference -- Ibekwe almost never shoots 3s while Allen shoots a lot of them.

I've only really seen Ibekwe play down here. She was on a size-deficient team, and this is already (most years) a size-deficient league. So while she was mostly a 4 here I always thought of her as someone who probably needed to get a bit more 3 into her game to make it at the top level.
She attempted 1.5 threes per game down here, which is not a reluctant shooter for a PF, but only hit them at 27%



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PostPosted: 03/01/18 4:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Our Coach is at the SEC Tournament

@Coach_Blake_: Look who I found at the SEC tournament guys.. https://twitter.com/Coach_Blake_/status/969308224489959424/photo/1

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PostPosted: 03/01/18 5:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, like four days after they announced the pick-a-seat event, and three days before said event, they finally figured out a price range and a seating chart. The cheapest seats in this dump are $29. are you fucking serious?



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Just wow. $29 plus round trip metro north ticket (approx $21) plus headaches. No thank you. My torch has officially been snuffed.


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I may have asked this before but,

NY fans who know the International game as draft options go what about

Vadeeva in NY, good idea or bad idea?

What I know is she a top International prospect, she is a center which isn't our strongest position, and she plays with Prince.


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J-Spoon wrote:
I may have asked this before but,

NY fans who know the International game as draft options go what about

Vadeeva in NY, good idea or bad idea?

What I know is she a top International prospect, she is a center which isn't our strongest position, and she plays with Prince.



1) How does Katie Smith want to play? Vadeeva is arguably better offensively than any post NY has other than Charles. If you just want to add an offensive option (or button as Laimbeer used to call it), then Vadeeva can probably help. If NY is still emphasizing defense, then there are probably better choices.

2) Is Vadeeva ever coming over? If so, when? Given that management has done very little so far, the 1st Round pick may be our biggest chance at improvement. You don't want to waste that selection on someone who may never show up.

3) Who else is left on the board? We don't know if anyone is coming out early who could push the rest of the board down. And right now, there seems to be very little agreement on the order after Wilson. I think a team only takes Vadeeva if they don't think any American player can crack their rotation right now. In that case, they might as well take a foreign player and stash her overseas until ready.



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PostPosted: 03/05/18 12:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nice talk given by Katie Smith at the Liberty pick your seat day
in Westchester . She sounded excited and ready to go...took lots of Q & A's

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